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Old 02/18/2011, 03:21 pm   #1
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Okay, so 2 months or so ago, I posted a comment about how this game was going to suck for the following reasons..

A.) Point and click
B.) Linear gameplay

After getting bitched out by telltale radicals I thought, well...maybe it won't be as bad as I am thinking. And at least it's a modern, 3D BTTF game. God was I wrong. After playing the demo and watching in horror at the gameplay videos online..I totally lost all hope in getting an awesome BTTF game. And the worst part is, look at the Jurassic Park trailer. It looks awesome. It's not cartoony, and from what Ive read its NOT going to be point and click. Apparently the designer said it wouldnt feel right to walk around aimlessly solving puzzles..? So why the hell is the Back to the Future game just that?! Whats the difference between BTTF and JP? Theyre both adventure movies. So why does JP get to be an awesome adventure game and BTTF, which is probably more popular anyway, is a cartoony, restricted, puzzle game? I just don't get it.....And to those of you out there who are going to rip me to shreads about not knowing what BTTF is about or sarcasticly tell me theyre sorry that its not like GTA, this time I know I am right that BTTF did not get the game it deserved.

So anyone out there who agrees with me, share your story. And if you disagree with me, please tell me why I should like the BTTF game.

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Old 02/18/2011, 04:00 pm   #2
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Fine then. What would YOU suggest for BTTF?
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Old 02/18/2011, 04:02 pm   #3
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BTTF is similar to any other adventure game Telltale have made.
Telltale's games have always been about the storytelling, which is a reason to give this game a shot if you are a BTTF fan.
There is nothing anybody can say to you which will make you like this genre of game though.. it is not for everybody.
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Old 02/18/2011, 04:28 pm   #4
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I think a point and click adventure game is the PERFECT genre for a Back to the Future game, I've always thought this right back to when the movies were actually new. My only gripe is that the puzzles are way too easy.

Maybe they could've given us something with more realistic graphics and made it similar to something like Fahrenheit or Heavy Rain in terms of gameplay but seriously, it's Back to the Future. It's never going to be a 3rd person shooter or an FPS is it?
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Old 02/18/2011, 04:34 pm   #5
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I think a point and click adventure game is the PERFECT genre for a Back to the Future game, I've always thought this right back to when the movies were actually new. My only gripe is that the puzzles are way too easy.
I agree. It's not the style of graphics or genre that suck, it's the brainless puzzles.
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Old 02/18/2011, 07:08 pm   #7
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For one thing, an action-y game does not work for Back to the Future. I would've thought that the NES and Sega Genesis games would have beaten that into peoples' heads by now. Back to the Future isn't about the action, the chases, or(don't flame me) even the time travel. It's about storytelling. If you play a GOOD Back to the Future game, you shouldn't expect a ton of exciting battles, explosions, and 15 trips through time per episode. You SHOULD expect a good story that brings back the characters you know and love, put them in a new paradox-possible environment, and let the story tell itself.
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Old 02/18/2011, 07:21 pm   #8
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While I am enjoying the storyline, the gameplay so far in episodes 1+2 is way too simplistic. I wouldn't consider it a "puzzle" game when the solution to a goal is achieved by clicking one of the very few selectable items on screen.

I like the use of the point-and-click style game, however I do have to admit that I think Telltale have put more effort into the story rather than the game itself. It almost feels like they've made an animated movie and decided to add in a few light interactions to keep the story rolling.
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Old 02/18/2011, 08:15 pm   #9
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I have not yet played the game, but I do plan on buying it. In general OP I strongly agree, although it is possible that I will like the game better than you.

The people who insist BTTF needs to be an adventure game are clearly wrong, but we're not going to ever convince them otherwise (unless maybe one comes out in the future). In a proper BTTF game there HAS to be action sequence DeLorean chases, hoverboard escapes, skateboarding, etc. This isn't debatable.

It's also really annoying when my fellow adventure gamers harp so hard on "story" and "characters" and how adventure games are the only genre that has them to any great extent. That is completely untrue, and even the GTA games, which are whipping boys around here, have much better, more interesting, more fleshed out characters than the vast majority of adventure games I've played (a lot). There was a character in GTA3 whom I was legitimately sad to see go. Adventure games do not have a monopoly on story and characters.
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Old 02/18/2011, 08:24 pm   #10
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^ Yes, there should be action sequences in a BTTF game. However, you can't have the game just be mostly these. The movies weren't action movies. They had a few action scenes, but the movies were based around their plot and characters. For instance, the first film. Its action scenes were the Libyan attack and the skateboard chase. Two action scenes in a 90 minute movie. And the game does indeed have its own 'action scenes,' but they are more puzzle oriented than you would probably like.

Nobody said adventure games had a monopoly on story and characters, and if they did, they're moronic. Look at RPGs, interactive fiction, and yes, action games (though I think Red Dead Redemption had a better story than GTA III). However, let's look at this. Nobody could make a serious BTTF RPG work. Nobody would fund an interactive fiction BTTF game, and not many other than die-hard fans would play it. And as has been said millions of times, Back to the Future and action game don't match up well. When did Marty or Doc ever intentionally harm anybody besides a Tannen in the movies?

So that leaves the adventure game. It may not be perfectthe perfect genre for BTTF, but it matches the tone of it best.
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Old 02/18/2011, 10:15 pm   #11
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I really think that no matter what, there's going to be two groups on this game. The ones that love it and nothing will convince them otherwise, and the ones who don't like it and won't be convinced otherwise. It's kinda sad that not everyone can appreciate it, but everyone's entitled to their own opinions. I for one am glad to have one more adventure with Doc and Marty and that time-traveling DeLorean.
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Old 02/18/2011, 10:21 pm   #12
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I have my problems with BttF, manly the difficulty, which we're already talking about, but the fact that the game is point and click has nothing to do with why I'm disappointed. You can't just take a type of game and say a game will be bad because it is that type. If a shooter or a sandbox game were this easy it would be just as bad, hell it would probably be worse. At least BttF has an interesting story.

As for linear gameplay heaps of games are made like that, there's nothing wrong with it. Many of the great Adventure games are linear. Many of the greatest games ever made are linear.
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Old 02/19/2011, 02:50 am   #13
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As far as story goes, I'm completely happy with Back to the Future. They're doing a fantastic job and it's really interesting to see young Doc. I would however like more scenes between him and Marty that aren't just Doc waiting around in the square for something to happen.

It's widely documented on the forum that the puzzles are too easy. Having practically items drop on the floor in front of you isn't a puzzle. Having numerous characters tell you what to do isn't a puzzle. Unless they're finding it difficult to come up with inventive and interesting ideas there's simply no excuse when there's a hint system built into the movie... err I mean game.

I'm hoping in future episodes they might also demonstrate a little of the gameplay mechanics they're using in Jurassic Park. Not too much of it, just enough to create a little tension. For instance, if there's another chase scene (which surely there will be) or some instance where Marty is racing against the clock to get something to Doc in time, the QTE control method would be perfect.
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Old 02/19/2011, 05:34 am   #14
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After playing both episodes there seemed a very important element missing in this series. It just wasn't "FUN" to play. It was OK but just not very fun to play. That was my observation. I just happen to like fun games. So, what's my definition of fun games. Well, Monkey Island was fun to play. Let's get more of those episodes.
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Old 02/19/2011, 08:55 am   #15
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Wow, Jurassic Park looks good and Back to the Future is bad? I feel like I am in opposite world.
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Old 02/19/2011, 10:01 am   #16
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I can sympathize with people who see a favorite movie/character/franchise made into a game that is otherwise not to their liking. Many adventure gamers (though not me personally) were upset when Lucasarts switched Indiana Jones games from mostly adventure-style gameplay to mostly action. As others have said, I'm not disappointed that BTTF is an adventure game, only that BTTF isn't a good adventure game.

But to those who are unhappy about the kind of game BTTF is, your beef should really be with Universal, not Telltale. Universal controls the BTTF property, and TT surely told Universal what kind of game they had in mind when they pitched it. It wouldn't have been done as an adventure game without Universal's say-so. Creative people (or at least one person?) from the movies were involved with the project, and they would have more authority than anyone here to say what kind of game is right for the franchise. Seriously, though -- if you're dissatisfied with the BTTF game for that reason, then write to Universal.
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Old 02/19/2011, 10:57 am   #17
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I'd have to disagree with you. I think the puzzle solving point and click game fits well with Back to the future. If you look at the movie, the basic premises was "what if you met your parents when they were your age." and the story just went from their. There wasn't much action involved and it was mostly figuring out how to get Marty's parents back together. the movie is pretty much a puzzle in and of itself.

in fact I can see a point and click sequence working perfectly when doc was hanging from the clock tower trying to get the wire to reconnect with the lightning rod wire then figuring out you can use the rope to zip line your way down to connect the other wire.
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Old 02/19/2011, 12:59 pm   #18
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Okay, so 2 months or so ago, I posted a comment about how this game was going to suck for the following reasons..

A.) Point and click
B.) Linear gameplay

After getting bitched out by telltale radicals I thought, well...maybe it won't be as bad as I am thinking. And at least it's a modern, 3D BTTF game. God was I wrong. After playing the demo and watching in horror at the gameplay videos online..I totally lost all hope in getting an awesome BTTF game. And the worst part is, look at the Jurassic Park trailer. It looks awesome. It's not cartoony, and from what Ive read its NOT going to be point and click. Apparently the designer said it wouldnt feel right to walk around aimlessly solving puzzles..? So why the hell is the Back to the Future game just that?! Whats the difference between BTTF and JP? Theyre both adventure movies. So why does JP get to be an awesome adventure game and BTTF, which is probably more popular anyway, is a cartoony, restricted, puzzle game? I just don't get it.....And to those of you out there who are going to rip me to shreads about not knowing what BTTF is about or sarcasticly tell me theyre sorry that its not like GTA, this time I know I am right that BTTF did not get the game it deserved.

So anyone out there who agrees with me, share your story. And if you disagree with me, please tell me why I should like the BTTF game.

Thanks
I felt the very same way, and in certain ways I still do. I'm quite enjoying this game now after getting into it. The music and some of the cut scenes are epic BTTF, but I DO agree that this game would have been better as an action game, such as getting to drive the delorean and exploring, a bit more like Grand Theft Auto.
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I felt the very same way, and in certain ways I still do. I'm quite enjoying this game now after getting into it. The music and some of the cut scenes are epic BTTF, but I DO agree that this game would have been better as an action game, such as getting to drive the delorean and exploring, a bit more like Grand Theft Auto.
Then it wouldn't fit at all. Unless you time travel to the future, you'd be on foot because you'd have to hide the DeLorean. Make for rather boring gameplay if you ask me. BttF is story driven. Plain and simple.

Also, quick thing to the OP: Jurassic Park is not an adventure movie and neither is Back to the Future. Jurassic Park is a sci-fi suspense thriller. Back to the Future on the other hand is a sci-fi romantic comedy. The only thing that the two have in common is the "sci-fi" aspect.
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Old 02/19/2011, 02:08 pm   #20
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Same here, no need to state this actually.

Although a LOT of new people came here when this license was announced, TTGs core fan base is still made up of avid adventure gamers. It's those that might feel very disappointed because BTTF turned out to be not a good adventure game.
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