Final Fantasy VII

[Vainamoinen]

All right, on topic or get out.
But I think the question was pretty much answered already.

[Davies]

Originally Posted by Darth Marsden

I said shush, Russell T!

Both Russell T Davies and I might be Welsh. However...


Don't ya ever go comparin' me to that camp bear, ya hear me fool?

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen

All right, on topic or get out.
But I think the question was pretty much answered already.

Eep! I guess I should have checked the third page of this thread before replying to a post on the second page. Seeming as the question has been answered already, maybe it's time to lock this thread or better yet; turn it into an all purpose FFVII thread.

[puzzlebox]

Originally Posted by Davies

Seeming as the question has been answered already, maybe it's time to lock this thread or better yet; turn it into an all purpose FFVII thread.

I hereby declare this the all-purpose,
all-singing, all-dancing,
general Final Fantasy VII thread.

[Vainamoinen]

Originally Posted by puzzlebox

I hereby declare this the all-purpose,
all-singing, all-dancing,
general Final Fantasy VII thread.

Too long for a thread title. It's worth a try, though.

[DAISHI]

Originally Posted by Davies

Both Russell T Davies and I might be Welsh. However...


Don't ya ever go comparin' me to that camp bear, ya hear me fool?

Eep! I guess I should have checked the third page of this thread before replying to a post on the second page. Seeming as the question has been answered already, maybe it's time to lock this thread or better yet; turn it into an all purpose FFVII thread.

Davies you have this quirky habit of linking images that won't display.

[Davies]

Originally Posted by DAISHI

Davies you have this quirky habit of linking images that won't display.

You say that as though I do it on purpose! I use a PS3 to surf the net; you try posting images, much less trying to type a message using the Dualshock controller. I should be given a freakin' medal for some of the epic posts I've made considering the inadequate technology I use. Give me a break.

[Darth Marsden]

OK, here's a question that's on-topic...

How many Final Fantasy VII-related products have you played/watched?

I've played VII and Dirge of Cerebus as well as watched Advent Children and the anime Last Order.

[Scnew]

I played Final Fantasy VII when it was new, loved it like crazy.

However many years later, I went to Target on release day to snatch up Advent Children, my nerdy mitts quivering with joy to be holding NEW FINAL FANTASY VII after all those years.

Then I watched it.

And thus died my interest in seeking out any of the other new FFVII related material.

[Rawr]

I've played and completed both Crisis Core and FF7. Played but not got very far on Dirge of Cerberus, and watched both Advent Children as well as the Last Order OVA.

I used to love Final Fantasy 7, but now the only part of the series I still really like is Crisis Core(Epic game).

[waroftheworlds01]

I've played FF7 once the whole way through. i tried going back and replaying it but I can't get past the 1st CD anymore.

I own Advent Children. It's alright. I think they focused too much on trying to make awesome fightscenes that they just didn't care about the story. I had to watch that thing like six times to fully understand what's going on. The script is just so... blah... that its just hard to follow. Short and uninteresting plot points followed by very long and drawn out fight scenes. The only think really worth watching it for is the fancy CGI and the final fight. And, of course, to see all your favorite FF7 characters.

The story really killed it though. I would have rathered it be actually be the story from the game. Would have game them time to fill in some plot holes.

Didn't play any other FF7 releated games. Almost picked up Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis Core once but didn't. lol

[DAISHI]

The problem with the movie is that it's written like a JRPG. Incoherently.

[Rawr]

What pissed me off the most about Advent Children bar the poor story, was honestly Cloud himself. What happened to the character development in FF7 which made him a better person? It seemed like it had been chucked straight out of the window.

[der_ketzer]

Originally Posted by Darth Marsden

How many Final Fantasy VII-related products have you played/watched?

0. Oh wait. 1. The demo of FF7 on the PC. I was not impressed.

[Sammy]

Originally Posted by Rawr

What pissed me off the most about Advent Children bar the poor story, was honestly Cloud himself. What happened to the character development in FF7 which made him a better person? It seemed like it had been chucked straight out of the window.

The thing that bothered me most about AC is how incomprehensible it was even to people who actually finished the game. The first time I watched it, the whole time I had no idea what was actually going on. Just like the game, without reading any materials from the limited edition, you'll be easily lost.

[Davies]

Originally Posted by der_ketzer

0. Oh wait. 1. The demo of FF7 on the PC. I was not impressed.

The PC demo was my first experience with not only a Final Fantasy game but with a role-playing game in general. Like yourself; I was unimpressed with what I played. A couple of months later I went into HMV to buy a new game. I picked up a copy of Unreal and took it to the counter. The sales assistant enquired what gaming rig I possessed, I told him my PC's specs and he informed me that they weren't up to scratch for Unreal.

I took the game back to the shelf and tried to locate another game to purchase. I really couldn't find anything to buy but I was determined to buy something and that's when serendipity kicked in; for some reason I bought a copy of Final Fantasy VII. From the moment I started playing through to the emotionally charged finale; I was hooked. It was and still is one of my happiest gaming memories.

In short; the Final Fantasy VII PC demo is not indicative of the actual game. Part of what makes Final Fantasy VII such a great game is it's interesting (if highly convoluted) storyline and it's charming characters, which are aspects that the demo completely failed to convey.

It would be such a shame to miss out on one of the greatest games ever made due to one of the worst demos ever made. I strongly recommend picking up a cheap copy of the full game and seeing if you enjoy it.

[der_ketzer]

Originally Posted by Davies

It would be such a shame to miss out on one of the greatest games ever made due to one of the worst demos ever made. I strongly recommend picking up a cheap copy of the full game and seeing if you enjoy it.

All I had to do to play it is get the old PS1 of my cousin and his copy of the game. But I don't think I can play his german PS1-version in English.

[Shadowknight1]

Time for me to chime in...not out of any real reason, just felt like dropping in here.

I didn't get into Final Fantasy VII until a few years after it was out. My copy of the game was used, but I didn't think much of that fact at the time. I was too used to my cartridge games working solidly. Anyways, made it through the whole game, got up to the final boss battles without maxing levels, without Omnislash or any other final limit breaks, and no Knights of the Round. JENOVA Death? Not hard. Bizarro Sephiroth? Difficult. Safer Sephiroth? HOLY CRAP. Managed to beat them, then did that little pre-scripted, "there's no way you can effin lose here" fight, then sat back and waited for the ending to roll...and waited...and waited...stared at the black screen like it was a spatial anomaly intent on devouring my soul...and then spouted swears at the screen for a good solid hour. Tried again, couldn't beat Safer Sephiroth if my life depended on it. So, I did what any sane person would do. I took the game out of my PlayStation, put it in its case, and hit YouTube to watch the ending.

Then a couple years back, the game hit the PlayStation Network. I bought it, and played it on my PS3, this time taking great care to follow guides, get every weapon, and generally max out the party as best I could(except Aerith...who cares what level she gets to, she dies anyway). Still never got Knights of the Round, but got everyone else's ultimate weapons and final Limit Breaks. Then at level...I think 70? I went to give one more go against Sephiroth. I didn't think I had a chance. JENOVA? Piece of cake, took maybe a minute. Bizarro Sephiroth? Didn't stand a chance against the might of three different Bahamuts. Safer Sephiroth? Omnislash and Final Heaven pretty much took care of him.

Verdict on the original? I love it.

Now, onto the Compilation stuff. Before Crisis is a dumb phone game, so never played it. Crisis Core was pretty good. Advent Children Complete(the Blu Ray version) is a fun movie to watch. Dirge of Cerberus was a decent game. And of course, the oft rumored remake is a topic of some interest to me. Particularly after the success of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D. If Square follows that formula, just updates the graphics and gives the game a fully realized world, but keeps the gameplay the same with some enhancements, then it'll be great. If they try to make it like the later Final Fantasy games, it'll be a hardcore failure.

[Rawr]

I'd rather them just leave Final Fantasy VII alone.

[JedExodus]

Originally Posted by Shadowknight1

then sat back and waited for the ending to roll...and waited...and waited...stared at the black screen like it was a spatial anomaly intent on devouring my soul...and then spouted swears at the screen for a good solid hour.

I thought that I was the only one this happened to, that was the day my brother and I lost our innocence.

Also I remember finishing FFVIII and I got a phonecall from my friend, which my mother insisted I take immediately. I missed the entire ending. I still resent you for that Michael Traynor.

[Rawr]

I remember shouting at the screen after Final Fantasy VII's ending. Not because it froze or anything... but because I was extremely disappointed with the ending. xD I just sort of expected something more than 1 minute FMV. Like what happened after etc.

I suppose we got that eventually with Advent Children, but as we discussed already, that was hardly spectacular in terms of story.

Oh, and as for missing endings. I missed the entirety of Suikoden V's True ending because someone decided to walk in my room, and then stand infront of the screen while talking about something, and wouldn't move. Really pissed me off, because I'd gone to the trouble of getting every character so I could see the true ending. Not to mention the last save point was a good 2hours prior to that, along with quite a few bosses along the way. I finally watched it on youtube last year.