The Silver Lining thread

[Irishmile]

Keep your debate respectful.. there is no reason for name calling... It is possible to disagree without being rude...

[zhebrica]

Originally Posted by Lambonius

free game

Originally Posted by caeska

not getting what you're paying for

?????

[Lambonius]

Hahaha...right. And what exactly did you pay for it again?

[wilco64256]

I'm also tremendously curious about the "paid for" part. Exactly how much did you pay for TSL? By your own statement, you've never even created an account on our website so you haven't even downloaded the game period. So what exactly are you complaining about anyway? Something you weren't going to play not being done when you heard it was going to be done?

[Blackthorne519]

Sure, you can have a civil conversation. But this dude's being a bitch. I can literally see his swarthy body dripping with raging nerd sweat.


"I DEMAND MY FREE GAME!"

Sorry you find it so "unacceptable". Now here's a handkerchief to mop up your tears, man up, wait a couple days and play your free game.

Bt

[wilco64256]

I now find this thread hilarious.

[caeska]

Originally Posted by wilco64256

I'm also tremendously curious about the "paid for" part. Exactly how much did you pay for TSL? By your own statement, you've never even created an account on our website so you haven't even downloaded the game period. So what exactly are you complaining about anyway? Something you weren't going to play not being done when you heard it was going to be done?

I don't understand what creating an account has to do with downloading the game episodes. I certainly can't recall ever creating one, and even if I have the forums and its discussions have no appeal or interest to me due to them appearing to be extremely unconstructive, which is why I won't bother.

So how can you say I haven't played your game when I have in fact played through the 3 episodes twice? There is something about that that makes no sense whatsoever.
And the cost of the game can be measured in the insanely large amounts of time and energy expended in both playing it and wasting time here pointing out its positive and negative aspects, which it is obvious that people seem intent on ignoring anyway. Just because it doesn't involve pure financial expenses doesn't mean to say there's no cost involved. Sheesh.

Now if people could stop with the name-calling and blatant disregard for forum etiquette and accept that overly late releases is NOT a done deal, it would be much appreciated.

[Irishmile]

OK... caeska its a game that they put a ton of love and effort into without financial compensation.. If they are late give them a break... I dont care if its a year late... what they are doing for fans of KQ is great and appreciated.

Everyone else stop baiting him...

Debate all you want but name calling ends now MMMKAY?

[wilco64256]

ITT - somebody cries because a game that's being made entirely by volunteers in their spare time took a few days longer than anticipated to finish up and he calls it being "overly" late.

Seriously though - not one other single person has complained about the release needing one extra week to make sure we do things as nicely as possible for the final game we're ever going to do in our current engine. I really don't understand why you're so incredibly upset - major commercial titles are often delayed far longer than this. I'd say getting a team of 70+ volunteers to finish something off only a week behind schedule is pretty freaking impressive.

[Lambonius]

Originally Posted by caeska

And the cost of the game can be measured in the insanely large amounts of time and energy expended in both playing it and wasting time here pointing out its positive and negative aspects

In honor of your valuable time:

[Blackthorne519]

There's a lot of white whine up in this thread.

And the cost of the game can be measured in the insanely large amounts of time and energy expended in both playing it and wasting time here pointing out its positive and negative aspects, which it is obvious that people seem intent on ignoring anyway. Just because it doesn't involve pure financial expenses doesn't mean to say there's no cost involved. Sheesh.

This is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard. Have you ever experienced ANY kind of real hardship in life? Seriously, the privilege of your position bleeds through everything you say. Playing it and COMMENTING about it COSTS YOU SOMETHING? Seriously, bite the big one, dude.



Bt

[Chyron8472]

Blackthorne has a point.

Speaking for myself, I'm not particularly interested in TSL given that it's apparently filled with much more drama and melancholy than the King's Quest franchise is known for.

I can appreciate the amount of time and effort put into a project, especially one that is available for free, but TSL's style isn't really my thing.

[MusicallyInspired]

You need to make an account on the POS website (not the forums) in order to download the game. That's the only way you can officially get it.

The "cost of being a fan and commenting" crap is quite a ridiculous argument.

[Cez]

Originally Posted by Chyron8472

Blackthorne has a point.

Speaking for myself, I'm not particularly interested in TSL given that it's apparently filled with much more drama and melancholy than the King's Quest franchise is known for.

I can appreciate the amount of time and effort put into a project, especially one that is available for free, but TSL's style isn't really my thing.

Of course I'm going to speak in pro of the game (duh!), but a lot of people have enjoyed TSL's gameplay (especially in episode 3) as a real throw back and challenge close to the Sierra days.

While I won't deny to you that there's a heavier drama tone than any past King's Quest, TSL also has its very lighthearted and adventurous side. There are also elements of it that have been well praised, like the music and the "attention to detail" 3D revamped Green Isles. If you like the Green Isles, there's also our view of what lies beyond some of the lands (Inside Chessboard land, past the gate of the Beast castle, inside the city of the Winged Ones, etc).

Yes, there's a dark tone that you may consider doesn't fit in a King's Quest game, but in all honesty, Tales of Monkey Isle also has its very dark moments (like the whole of Episode 4) that you don't see anywhere else in the series. TSL is not all about that tone either. it does have a collection of throwback moments that even the people that have had problems with its tone have thoroughly enjoyed.

Episode 1 was not really a good first impression. Give 2 and 3 a try, and then make up your mind. That's all I ask

I'd also recommend waiting until this sunday and grabbing the whole build of ep1-4 which contains all of the Green Isles and the culmination of our work in many ways (since Ep45 will take place in the Dreamworld, and will employ a new engine). It's also more stable since we killed a bug that was causing random crashes to some machines.

You can see the trailer to Episode 4 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hEnP...eature=related

[wilco64256]

Originally Posted by Cez

since Ep45 will take place in the Dreamworld

The other 41 episodes from now til then will continue to take place in the Green Isles. We have 10 whole episodes solely dedicated to Graham counseling people who are depressed.

[Lambonius]

Originally Posted by wilco64256

The other 41 episodes from now til then will continue to take place in the Green Isles. We have 10 whole episodes solely dedicated to Graham counseling people who are depressed.

Lol...Not funny.

Originally Posted by Cez

Yes, there's a dark tone that you may consider doesn't fit in a King's Quest game, but in all honesty, Tales of Monkey Isle also has its very dark moments (like the whole of Episode 4) that you don't see anywhere else in the series.

Let's see...Tales of Monkey Island Episode 4...that was the one set at night, wasn't it? Is that what you mean?

[Cez]

Originally Posted by Lambonius

Lol...Not funny.



Let's see...Tales of Monkey Island Episode 4...that was the one set at night, wasn't it? Is that what you mean?

lol no. I mean...

no spoilers tags here? Or am I too tired to see it?


SPOILERS***






Guybrush and Morgan murdered by stabbing, plus the whole stuff going on with the Voodoo lady is not exactly your definition of lightness. If I recall correctly, Monkey Island never really treated that stuff as serious as it was handled in ep4. But I could be wrong.


END OF SPOILERS**

[Cez]

[QUOTE=Cez;553983]lol no. I mean...

no spoilers tags here? Or am I too tired to see it?


Guybrush and Morgan murdered by stabbing, plus the whole stuff going on with the Voodoo lady is not exactly your definition of lightness. If I recall correctly, Monkey Island never really treated that stuff as serious as it was handled in ep4. But I could be wrong.


I'm not drawing a parallel or using it as an excuse. I'm proud of what we've done with TSL, and we all like the tone in our team. We feel it fits what we wanted to do and the statement we wanted to give about the type of games we want to make. There are things I'd redo if I could, but the tone is not one of them. I will say, however, that I do understand it's not the tone I'd give a King's Quest if we didn't have the "freedom" of being a fan project.

[Woodsyblue]

Originally Posted by Cez

no spoilers tags here? Or am I too tired to see it?

There are spoiler tags here. Just write "spoiler" in square brackets (without the quotation marks, obviously), followed by spoilery information, followed by "/spoiler" in square brackets. Like this

[Cez]

Originally Posted by Woodsyblue

There are spoiler tags here. Just write "spoiler" in square brackets (without the quotation marks, obviously), followed by spoilery information, followed by "/spoiler" in square brackets. Like this

Thanks!!

been too sleep depraved for the past two weeks!