BTTF Ep 4: Double Visions Predictions thread (Spoilers Warning!)

[Shadowknight1]

Any doubts I had about Edna not being the arsonist vanished when I saw how bat**** crazy she was in Citizen Brown.

[Kamagawa]

Originally Posted by Michael J Fox is Canadian

Bingo! It'll likely be FCB helping marty re create time travel but not go with him so we get the original doc back (I wonder if marty fixes the time line in 1931, does original doc re appear there?)

I would assume that even if FCB in in 1931, the original Doc would still appear as a result of fixing the timeline. Hence the title: Double Visions.

If this isn't possible, you wouldn't hear of an alternate marty being in bording school or that maths thing, he would be where original Marty is.

I know I am probably thinking too hard, but it is possible that you can have young Doc, FCB and old Doc in 1931 at the same time. The issue is what will FCB do? would he fade out or somehow get killed or something to make only 1 old Doc?

[PrivateJoker]

Originally Posted by divisionten

I knew Edna was crazy from day one, but she's so ridiculous that she would attempt to mindslave an entire town (as Biff said, they're planning to make Citizen Plus mandatory) just so she can have her world be perfectly manicured and orderly. No lost shoes.

She's someone I'd normally describe in a string of oh-so-clolrful four-letter words.

On a different note, something tells me Biff may actually be an ally in the next episode. He wanted to clock you, sure, but he wanted to clock Edna more.

I LOL'ed when he said he wanted to "beat down the Witch". LOL

Also Boobies was classic when he saw the confiscated pron.

[Ichijo]

Well its still too early to tell what will happen in Ep.4 alot of the predictions are possible but from what we have seen in the preview we know this.

Marty tells Jenifer about him being from an alternate 1986

Marty has to rescue FCB so they can either repair the Delorean or build a new one using the orginal parts (hence the photo in the finale Outatime)

He has to convince young Emmet to stop dating Edna and focus on science

lets just hope we dont have to wait till the end of the month for Double Visions lol

[amongthelongestusernames]

Originally Posted by PrivateJoker

Like I said before. Assassinate Edna. Problem solved.

Like Doc said in episode 1, "It's About Time":

Originally Posted by Doc Brown from "It's About Time"

Don't even think about it! Without my unjust incarseration, the events that sent you into the past might never happen, resulting in a paradox of continuum-shattering proporitons!

How can a paradox like that be avoided if someone is prevented from doing something that causedthe person who prevented it from happening to go back in time to prevent it from happening in the first place? It can only happen the same way an impossible triangle can be constructed in its 3D form: with a big, in this case temporal, gap.

The deaths that we have seen fixed in the movies and the game did not cause a paradox because the event that caused them to go back in time in the first place did not involve the deaths, i.e. in episode I(movie), Doc is shot(never really explained dead or not), and Marty goes off in the DeLorian forgetting that the time circuts were on, and ends up going... into the plot of episode 1. Then at the end, it is revealed that Doc had kept and repaired a letter that Marty wrote to him about what would happen, and had a bullet-proof vest on.

Wow, it's been a while since I've seen Episode I...

Then again... there is that issue of how that newspaper changed not to show Doc dead, and how Marty couldn't have seen that picture to know that Doc was going to be killed that specific date... Didn't Marty say, regarding the article,"Geez ...I gotta go rescue him!" just before the stacks of newspapers he was searching through toppled over and old Edna told him to get out? Doc has to be killed by gangsters the morning of June 14, 1931 if preventing something that causes someone to go back in time to stop it causes such a paradox, unless I'm missing something. Whether or not I'm correct about this paradox thing, someone is probably going to end up dead, preferrably Edna.

All this speculation about time paradoxes makes me want to do two things:
1. Go to the future to play the next two episodes and not spoil it for this forum other than a few hints that anyone can assume based on what we know(sorry, but you know how time paradoxes go...)
and 2. for some strange reason write up my own theory about a possible Zelda timeline...


Meanwhile, at the official website, they haven't updated the last character's sillhouette marked "coming soon!" in the characters section. It looks like the outline of Marty's character can fit into it perfectly. Could it be another version of Marty, perhaps a slightly older one?

[Michael J Fox is Canadian]

Originally Posted by Kamagawa

I would assume that even if FCB in in 1931, the original Doc would still appear as a result of fixing the timeline. Hence the title: Double Visions.

If this isn't possible, you wouldn't hear of an alternate marty being in bording school or that maths thing, he would be where original Marty is.

I know I am probably thinking too hard, but it is possible that you can have young Doc, FCB and old Doc in 1931 at the same time. The issue is what will FCB do? would he fade out or somehow get killed or something to make only 1 old Doc?

it cant be FCB back in 1931 because if the timeline gets fixed, then the old doc will be gone for good and FCB will still remember the FCB timeline and have no memories of his previous time travels.

[Kamagawa]

Originally Posted by Michael J Fox is Canadian

it cant be FCB back in 1931 because if the timeline gets fixed, then the old doc will be gone for good and FCB will still remember the FCB timeline and have no memories of his previous time travels.

I understand this, don't worry, I am just thinking too much.

Though if I am right, I think the writers will be better at explaining this line of thought properly.
Perhaps I also watch too many movies and tv-shows involving timetravel.

just to reaffirm, I think you are right. I just like thinking of alternatives. And lets face it, the gun-shaped lighter shouldn't exist once you go back in time to arrest Kid, thus creating a paradox.

i still wonder who the person we chase in ep5 will be.

Btw, if you want me to properly explain my line of thought, let me know and I will make a seperate thread for it.

[Michael J Fox is Canadian]

Originally Posted by Kamagawa

I understand this, don't worry, I am just thinking too much.

Though if I am right, I think the writers will be better at explaining this line of thought properly.
Perhaps I also watch too many movies and tv-shows involving timetravel.

just to reaffirm, I think you are right. I just like thinking of alternatives. And lets face it, the gun-shaped lighter shouldn't exist once you go back in time to arrest Kid, thus creating a paradox.

i still wonder who the person we chase in ep5 will be.

I'm wondering that as well, i think the top suspects are edna or griff.

I think the gun should still exist, didnt kid get it from another crime family? Though Marty couldnt have acquired it without kid being free in 1986.

anyhow I think FCB will help marty re create time travel but have marty go back to 1931 alone. The hover conversions do not work on the time machine so we can rule out a flying delorean for most of episode 4 but if marty restores the timeline, that should restore the hover conversion.

[hk_ben]

I need Bttf ride!

[amongthelongestusernames]

Originally Posted by Michael J Fox is Canadian

I think the gun should still exist, didnt kid get it from another crime family? Though Marty couldnt have acquired it without kid being free in 1986.

But if Marty did have the fake gun/lighter, wouldn't they have found it while he was being frisked?

[Gibbeynator]

Either they're going to fix the wrecked DeLorean, or they're going to find a duplicate of the original DeLorean buried under the theatre in 1931.

[el_duderino1251]

My prediction for episode 4, Marty needs help from Jennifer to free Citizen Brown. Once free, he builds the time machine and only Marty goes back in time to prevent Edna and Doc getting together as well as for Doc to meet his date with scientific destiny. Considering that there is the issue with the Science Expo indicated from the previews, Marty needs to convince Doc to mess up a science experiment on purpose.

My prediction for episode 5, Marty needs to find the original Doc first and then they must repair the entire timeline. It's probably in this episode we finally find out why the Delorean has Edna's shoe.

[MOVIELORD101]

Saw the teaser for Episode 4. That last line from Doc gave me the chills.

There is no future for us.....

I have a VERY bad feeling about how the game overall's gonna end. I hope this doesn't mean Doc dies or sacrifices himself to set things right....

[feverfew]

Originally Posted by Kamagawa

I actually agree with you. Maby it is clara? or Marty's daughter? or perhaps Doc's granddaughter? The person you chase in ep5? It does seem to be too much of a coincidence.

either way, ep5 saya that mysteries will be solved. maby she is one of those mysteries.

I have mentioned before that she seems to be the exact reason why Edna didn't go into the theater with Emmet. They were going in all right, when she spotted that woman (her name was Eunice, at least that's what I remember), scowled and turned back.
Maybe she and Edna have some sort of a connection?

[feverfew]

Originally Posted by PsychoRaven

That's called a sight gag. I don't think anything will come of her. She's there for the gag of him running into the same looking lady regardless of time period and reality.

Still, she was the one Edna scowled at, in front of the theater...

[Fabula vir]

Originally Posted by Kamagawa

and why do we never see the alternate Marty?

You mean the Marty of FCB's timeline? I think you could ask that and you were told you were away at some math thing.

[Solid Mike]

I wonder if marty as we know it in this game, isnt really timeline A marty at all, but a marty from a timeline Doc created in 1931. Doc may have gotten himself in trouble, and may have had to fix things himself for that 31 timeline, untill he was arrested and couldnt time travel anymore to fix the ongoing situation. w/o marty to help, but wait! theres marty!! but what marty is this? doc might be wandering as he answers martys Q's from inside his jail cell. Doc may be wondering that his trips during 31 to fix a few things he wronged, have have created alternate timelines.

I say this because doc was cautious to answer questions when you meet him in episode 1. and the intro to episode 1, the JCpinneys lot, how things were off, signs of a timeline that isnt timeline A, a timeline this marty is now starting to see in his memories/dreams.

Wouldnt that be a pickle for episode 5 :O what if all the problems in 31 were fixed just to see marty fading out, his timeline doesnt exist now, Doc wouldnt have been missing for so long, and the delorean wouldnt have come back with einney and edna's shoe.

[WARP10CK]

Originally Posted by PainDealer

Getting the DeLorean part fixed shouldn't be a problem in 1986?

Alternative 1986 where everybody drives golf carts (If telltale replaces the delorean with a golf cart I will boycott every game they make from now on)

[Michael J Fox is Canadian]

Originally Posted by Solid Mike

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I say this because doc was cautious to answer questions when you meet him in episode 1. and the intro to episode 1, the JCpinneys lot, how things were off, signs of a timeline that isnt timeline A, a timeline this marty is now starting to see in his memories/dreams.

that was a dream

[divisionten]

Originally Posted by WARP10CK

Alternative 1986 where everybody drives golf carts (If telltale replaces the delorean with a golf cart I will boycott every game they make from now on)

This is just inside of Hill Valley. I'm pretty sure there are still regular cars outside the walled city- Jennifer didn't seem to phased by the vehicle.