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Spooky666 · 08/31/2011, 12:47 pm

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Personally, I think that'd be silly, and would not allow Guybrush to go on adventures the way he does now, except for saving his kids from dangers, which seems... boring.

Why? There is a grandpa.

Most of the time he could look after the children, while guybrush and elaine are going on adventures.

Okay, i see you don't like it.

Chyron8472 · 09/07/2011, 02:46 pm

Eww. Herman is not H.T. Marley.

Nope. He's a crazy old coot who surreptitiously wormed his way into becoming Governor of the Tri-Island area.

Yep.

I wouldn't want my kids being looked after by a guy who, among other things, walks around in public with no pants on.

AppDude27 · 10/08/2011, 10:01 am

Or what if Guybrush was transformed into a parrot and now Elaine has to help him turn back to normal? It wouldn't be the whole game, it would just be for like one episode, and once Guybrush is back to normal, he would be given an item that lets him turn into the parrot to solve puzzles whenever he needs to.

tbm1986 · 10/08/2011, 11:54 am

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Or what if Guybrush was transformed into a parrot and now Elaine has to help him turn back to normal? It wouldn't be the whole game, it would just be for like one episode, and once Guybrush is back to normal, he would be given an item that lets him turn into the parrot to solve puzzles whenever he needs to.

I like the outside-of-the-box thinking (it's what made S&M3 fun, after all), but I really don't think it would work with this IP. Due to there being a few pirate IPs out there now, I feel creating another one with this idea would lead into gallons of ~~Grog XD~~ plaigiarism (like more than we've had previously, which admittedly is hard to imagine).

Woodsyblue · 10/10/2011, 03:18 am

Monkey Island game with playable Elaine:
Use 'ability to kick ass and take names' with 'every puzzle in the game'.

Eh, that'd still be harder than Back to the Future

AppDude27 · 10/10/2011, 04:53 pm

Like it was mentioned earlier, Elaine needs a better character development foundation. In the first two games (Secret and LeChuck's Revenge) Elaine had very minor roles, if anything at all. Curse changed it because of the spell that she was under, but still Guybrush never really interacted with her until the end. Escape had more to do with Elaine, but she was occupied with saving her career and the adventure subsided.
Tales really made a huge change with Elaine's character, making her somewhat better than in previous games, but I think TellTale could do a lot better with her in future installments of the series.
And now that LeChuck is gone and Morgan is haunting the seas, it could potentially change the world of Monkey Island completely. What if Morgan falls in love with Guybrush?
It would be giving Guybrush an idea of what Elaine had to face with LeChuck for 5 games and counting.

Lexxbomb · 10/16/2011, 03:51 am

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What if Morgan falls in love with Guybrush?

what do you mean IF?... she already has.

AppDude27 · 10/23/2011, 06:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Lexxbomb

what do you mean IF?... she already has.

True! Morgan's crush on Guybrush could be a basis for the whole game. Guybrush can get an idea of what Elaine faced with LeChuck all these years.

Grojak · 10/24/2011, 01:48 pm

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True! Morgan's crush on Guybrush could be a basis for the whole game. Guybrush can get an idea of what Elaine faced with LeChuck all these years.

I personally got the feeling, that if and when there is a MI6, Morgan will be like LeChuck, but in the sense she will be after Guybrush the same way he's after Elaine. Tbh, it wouldn't surprise me if Morgan and LeChuck ended up working together to slit up Elaine and Guybrush.

Woodsyblue · 10/24/2011, 05:15 pm

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I personally got the feeling, that if and when there is a MI6, Morgan will be like LeChuck, but in the sense she will be after Guybrush the same way he's after Elaine. Tbh, it wouldn't surprise me if Morgan and LeChuck ended up working together to slit up Elaine and Guybrush.

Really? I got the impression that the Voodoo Lady was likely the new big bad.

Grojak · 10/26/2011, 12:54 pm

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Really? I got the impression that the Voodoo Lady was likely the new big bad.

Oh I agree. But I still think LeChuck and Morgan will be the initial villains (more like DeSinge was in Tales).

AppDude27 · 11/08/2011, 07:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Grojak

I personally got the feeling, that if and when there is a MI6, Morgan will be like LeChuck, but in the sense she will be after Guybrush the same way he's after Elaine. Tbh, it wouldn't surprise me if Morgan and LeChuck ended up working together to slit up Elaine and Guybrush.

Yeah that would be a very interesting plot change for the MI series and even future game installments beyond Tales. I think having Morgan as a villain in general would be an exciting twist. And her personality is a lot different than LeChuck. I mean she's very blunt, whereas LeChuck plans out his schemes in every game. They would make a really evil team now that I think about it...

Hayden · 11/10/2011, 01:57 am

Elaine being the main character for a game would not work, since she does not have the same charisma as Guybrush, and writing funny/interesting dialogue and commentary would be a whole lot harder for her. Guybrush is the perfect playable character, as he's basically a vehicle for funny jabs, comments and one-liners. It's the character of Guybrush which breathes a whole lot of life into the Monkey Island world. Doing things from Elaine's perspective would not be as fun, as interesting or as effective.

Elaine and Guybrush having children is a terrible idea, I think. For one thing, it's predictable and is an unimaginative direction to take the series. Also, it would restrict and tie down the series, to a degree, because it will bound two of the leading characters to a responsibility. And having the children be a 'mini-Guybrush' and a 'mini-Elaine' would just be incredibly corny and just downright inane.

Having Morgan as a definitive villain would not work either, as it would defy a lot of her actions in the later chapters of 'Tales of Monkey Island'.

Also, the best way to mix up the formula is simply to have a new villain. LeChuck's the reason why the series' main plot is becoming so repetitious. He's the reason why Elaine keeps getting kidnapped, he's the reason why Guybrush's main aim at the end of every game is to find a way to kill him (obviously), and he's the one who is constantly forcing the formula into a repetitive cycle. Yeah, we all love LeChuck, but it's time to keep him dead on this occasion, unless we all want to have the same core story and character motivation in the next game.

The series needs to be refreshed in some way to prevent things from becoming stale, but new playable characters, change of allegiances, and the introduction of children into the story - these are not the ways to do it.

AppDude27 · 11/21/2011, 08:32 am

I still think that having Elaine as the main character, even for ONE episode, would still a nice and refreshing change. She may not be as funny or witty as Guybrush, and she probably won't be as funny and witty as Guybrush. That's not who she is, however I don't think her lack of humor should detract the idea that she can't be a playable character.

As for Guybrush and Elaine having kids for a future game, I'm also not too fond of the idea; however, I'm still open to it. I mean as long as the kids aren't the center purpose of the adventure itself and they're at least integrated into the plot as not a factor that holds the characters back, then I would be fine with it.

I completely agree with LeChuck being overdone as a villain. LeChuck is almost as synonymous as Bowser from Mario Bros or Gannon from Zelda. Monkey Island does need a new villain, and by the look of the last game, I think they may have one. I wouldn't mind having Morgan as a villain at all. She's essentially a female LeChuck!

Anyways I understand that having Elaine as the main character of the series would be asking for too much, but having her as a playable character for an episode, or even just specific parts that need her would be a new and refreshing change.

Lexxbomb · 11/28/2011, 06:52 pm

lol maybe have Elaine of Guybrush turned into children...
I imagine a scene in which adult Guybrush/Elaine has to collect/ manage 5-7 child versions of their partner due to a voodoo curse and the curse has each child being an aspect of the adult character... so we could explore the facetes of each character...

imagine Guybrush having to deal with small 6 year old versions of Elaine that each focus on one character trait, the manipulator (Govenor), The Swashbuckler (Likes to fight alot), The Lovey Dovey, The Smart Arse...and each would have interesting Banter with the main Character and have to be used/'collected to solved the curse... could be fun.

AppDude27 · 11/29/2011, 04:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Lexxbomb

lol maybe have Elaine of Guybrush turned into children...
I imagine a scene in which adult Guybrush/Elaine has to collect/ manage 5-7 child versions of their partner due to a voodoo curse and the curse has each child being an aspect of the adult character... so we could explore the facetes of each character...

imagine Guybrush having to deal with small 6 year old versions of Elaine that each focus on one character trait, the manipulator (Govenor), The Swashbuckler (Likes to fight alot), The Lovey Dovey, The Smart Arse...and each would have interesting Banter with the main Character and have to be used/'collected to solved the curse... could be fun.

That actually sounds like a really humorous plot line! That way Elaine could be fleshed out better and there would be a reason to going through the Caribbean all over again. I don't know about the kids aspect of it; I mean if Elaine just broke up into 6 versions of herself, I would be fine with that.

I was also thinking, what if Guybrush lost his memory accidentally and he's manipulated into believing that he's a villain and Elaine has to bring his memory back?

Olaus Petrus · 12/01/2011, 02:02 am

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I never liked adventure games where you have to switch character based on the story.
Only as part of the gameplay, like in Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade, or in the Goblins series. I liked all characters, and after all they're so similar it's like the same character anyway.

But I hated to be forced to play whole chapters as Gina in Runaway, as Nico in Broken Sword and as Max in Secret Files: Tunguska. Heck I wasn't even a big fan of playing as Max in Sam & Max S3, but at least that part was short enough.
A good adventure game main character is not easy to create, and having a game series with TWO main characters is in my experience impossible.

It seems that we have opposite views about this issue. I haven't played Runaway, but I don't mind playing as Nico (I like both heroes) in BS games or Max (although Nina is my favourite of the two.) in SF series. Still best pair of heroes in adventure game history are Gabriel Knight and Grace Nakimura from GK2 and 3, because their different points of view serve the story and both are interesting characters. In GK3 Grace's Le Serpent Rouge -puzzle which lasted several chapters is one of the best ones in adventure game history.

However when it comes to Monkey Island I can't see anyone except Guybrush as the main hero. Only thing which I would find acceptable is that you could switch between two characters to solve a single puzzle.

Lexxbomb · 12/02/2011, 01:48 am

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That actually sounds like a really humorous plot line! That way Elaine could be fleshed out better and there would be a reason to going through the Caribbean all over again. I don't know about the kids aspect of it; I mean if Elaine just broke up into 6 versions of herself, I would be fine with that.

THIS HERE telltale should be the next season of Monkey Island... get on it.

AppDude27 · 04/22/2012, 05:48 pm

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THIS HERE telltale should be the next season of Monkey Island... get on it.

Haha, it DEFINITELY needs to be the next season of the Monkey Island game!! I would for sure buy this game!

MonkeyMania · 04/23/2012, 03:13 pm

Monkey Island without Guybrush Threepwood would be like Star Wars without Luke Skywalker, and we know how the prequels turned out.

10/10/2011, 03:18 am	#25
Woodsyblue First Child Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1,363	Monkey Island game with playable Elaine: Use 'ability to kick ass and take names' with 'every puzzle in the game'. Eh, that'd still be harder than Back to the Future __________________ "Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some massive internal hemorrhaging to attended to."

11/28/2011, 06:52 pm	#35
Lexxbomb Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 21	lol maybe have Elaine of Guybrush turned into children... I imagine a scene in which adult Guybrush/Elaine has to collect/ manage 5-7 child versions of their partner due to a voodoo curse and the curse has each child being an aspect of the adult character... so we could explore the facetes of each character... imagine Guybrush having to deal with small 6 year old versions of Elaine that each focus on one character trait, the manipulator (Govenor), The Swashbuckler (Likes to fight alot), The Lovey Dovey, The Smart Arse...and each would have interesting Banter with the main Character and have to be used/'collected to solved the curse... could be fun. Last edited by Lexxbomb; 11/28/2011 at 06:57 pm.

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09/07/2011, 02:46 pm	#22
Chyron8472 Killer Walrus Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 4,071	Eww. Herman is not H.T. Marley. Nope. He's a crazy old coot who surreptitiously wormed his way into becoming Governor of the Tri-Island area. Yep. I wouldn't want my kids being looked after by a guy who, among other things, walks around in public with no pants on.

10/08/2011, 10:01 am	#23
AppDude27 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 15	Or what if Guybrush was transformed into a parrot and now Elaine has to help him turn back to normal? It wouldn't be the whole game, it would just be for like one episode, and once Guybrush is back to normal, he would be given an item that lets him turn into the parrot to solve puzzles whenever he needs to.

10/10/2011, 04:53 pm	#26
AppDude27 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 15	Like it was mentioned earlier, Elaine needs a better character development foundation. In the first two games (Secret and LeChuck's Revenge) Elaine had very minor roles, if anything at all. Curse changed it because of the spell that she was under, but still Guybrush never really interacted with her until the end. Escape had more to do with Elaine, but she was occupied with saving her career and the adventure subsided. Tales really made a huge change with Elaine's character, making her somewhat better than in previous games, but I think TellTale could do a lot better with her in future installments of the series. And now that LeChuck is gone and Morgan is haunting the seas, it could potentially change the world of Monkey Island completely. What if Morgan falls in love with Guybrush? It would be giving Guybrush an idea of what Elaine had to face with LeChuck for 5 games and counting.

11/10/2011, 01:57 am	#33
Hayden ...is procrastinating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 3,486	Elaine being the main character for a game would not work, since she does not have the same charisma as Guybrush, and writing funny/interesting dialogue and commentary would be a whole lot harder for her. Guybrush is the perfect playable character, as he's basically a vehicle for funny jabs, comments and one-liners. It's the character of Guybrush which breathes a whole lot of life into the Monkey Island world. Doing things from Elaine's perspective would not be as fun, as interesting or as effective. Elaine and Guybrush having children is a terrible idea, I think. For one thing, it's predictable and is an unimaginative direction to take the series. Also, it would restrict and tie down the series, to a degree, because it will bound two of the leading characters to a responsibility. And having the children be a 'mini-Guybrush' and a 'mini-Elaine' would just be incredibly corny and just downright inane. Having Morgan as a definitive villain would not work either, as it would defy a lot of her actions in the later chapters of 'Tales of Monkey Island'. Also, the best way to mix up the formula is simply to have a new villain. LeChuck's the reason why the series' main plot is becoming so repetitious. He's the reason why Elaine keeps getting kidnapped, he's the reason why Guybrush's main aim at the end of every game is to find a way to kill him (obviously), and he's the one who is constantly forcing the formula into a repetitive cycle. Yeah, we all love LeChuck, but it's time to keep him dead on this occasion, unless we all want to have the same core story and character motivation in the next game. The series needs to be refreshed in some way to prevent things from becoming stale, but new playable characters, change of allegiances, and the introduction of children into the story - these are not the ways to do it.

11/21/2011, 08:32 am	#34
AppDude27 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 15	I still think that having Elaine as the main character, even for ONE episode, would still a nice and refreshing change. She may not be as funny or witty as Guybrush, and she probably won't be as funny and witty as Guybrush. That's not who she is, however I don't think her lack of humor should detract the idea that she can't be a playable character. As for Guybrush and Elaine having kids for a future game, I'm also not too fond of the idea; however, I'm still open to it. I mean as long as the kids aren't the center purpose of the adventure itself and they're at least integrated into the plot as not a factor that holds the characters back, then I would be fine with it. I completely agree with LeChuck being overdone as a villain. LeChuck is almost as synonymous as Bowser from Mario Bros or Gannon from Zelda. Monkey Island does need a new villain, and by the look of the last game, I think they may have one. I wouldn't mind having Morgan as a villain at all. She's essentially a female LeChuck! Anyways I understand that having Elaine as the main character of the series would be asking for too much, but having her as a playable character for an episode, or even just specific parts that need her would be a new and refreshing change.

04/23/2012, 03:13 pm	#40
MonkeyMania Is it in you? Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: United States Posts: 388	Monkey Island without Guybrush Threepwood would be like Star Wars without Luke Skywalker, and we know how the prequels turned out.