Ridley Scott's Prometheus (Alien Prequel) Thread

[tredlow]

Oh, I thought you were talking about these shorts.

[Secret Fawful]

Holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit I forgot Michael Fassbender is in this. That man is one of the most incredible actors working today and I will wankingly watch every thing he is in, even if he makes Tooth Fairy 2.

[GuybrushWilco]

I only saw the original cut of Alien 3, so I will take your advice and track down this new blu ray version. I must say though, that even if the other edit is superior, they still killed off Hicks, New before the movie even started, which really kind of ruins Aliens. They also killed off Bishop! but I'll give it a try anyway .

[Davies]

Originally Posted by GuybrushWilco

I only saw the original cut of Alien 3, so I will take your advice and track down this new blu ray version. I must say though, that even if the other edit is superior, they still killed off Hicks, New before the movie even started, which really kind of ruins Aliens. They also killed off Bishop! but I'll give it a try anyway .

I'm glad that you're going to check out the assembly cut, I hope you enjoy it.

Regarding Newt and Hicks, the story really demands that they were killed off as quickly as possible. Alien3 is a tale of redemption, sacrifice and faith. Thematically it deals heavily with life and death. The scene which shines this thematic beacon the brightest is the funeral speech by Dillon; dedicated to the aforementioned characters...

Why are the innocent punished? Why the sacrifice? Why the pain? There aren't any promises. Nothing's certain. Only that some get called, some get saved. She won't ever know the hardship and grief for those of us left behind. We commit these bodies to the void... with a glad heart. For within each seed, there is the promise of a flower. And within each death, no matter how small, there's always a new life. A new beginning. - Dillon, Alien3

Naturally, during this speech the films cuts back and forth between the funeral itself and the birth of the Alien from the ox. It's also worth noting the futile questions of "why" at the beggining of the Dillon's speech, this shows us that Alien3 is a film reflective of real life. In real life, you can strive to save someone and still lose them. In real life, things rarely go the way we would like them to. Only one thing is certain in real life; death and with each death, a new life.

James Cameron's Aliens was a blockbuster extravaganza. One of the finest action adventures ever committed to screen, in short; it's a classic of the genre it inhabits (which unlike Alien and Alien3, is not horror). It shows Ripley tortured by the events of the first film and by the loss of her daughter (although only in the special edition, which once again is the far superior version). It is however a "popcorn munching" flick, Ripley overcomes the loss of her daughter by saving Newt. She overcomes her fear of the xenomorpth by facing her literal demon and blowing it out of an airlock. The ending of Aliens is in no way true to life, it is pure happily-ever-after fantasy.

Alien3 represents a harsh crash back down to reality (or in this case, a penal colony). It is a dark, gritty and thoughtful film, which mirrors our own lives by asking questions that can never be answered and shows a life where bad things can happen to good people. The film also, through redemption, shows that hope and resilience will always spring eternal.

If you were to take the first three Alien films and lay them out, it is the second film which actually stands as the odd one out. Alien3 is the true spirtitual followup to the original masterpiece. Of course, that does not mean that you should necessarily favour Alien3 over Aliens (in fact, despite the fact that I personally prefer Alien3 over Aliens, I will concede that Aliens is a vastly more "polished" piece of work) but it should at the very least demonstrate the worthiness of Alien3's place in the franchise.

Alien 3, the diamond in the rough of the series.

[Ribs]

Originally Posted by Davies

Alien 3, the diamond in the rough of the series.

Wow, that poster sends shivers down my spine!

[doodo!]

WOW Davies , you really know these movies well.

[Davies]

One of the peeps over at my second favoured forum haunt (AVPGalaxy) has pointed out that the archway surrounding the door in one of the leaked set photos is a stylized design of a facehugger in its "attatched to a host's head" position. Observe...

For reference, here's a front on view of a facehugger.


It's body is at the top, centre and it's legs are wrapping around the sides down to the halfway point of the arch.

Just for kicks, here's the Queen embryo carrying "super-facehugger" from the assembly cut of Alien3....

Originally Posted by doodo!

WOW Davies , you really know these movies well.

Ridley Scott's Alien is my favourite film of all time and the following two sequels are certainly in my top 20. If I ever went on Mastermind, then the Alien films would undoubtedly be my specialist subject. I'm like a walking encyclopedia on acid spilling xenomorpths.

[DAISHI]

I never liked these movies too much, but I'll probably see this.

[Johro]

just a little something from AITH posted yesterday:

"Last week we saw a pair of cave-photos from the set of Ridley Scott's ALIEN-esque horror-show, PROMETHEUS...likely constructed on the famed Pinewood Studios in England. Well, news has come in today that Scott his moving his whole crew to that lovely bastion of summer getaways...Iceland!

Not only that, Scott had a few things to say regarding his highly-shrouded return to sci-fi. Peep it...

“If one is afraid of nature in this profession then it would be best to find a different job.”

That sounds like more of a Werner Herzog quote, but okay. More interestingly, Scott added:

“It will be 15 minutes in total, if all goes to plan. We are shooting the beginning of time.”

About the secrecy surrounding the production:

“There is a lot of innovative and new stuff in the film and it would be a shame to ruin that [surprise] with leaks.”

And regarding the ultimate reason to film in Iceland:

“It is possible to find similar landscapes elsewhere in the world,” Scott explained. “But here it is so rough and ‘Jurassic-like’ and that proved decisive. Iceland is a massively beautiful country.”

Coming June 8th of next year, visionary filmmaker Ridley Scott returns to the genre he helped define, creating an original science fiction epic set in the most dangerous corners of the universe. The film takes a team of scientists and explorers on a thrilling journey that will test their physical and mental limits and strand them on a distant world, where they will discover the answers to our most profound questions and to life's ultimate mystery."

[Davies]

Originally Posted by Johro

"“If one is afraid of nature in this profession then it would be best to find a different job".

That sounds like more of a Werner Herzog quote...

That quote's been taken out of context. It's Ridley's answer to a question regarding his fears about the recent warning that there may be volcanic eruptions during their filming in Iceland.

It's a reassuring quote that shows that Scott is still a filmmaker who likes to film on location and shoot everything in-camera whenever possible, as opposed to simply relying on CGI during the post-production process.

[Irishmile]

Yeah they are some of my all time favorite movies as well.

[Davies]

The first official still from Prometheus has been released. Footage is expected to follow (via Comic-Con) very soon...

[Johro]

boom

[Davies]

Photos from the footage shown at Comic-Con have been leaked. They may be low quality but they do offer a tantalising glimpse of what's to come. Interestingly, these shots appear to have been taken from a cam-video, suggesting that the actual footage may be getting leaked soon.

[PHOTOS DELETED VIA FOX'S LEGAL DEPARTMENT]

... I have reuploaded the photos for you on page 3 of this thread.

[Johro]

Lookin' pretty good.

[Davies]

Two new set photos have been leaked...

This first image shows that the objects seen in the silo are not eggs but in fact urns, believed to contain the mysterious green gloop.


The second photo reveals some more Giger influenced set design.

Furthermore , closer examination of two of the screen grabs from the Comic-Con footage reveal something of interest...

There is a large sculpture of what appears to be a human head in the silo. In the above shot, you can see this head from the back (with the ears to the left and right of the object).


Here you can see the head to the right of the shot (it's side on), with the nose being fairly prominent.

[Vainamoinen]

tinypic doesn't seem to be reliable... maybe try imageshack instead?

[Davies]

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen

tinypic doesn't seem to be reliable... maybe try imageshack instead?

I'm seeing the images fine on my end.

[der_ketzer]

Originally Posted by Davies

If you were to take the first three Alien films and lay them out, it is the second film which actually stands as the odd one out. Alien3 is the true spirtitual followup to the original masterpiece.

You just summarized in short why I hate Aliens and Love Alien³. Thanks.

[DAISHI]

Originally Posted by Davies

I'm seeing the images fine on my end.

It's cached in your browser.