Back to the future franchise dead?

[generalcabdriver45]

Hello there telltale forum members I want to make this thread to make a point about something now telltale fans who are here because of sam and max TOMI etc, Shouldnt reply or read futher because I am very sure I am going to anger them with some of the stuff coming up... Now I will get to the point.

Of course most of you have seen back to the future and as good as it is, it seems to be dying out here's why I think that:

1. Films like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars or Jurassic Park have had lots of games whilse Back to the future has not, but when Telltale made the recent one they messed up let me explain my point, The graphics were rubbish and made it look like a kids cartoon more than a game about a film for adults, and even worse is they went and delayed Jurassic park to make it a whole level better, what do Telltale prefer Jurassic park? If they do I dont see a reason to make one game better and on more consoles and better graphics etc and have the other game made cheaply and quickly... Also it seems Telltale prefer using voice actors, for example tom wilson now I know that it wasnt completley there fault but after they learnt tom didnt mind being in the game they still went ahead and got a terrible voice actor which if you read his info on the bttf page he has worked in other games for them so it means they didnt even try doing auditions to find a 'better' Biff Tannen.

Now to extend all this is the point of companys they cant even be botherd to buy the rights to companys like nike or pepsi which was always being shown in the films, also in episode 1 Jcpenny = Jcpennie...WTF, now I know it would of been pointless since it was only there for a few miniutes of the game but still it makes no sense that in the film it's jcpenny and then six monthes later the company turn it into Jcpennie.

2. Lego. Now when I talk about lego I already know why they will not make a Back to the future lego set or game but still it seems unfair that films which are rubbish get a lego back to the future.

3. Blu-ray. Back to the future eventually got released onto Blu-ray but only just, people had to lietrally protest for a blu-ray release while films like star wars get them really easily.

4. It seems everything to do with back to the future is being ripped up thrown out and ripped more, of course im talking about the ride.

I dont see how it is fair that a fantastic film can be so coldley abondoned.
If you have heard a star wars ride has been opened in disneyland, hardly fair!!!



If you still think the back to the future franchise is doing well except from the fact nike made some shoes which look like the ones in part 2. Then I dont know how to convince you that back to the future will be in the dust in another 10-20 years whilse films like avatar (which is overated) or star wars will be still living on with some crappy new tv show which completley erases the point of the films.

[ryannumber1gamer]

also the everytime star wars re-releases theres always more changes

[Scnew]

Originally Posted by generalcabdriver45

Then I dont know how to convince you that back to the future will be in the dust in another 10-20 years whilse films like avatar (which is overated) or star wars will be still living on with some crappy new tv show which completley erases the point of the films.

I would argue that you should be glad to let Back to the Future just be what it was, which was awesome, and let it go.

As you said, Star Wars is still living on, but it pales in comparison to what it used to be. It's just a way to squeeze money out of the public these days, there is no integrity to it. Lucas regularly makes changes to the movies we love. The video games and cartoon series and books crap all over continuity that came previously for no reason.

Is that what you WANT Back to the Future to become? Do you want it to keep going forever? How many time travel adventures can Doc and Marty realistically have before it gets watered down and corny?

A franchise shouldn't go on forever.

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by Scnew

How many time travel adventures can Doc and Marty realistically have before it gets watered down and corny?

Apparently around three. Note the examples of crappy stories in the franchise as it is, such as the cartoon or the Telltale game.

Originally Posted by Scnew

A franchise shouldn't go on forever.

Doctor Who seems to be doing well overall. For its intended audience, Sesame Street continues to give solid output, considering the toddlers I know seem to enjoy it and continue to learn their numbers and letters quite well. =P

[generalcabdriver45]

Originally Posted by Scnew

Is that what you WANT Back to the Future to become? Do you want it to keep going forever? How many time travel adventures can Doc and Marty realistically have before it gets watered down and corny?
A franchise shouldn't go on forever.

I didnt say that and star wars is and its going very well for the star wars fans and it's not just star wars it's lotr is getting a sequal or was it a prequal well anyway lotr is ok but it's for geeky people who like to dress up as elves and like to sacrifice lambs in the name of gandolf or some crazy shit.

Star wars, I mean really do I have to actully explain that, if you have ever gone outside to a shop then you will know what im talking about.

Back to the future is the greatest out of all three but yet it has had the least amount of stuff and fans (check out the offical movie pages of all the films i listed on facebook and tell me which one has the least amount and if you really cant be assed to check it out yourself i will post it now *back to the future has the least amount of fans*)

[Scnew]

I'm not really sure what your point is, then. You do or you don't want there to be more Back to the Future crap?

[generalcabdriver45]

Originally Posted by Scnew

I'm not really sure what your point is, then. You do or you don't want there to be more Back to the Future crap?

so you think back to the future is crap?

And yes i want a decent respectfull game now i didnt say this but i think telltale are a great games company but they shouldnt be making a game for such a brilliant franchise like back to the future... EA or sommat should make it because EA did really well at making james bond games and they made a sequal to my favourite james bond film in game format and the story and gameplay was fantastic so i have complete faith in them if they somehow got there hands on the back to the future franchise in fact they would bring it back out of its deep sleep.

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by Scnew

I'm not really sure what your point is, then. You do or you don't want there to be more Back to the Future crap?

"Back to the Future continuations tend to be awful" does not automatically equate to the macro "All continuations are awful".

[LuigiHann]

Obviously we want more Back to the Future non-crap.

[generalcabdriver45]

also i found out today that a bttf part 4 and 5 was being planned in 94-95 but when someone set fire to the backlot they gave up.

Im not sure this is is true as bob gale denys them ever planning 4 but then he is a bit blunt when it comes to bttf 4 questions.

but still imagine if this had happend imagine what would be happening now hell i wouldnt be on here because universal would be asking a games company that respects back to the future instead of telltale who just want to change what kind of games they sell and boost there companys profit.

[ryannumber1gamer]

ok rather dashing i want u to tell me which of these 2 pictures is the better game and see how much u think bttf the game is








tell me now wats better

[Scnew]

What I'm trying to say is that all franchises, particularly about one specific story or set of characters, seem to either a) get boring and fizzle out, or b) become nigh-unrecognizable. Doctor Who is the exception, not the rule. Nine times out of ten, resurrecting a dead franchise just doesn't work. Look at the often rumored Ghostbusters 3. I mean, does anyone really expect it to live up to the first one?

I don't really want either of those fates for Back to the Future or Ghostbusters. (Or Star Wars for that matter, but it's too late there.) I'd rather just have three movies that I love then have more and more and more thrown at me until I just don't care anymore. Let it just remain a couple classic movies that people will look on fondly, don't run it into the ground.

Besides, EA doesn't make adventure games. Unless you wanted Back to the Future: The First Person Shooter, Back to the Future: The RPG, or Back to the Future: The Action Platformer. Adventure games are really the only genre that lends itself to the kind of story Back to the Future tells. Marty doesn't run around shooting people, leveling up, or collecting power-ups. And while I agree that I think the game is not exactly top-notch, it's hard to argue against the idea that a couple years ago Telltale seemed like a great choice for it.

[Scnew]

Originally Posted by ryannumber1gamer

ok rather dashing i want u to tell me which of these 2 pictures is the better game and see how much u think bttf the game is








tell me now wats better

Arguing that the new game is good because it's better than the NES game is like arguing that vomit is delicious because it's better than eating a turd.

[generalcabdriver45]

Originally Posted by Scnew

Besides, EA doesn't make adventure games. Unless you wanted Back to the Future: The First Person Shooter, Back to the Future: The RPG, or Back to the Future: The Action Platformer. Adventure games are really the only genre that lends itself to the kind of story Back to the Future tells. Marty doesn't run around shooting people, leveling up, or collecting power-ups. And while I agree that I think the game is not exactly top-notch, it's hard to argue against the idea that a couple years ago Telltale seemed like a great choice for it.

Ea could make a adventure game and not some shitty point and click the toaster oven to gets docs plutonium supply to put in einsteins but.

telltale sucked at making this game and theres no buts its as simple as they screwed up and someone else should make the game who actully has seen the movies and knows what back to the future fans want instead of just adding failed puzzles which dont fit in at all.

if they had added more puzzles like where you have to put that light bulb thing in the delorean instead of guess who and then run over to the courthouse and give young doc a piece of paper which says this puzzle sucks on it then it would of been better.

EA make exciting fast paced games and could easily adapt to adventure games for the sake of back to the future but telltale will always make crap when it comes to back to the future.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Originally Posted by Scnew

Arguing that the new game is good because it's better than the NES game is like arguing that vomit is delicious because it's better than eating a turd.

yeah but the guy criticsizes everything in the game he has said it like 100 times that he hates the game on different threds even a telltale person said to someone on a sam and max therd that we get u didnt like the game but u dont need to keep posting it over and over and im not sure if this was exactly wat he said but it was something like it

[lukebrynycz]

Warning, warning! Troll detected. Please put your food away..

[ryannumber1gamer]

dute im not a troll i just dont like it when a person criticsizes everything about a game it would be different if there was no effort put in the game put telltale like every other game they made did put effort in it

[Nintendo Boy1]

Originally Posted by generalcabdriver45

so you think back to the future is crap?

And yes i want a decent respectfull game now i didnt say this but i think telltale are a great games company but they shouldnt be making a game for such a brilliant franchise like back to the future... EA or sommat should make it because EA did really well at making james bond games and they made a sequal to my favourite james bond film in game format and the story and gameplay was fantastic so i have complete faith in them if they somehow got there hands on the back to the future franchise in fact they would bring it back out of its deep sleep.

Are you fucking insane? Fuck EA. If EA got there hands on the Back to the Future liscense, chances is are it would be handled by EA bright light studios. then we'd probobaly get some rip-off call of duty like game with some chessy story-line ripped from the fims for a $49.99 game, and the game will probobaly be 3 hours long.

Which happened to another great franchise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGKOgJEsRWI

I don't want some chessy movie cash-in crap, I want something good.

[Macfly77]

First things first: are you the same generalcabdriver45 who's looking forward to the Deluxe Edition?
From your posts in this thread, I really can't figure out why...
Let's clarify a couple of things: I am a fan of Telltale's games (bought Bone in 2005, back when the download cost $19.99, and bought pretty much all of their games after that, most of them as pre-orders) and of the Back to the Future movies.
As for Back to the Future: The Game, I will be the first (OK, not the first, that would probably be Rather Dashing ) to admit that it is far from Telltale's finest hour.
Don't get me wrong: I loved the story, the acting, the music, and even the graphics, but the minimal interactivity/difficulty makes it hard for me to call it a "game" with a straight face.
However, I have no doubt that the "game" Telltale released is very close to what Universal expected when they agreed to let Telltale make it.
After all, if you're a big company (like Universal) with huge franchises (say Back to the Future or Jurassic Park) and you expect to make a bit of money with said franchises, you will probably take a look at the previous output of the company you're planning to associate with (let's see... who are those Telltale fellows and what games did they make before? Bone: point-n-click adventure game; Sam & Max: point-n-click adventure game; Strong Bad: point-n-click adventure game; Wallace & Gromit: walk-n-click adventure game; Tales of Monkey Island and The Devil's Playhouse: click-n-drag adventure games,... no, I don't see a pattern...).
Additionally, you are probably going to let those Telltale people know that you expect a certain number of sales (meaning: make sure the game can be played by people who don't know point from click) in order to possibly have a continuing partnership.
If you look at other threads in this forum, I bet that you will find more happy than unhappy people (it just looks like more unhappy people because Rather Dashing is everywhere!). You will probably also notice that amongst those happy people, there are probably more non-point-and-click gamers than point-and-click gamers, which means that Telltale probably did exactly what Universal was expecting from them.
One final point: in a previous post, you mention that Telltale just wants to change what games they make and boost their profit and that Universal should have asked a company that respects Back to the Future.
IMHO, Telltale showed a great respect to the Back to the Future franchise (I think that the game fits right in with the Back to the Future series), like they do all their franchises and find it kind of funny that most (all?) of your suggestions for alternate developers are Electronic Arts, a company who probably doesn't think in terms of profits .

[Scnew]

Originally Posted by generalcabdriver45

Ea could make a adventure game and not some shitty point and click the toaster oven to gets docs plutonium supply to put in einsteins but.

telltale sucked at making this game and theres no buts its as simple as they screwed up and someone else should make the game who actully has seen the movies and knows what back to the future fans want instead of just adding failed puzzles which dont fit in at all.

if they had added more puzzles like where you have to put that light bulb thing in the delorean instead of guess who and then run over to the courthouse and give young doc a piece of paper which says this puzzle sucks on it then it would of been better.

EA make exciting fast paced games and could easily adapt to adventure games for the sake of back to the future but telltale will always make crap when it comes to back to the future.

This doesn't make sense. The developers that work for EA don't make adventure games.

If you want an adventure game, you go to a company that's good at making adventure games.

"We want to make Back to the Future like the movies, a light hearted adventure with heavy emphasis on character, humor, and a bit of action. Let's hire the people that made Dead Space."

Plus I really don't understand how you can say Telltale didn't respect the property. You don't go and get Bob Gale, Chris Lloyd, and Michael J. Fox involved in order to intentionally crap out a sub par game.