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Old 02/18/2011, 05:35 pm   #1
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Old 02/18/2011, 09:36 pm   #2
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...don't let The Adversary get you!
I guess this means the episodes are going to be set somewhere in the first half of the series (thusfar) then. :P
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The story was featured on the front page of Superherohype, a leading comics and film website I frequent, that is connected to AintitCool, LatinoReview, Comingsoon, etc. Why am I posting this? I've been going to this website even longer than Telltale, and I never thought I'd see the day that Telltale was featured on their front page. It's cool! If you wanted to get the attention of comics fans to this project, this website was a fantastic place to do so.
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Old 02/19/2011, 03:34 am   #4
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Interesting, not sure how it's going to work in an adventure game setting but Telltale has amazed me before.
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Old 02/19/2011, 08:28 am   #5
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I'm curious to see how this will turn out.
Will there be rape in the game too? It's not a true DC-related product if there isn't rape.
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Old 02/19/2011, 08:49 am   #6
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I'm curious to see how this will turn out.
Will there be rape in the game too? It's not a true DC-related product if there isn't rape.
WTF are you talking about. Apart from publishing libel about DC, of course.
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Old 02/19/2011, 08:52 am   #7
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I can tell you don't read DC/Vertigo comics much.
Let's just say that the company is...jenerous about putting rape in their stories.
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Old 02/19/2011, 09:08 am   #8
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I can tell you don't read DC/Vertigo comics much.
Let's just say that the company is...jenerous about putting rape in their stories.
Actually I have a large collection of comics. Especially DC and Vertigo and I would disagree with you assessment.

Vertigo is thier mature imprint and usually deals with crime you would expect sexual situations and mature content. Doesn't mean it is in every title.

I can't remember one scene in any of the recent stuff like Daytripper, American Vampire, Sweet Tooth, Unwritten, I Zombie etc.

I wouldn't say it never appears in the likes of Scalped etc but so what.

Fables has over 100 issues and a few spin offs. I can't remember any rapes scenes in the storyline, but I don't know it off by heart.
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Old 02/19/2011, 09:16 am   #9
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Doesn't mean it is in every title.
Of course it doesn't, that's why I didn't say it.
Nor did I say that they've done it a billion times or anything like that.
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I meant that they use the "rape" device more than they should. Which they do.
Case in point:
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Of course it doesn't, that's why I didn't say it.
Nor did I say that they've done it a billion times or anything like that.
With this:
Actually you did imply it when you said it wasn't a true DC product without it. Which would suggest that they all do or they aren't true DC products.

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I meant that they use the "rape" device more than they should. Which they do.
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That's only in his backstory and never explict in the issues. Plus it was during a brutal war where those kind of things happen.

I think you are overthinking this issue.
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Old 02/19/2011, 09:46 am   #11
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Actually you did imply it when you said it wasn't a true DC product without it. Which would suggest that they all do or they aren't true DC products.
That was a joke. So no, I don't really think that any DC-related product must have a rape scene in it.

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That's only in his backstory and never explict in the issues. Plus it was during a brutal war where those kind of things happen.

I think you are overthinking this issue.
Good thing I never said they do it too explicitly or without context then!
It's about the execution. It was too juvenile and cliched, to the point they should haven't used it in the first place, since they couldn't handle it in an interesting manner. But rape used as a backstory is the fad of this time, authors think no matter how you handle it it automatically makes a character and a story deep and mature and whatnot, and that's what my complaint was about.

EDIT: Besides, it was pretty explicit. The only way it could have been more explicit was if they actually showed the genitals.

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Old 02/20/2011, 05:43 am   #12
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Just wanted to say that I'm THRILLED about this. Fables is one of my favorite series of all time. Seems like Telltale can't stop picking up properties I love. Let's just hope the difficulty is there in the puzzle aspect of the game.
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Old 02/20/2011, 08:09 am   #13
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Stupid question, I know, but is this going to be a point-and-click adventure?
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Old 02/20/2011, 01:54 pm   #14
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I was briefly into graphic novels from around 1999 to 2003 and Fables was one of the last ones I read. I am pretty sure I read the first two books and liked both very much. Looking forward to seeing what kind of game this is!

I do hope it is kind of its own thing though, I don't want to need to read the books to get it.
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Old 03/05/2011, 09:10 am   #15
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Please, please let this be an adult-oriented series, unlike the watered down Sam 'n Max (the original still the best).
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Old 03/06/2011, 08:47 am   #16
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Please, please let this be an adult-oriented series, unlike the watered down Sam 'n Max (the original still the best).
Sam and Max have never been to the point people seem to think they were. Sam and Max cursing and using extreme extreme violence just seems out of character now.
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Old 03/09/2011, 10:21 pm   #17
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I guess this means the episodes are going to be set somewhere in the first half of the series (thusfar) then. :P
Maybe, or maybe it'll be sometime before the issue #1. Telltale games seem to be original stories taking place in an established fictional universe. So right now I doubt these Fables games will be retellings of stories we've already seen.
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Old 03/17/2011, 09:20 pm   #18
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Bringing up the "rape" as a storytelling device thing again, I really disagree that DC/Vertigo uses it more than it should in their stories. It's not like it doesn't happen in the real world. I think bringing it up in stories that are aimed at adults shouldn't be too shocking, as long as it is not treated in a way that's particularly exploitative. The two specifically implied examples in Fables actually added a lot to the backstory of the major characters.

I can't wait for this by the way. I've just been catching up on Fables lately (I was a few trades behind), and this is easily one of my all time favorite comics. This world seems like such a perfect fit for Telltale. Kudos, and know that I'll be preordering this
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Bringing up the "rape" as a storytelling device thing again, I really disagree that DC/Vertigo uses it more than it should in their stories. It's not like it doesn't happen in the real world. I think bringing it up in stories that are aimed at adults shouldn't be too shocking, as long as it is not treated in a way that's particularly exploitative. The two specifically implied examples in Fables actually added a lot to the backstory of the major characters.
As I said before, it's not about the use of rape per se, it's about the execution. Even admitting it added up to his backstory in a way that no other tragedy could, it was still poorly executed.
Also, DC definitely overdid with the rape thing, especially in "cape comics". A lot of their most notable female characters have been raped.
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Jeepers, where'd all this rape come from? That hardly seems like the sort of thing one expects in a "welcome" thread.

Anyhoo, hi-ho, Telltale-a-rinos. For those who don't know me, I'm Mike Stemmle, one of the writers/designers/people to inevitably blame for disappointing you horribly on Fables.

Now that we're amping up towards production (even as I type this I'm writing dialog on my other monitor and having a heated discussion with John Drake about the look of a certain character's sanctum sanctorum*), I'll be dropping by a little more often to spread news, answer questions, and generally tease the living bejebus out of Fables.

So, in that spirit, does anyone wanna hit me with some initial questions?

I'll answer one right off the bat - Unless our story changes significantly over the next few months, I don't think there's gonna be any rape.

Mike "No Rape - That's the Telltale Promise" Stemmle

* I almost typed "Sanctum Santorum," which would've been an entirely different scene altogether.
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