The Original 15 Nublar Embryos

[Cyberscribe]

When Nedry stole all 15 embryos which dinosaurs were they? I'm curious, When did the park brochure that included dinosaurs such as Baryonyx, Segisaurus, and Herrerasaurus appear on screen in the original movie? Because if it wasn't shown at all then wouldn't that bring into question the original 15 embryos? Help me out people what were they? And provide evidence if you can.

[Tyrannosaur87]

Originally Posted by Cyberscribe

When Nedry stole all 15 embryos which dinosaurs were they? I'm curious, When did the park brochure that included dinosaurs such as Baryonyx, Segisaurus, and Herrerasaurus appear on screen in the original movie? Because if it wasn't shown at all then wouldn't that bring into question the original 15 embryos? Help me out people what were they? And provide evidence if you can.

I'm not too sure on the list of the original 15 embryos (aside from the obvious ones of species seen in the movie), however I do know that they did make some spelling errors in a couple of the names.

As for the Brocures, you can see them in the main road scene when Grant is looking for something to distract the Rex from attacking the car Tim and Lex are in

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by Tyrannosaur87

I'm not too sure on the list of the original 15 embryos (aside from the obvious ones of species seen in the movie), however I do know that they did make some spelling errors in a couple of the names.

Well here's all I have so far.
(Embryos that Nedry took seen on screen)
1. Proceratosaurus
2. Gallimimus
3. TyranNosaurus Rex
4. Velociraptor
5. StegOsaurus
6. Metriacanthosaurus
7. Triceratops
(Dinosaurs seen in Park)
8. Dilophosaurus
9. Brachiosaurus
10. Parasaurolophus
(Dinosaurs seen on Brochure)
11. Baryonyx
12. Herrerasaurus
13. Segisaurus
(Dinosaurs introduced in canonical video games)
14. Troodon

So basically for Tell-Tale to stay true to the movies they must use this list of dinosaurs plus one other dinosaur for the whole list to remain true to the Jurassic Park Lore.

[Tyrannosaur87]

Originally Posted by Cyberscribe

Well here's all I have so far.
(Embryos that Nedry took seen on screen)
1. Proceratosaurus
2. Gallimimus
3. TyranNosaurus Rex
4. Velociraptor
5. StegOsaurus
6. Metriacanthosaurus
7. Triceratops
(Dinosaurs seen in Park)
8. Dilophosaurus
9. Brachiosaurus
10. Parasaurolophus
(Dinosaurs seen on Brochure)
11. Baryonyx
12. Herrerasaurus
13. Segisaurus
(Dinosaurs introduced in canonical video games)
14. Troodon

So basically for Tell-Tale to stay true to the movies they must use this list of dinosaurs plus one other dinosaur for the whole list to remain true to the Jurassic Park Lore.

So excluding the Troodon, which is an unknown species on the island (hopefully it's creation is explained, as it is a little hard to believe that someone would miss a creature like that being cloned) that leaves us with two other species to work with, since we're not going off of the novel.

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by Tyrannosaur87

So excluding the Troodon, which is an unknown species on the island (hopefully it's creation is explained, as it is a little hard to believe that someone would miss a creature like that being cloned) that leaves us with two other species to work with, since we're not going off of the novel.

Fair enough. I do hope that they explain Troodon, maybe it's Biosyn's secret weapon lol but personally I think that Pteranodon is the next best bet. Considering that they are mentioned in the Original movie.. but only for a split second on the advertisement from Hammond while they are all eating lunch and only by an obscure reference of "majestic winged dinosaurs".

[AndyCullen]

Was there an aviary in the movie cannon? If so, Pteranodon.

[Tyrannosaur87]

Originally Posted by AndyCullen

Was there an aviary in the movie cannon? If so, Pteranodon.

I don't think there was one in the movie. In the novel, yes. In the film, I don't think so.

[evolution_rex]

Here is the list of dinosaurs found on Isla Nublar on according to JPLegacy: http://www.jplegacy.org/index2.php?l...slnublar.shtml

[Icedhope]

Originally Posted by Tyrannosaur87

I don't think there was one in the movie. In the novel, yes. In the film, I don't think so.

On Sorna, not on Nublar.

[Icedhope]

Originally Posted by evolution_rex

Here is the list of dinosaurs found on Isla Nublar on according to JPLegacy: http://www.jplegacy.org/index2.php?l...slnublar.shtml

Well that's probably going to change soon.

[jurassiraptor]

Originally Posted by AndyCullen

Was there an aviary in the movie cannon? If so, Pteranodon.

The aviary is mentioned (and shown during the slideshow) during the lunch debate scene, though it is not certain if any pteranodons were actually on Nublar yet at that point.

It is also argued by some that baryonyx may actually have been spinosaurus, misidentified.

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by Tyrannosaur87

I don't think there was one in the movie. In the novel, yes. In the film, I don't think so.

But they were planning on having winged dinosaurs along with the jungle river cruise in the movie. It's up there with Future Attractions while they're having lunch you gotta look for it though you have a picture of the river cruise ride and then a building that looks somewhat like an aviary and the voice in the background talking about winged dinosaurs. Pteranodons might be in that Embryo Freezer that Nedry raided.

[Tyrannosaur87]

Originally Posted by Cyberscribe

But they were planning on having winged dinosaurs along with the jungle river cruise in the movie. It's up there with Future Attractions while they're having lunch you gotta look for it though you have a picture of the river cruise ride and then a building that looks somewhat like an aviary and the voice in the background talking about winged dinosaurs. Pteranodons might be in that Embryo Freezer that Nedry raided.

That is possible, however we'll never know for sure unless we see visual evidence.

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by Tyrannosaur87

So excluding the Troodon, which is an unknown species on the island (hopefully it's creation is explained, as it is a little hard to believe that someone would miss a creature like that being cloned) that leaves us with two other species to work with, since we're not going off of the novel.

So Troodon just appeared? I thought it was intentionally made to be exhibited in the park. What's the big secret? it's just another dinosaur.

[jurassiraptor]

Originally Posted by Cyberscribe

So Troodon just appeared? I thought it was intentionally made to be exhibited in the park. What's the big secret? it's just another dinosaur.

If we consider JP:The Game to be canon, then troodon should replace either pteranodon or compsognathus as one of the 15 species, since neither of these have visual confirmation as being on Isla Nublar and their inclusion on the list is speculative.

(Or, go with the theory that segisaurus was a mislabled compsognathus, which would combine those two into one and open up the 15th slot for troodon.)

[Tyrannosaur87]

Originally Posted by Cyberscribe

So Troodon just appeared? I thought it was intentionally made to be exhibited in the park. What's the big secret? it's just another dinosaur.

We don't know much about it other than it's the 'new threat' that the player will have to face in the game. The developers have been very stingy with the information regarding it. Hopefully an explanation will come soon, either via the development team, a trailer, or the game itself

[evolution_rex]

Originally Posted by Icedhope

Well that's probably going to change soon.

Why would it change? :/

[Tyrannosaur87]

Originally Posted by evolution_rex

Why would it change? :/

Probably since Troodon is now somewhat going to be considered canon. It only makes sense to change the list by adding Troodon to it

[jmine83]

Here's my two cents into this debate as I have already said "numerous" times even several years back. The whole "fifteen species" condition, is already final, fixed, and Troodon can "not" be one of those fifteen as far as I am concerned. The only "two" species of those fifteen that is even remotely debatable is "Pteranodon" and "Compsognathus". For starters, how could Pteranodon not be one of the fifteen species? Simply because for that matter, in the novel the Pteratops Lodge was a "major" unique attraction that I find hard to believe was not planned to exist in the JP movie universe. Personally, I'm basically playing the "use common sense" card on these two species on the grounds of what is "most" strongly implied and makes sense. I know its not enough to convince other people, but that's my position on the matter and I'm sticking to it. As for Compsognathus, for anyone who has been to the JP Ride in Hollywood, pay close attention to the video presentation that you watch while you're waiting in line. It's been a long time since I've been when the ride was brand new, "but" one of the big, unique little bits of commentary that the video presentation went into that caught my attention, was of the "vital" importance that Compies serve in the park; i.e. as the dung beetles of the dinosaur world. Apparently according to the lore of JP, Compies were discovered to have a natural tendency for eating the droppings of the other dinosaurs and thus helping to manage the cleanliness of the dinosaur paddocks. Sounds critically important to me.

As for this Troodon business, I was first very opposed to the matter. But after some other random discussions on the message boards about this subject, I'm warming up to the idea a bit more. But I think TT is setting themselves up to have to cleverly explain a very difficult matter that would otherwise break movie canon. So in short, the story behind Troodon better be good. One thing is for sure in my opinion, however, is that Troodon can not be one of the "tour" dinosaurs.

[Cyberscribe]

Originally Posted by jurassiraptor

If we consider JP:The Game to be canon, then troodon should replace either pteranodon or compsognathus as one of the 15 species, since neither of these have visual confirmation as being on Isla Nublar and their inclusion on the list is speculative.

(Or, go with the theory that segisaurus was a mislabled compsognathus, which would combine those two into one and open up the 15th slot for troodon.)

That wouldn't make any sense to do that. Segisaurus was at least shown as an exhibit in the movie while Compsognathus wasn't mentioned at all. If you're going to include Compy then you should replace it with Troodon if it does turn out to be InGen's creation. Similar Venom, pack hunting, carnivorous, ambush predators, makes pretty good sense for Troodon to be Nublar's equivalent of the Compy.