IGN's Review

[Asian Inferno]

"Besides the times when I didn't notice I had switched perspectives and was now controlling someone else in the room, I didn't like not knowing these characters on a deeper level. Telltale games -- and adventure games in general -- are about getting wrapped up in a story and making choices as that person. Jumping between characters means motivations get cloudy and no one is fleshed out beyond a standard stereotype. There's a bad girl, a badass mercenary, a wise-cracking soldier and so on. In the end, I didn't care who I was in control of because it didn't matter. The plot was going to move in the same direction regardless of who uttered what. "
I don't understand this criticism, most of the people who played this game enjoyed the story, you DID get to know more about the characters through those interactions, and what may have started as stereotype characters from the start quickly moved to something outside of the form and not a straight copy of some archetype.

Although I would have wished that the dialogue was more interactive in that it could minutely change the story based on your actions, it was a good first attempt. Telltale should look towards the criticism and move forward in that regard.

[sockableclaw]

Originally Posted by caeska

That's a terrible idea. This game was never meant to be a GTA: Isla Nublar

Oh yeah, that's a really horrible idea. Nobody would ever play a Jurassic Park like that, and it wouldn't sell any copies.</sarcasm>

And are you telling me that if a JP game like that came out, you wouldn't play it? LOL don't lie, you know you would.

[BitToTheFuture]

I think these reviews are done by people who have never seen the original film.
I LOVE literally the entire saga and (trying to be objective) this game IS Jurassic Park, is what i wanted to feel returning to Isla Nublar, independently of my love for the movies.

There's all. Dinosaurs, places, vehicles, people references, interaction, ecc. ecc. but above all there's the original Jurassic Park atmosphere, the situations...

So, I sure would like to play a sand box game inspired by the film, but THIS Telltale game has the ability to represent the true atmosphere of the film... The strong point of this TTgame is the story and how it is told, with an unusual gameplay BUT perfect for reliving the real feeling of Jurassic Park.

[Johro]

The thing with IGN is that their reviews tend to side with hype. GTA 4 got 10/10, same with MGS4 and many other games that people talk high of before they come out(go check out how they rated the titles released this past month too). It's almost like they start rating those games at a 9 and go up and down from there. While both the games I mentioned were fun, neither is in my top 20 of all time. Seriously, GTA4 isnt even my favourite GTA game.

[anthoto1]

Is this topic Paranoid Park ? All the legit websites that have already published a review are bashing the game big time. It will eventually get a terrible score on Metacritic.

[Phoenix123]

Did he just call Nedry "Newmen" in that video review?!

[Vainamoinen]

Originally Posted by Lambonius

Did any of you guys actually READ the review? This reviewer points out some very real and valid problems with the game, both from a fundamental design standpoint, and a storytelling standpoint.

I see that as well. Nonetheless, his most striking point IS the gameplay, where Zeros' comment comes into play:

Originally Posted by ZerosTheWizard

I find it a bit unfair to review a game because that game is not the genre you would have preferred it to be, it should be based on the game as it is. It would be like saying "i didnt like call of duty because its not an adventure game" or "i didnt like world of warcraft because its not a first person shooter".

I see the problem, though I'm not sure how the situation can be remedied. It's true that many reviewers give some genres less favorable reviews, but they are seldom that biased that they hand out 50% ratings like candy just because it's a certain game genre. But reviews are always subjective, and reviewers always have to give their subjective impression whether they like a game or not. That's why I find the IGN review to be at least a valid one for the purpose of discussion.

It is, however, not a surprising result from this site. IGN had looked at the game at PAX and voiced its concerns already (as was discussed in the "IGN is worried..." thread on this forum).

Originally Posted by anthoto1

Is this topic Paranoid Park ? All the legit websites that have already published a review are bashing the game big time. It will eventually get a terrible score on Metacritic.

Would you mind to post links to those "legit" websites?
I'd be really interested.

[anthoto1]

Originally Posted by T002Tyrant

closeted men who beat off to space marines in high def....

Which is why they gave Heavy Rain a 9. Isn't this game the one Telltale based JPTG gameplay upon ?

Stop being delusional, JPTH is getting, at best, average scores which, in the videogame industry, means that the game is REALLY disappointing.

[anthoto1]

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen

Would you mind to post links to those "legit" websites?
I'd be really interested.

Check on 1UP or Game Informer. The game is likely to get, at best, a 60 on Metacritic (and I'm being pretty generous here), which is terrible for in this industry.

[caeska]

Originally Posted by sockableclaw

Oh yeah, that's a really horrible idea. Nobody would ever play a Jurassic Park like that, and it wouldn't sell any copies.</sarcasm>

And are you telling me that if a JP game like that came out, you wouldn't play it? LOL don't lie, you know you would.

I would never play a game like that. I'd much rather drill a hole in my head than play a GTA-like Jurassic Park, as that would be more rewarding and much more fun.

[Terpor]

I wonder if this is true

http://www.gamespot.com/features/jur...ll%3Btitle%3B2

[Vainamoinen]

Originally Posted by Terpor

I wonder if this is true

http://www.gamespot.com/features/jur...ll%3Btitle%3B2

Already discussed here.

[BlankCanvasDJ]

Originally Posted by caeska

I'd much rather drill a hole in my head than play a GTA-like Jurassic Park, as that would be more rewarding and much more fun.

That would have worked if we hadn't stopped you.

[Drowning witch]

Originally Posted by anthoto1

Stop being delusional, JPTH is getting, at best, average scores which, in the videogame industry, means that the game is REALLY disappointing.

I find it more dissapointing that people need opinion of others to find enjoyment in a product. I can't even remember how many amazing games i've played that have received mediocre scores, and how many awful games I've played that received 9+ scores.

[Johro]

Originally Posted by Drowning witch

I find it more dissapointing that people need opinion of others to find enjoyment in a product. I can't even remember how many amazing games i've played that have received mediocre scores, and how many awful games I've played that received 9+ scores.

Well that's why a proper review discusses the aspects of the game and opinion is supposed to come secondary. Not start off with opinion and sprinkling it throughout your article. While some points were quite valid, some were not. The point about being able to randomly select objects and dialogue, again, valid...but who the hell does that. No wonder the writer couldn't get immersed into the game. As previously stated, this game was obviously not the reviewer's preferred style of gameplay, but a good writer will not let that shine through their article. The game appeals to a certain demographic and I wouldn't be surprised if the average gamer only rated this around 6. That is why you discuss HOW the game is played, what kind of game it is, what demographic it is intended for and make comparisons in style. THIS is what interested buyers want to read about...not the fact you didn't like it.

The review is just badly done...and it isn't the first time I've seen this from IGN. Their articles can be very amusing and interesting, but their reviews always seem slanted and that isn't professional, it's tabloid journalism.

[Lambonius]

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen

I see that as well. Nonetheless, his most striking point IS the gameplay, where Zeros' comment comes into play:

Yeah, but that's just it, the game is advertised as an "adventure game", a specific genre of game with specific expectations for gameplay and design, and he basically points out several ways JP doesn't live up to these expectations.

[Shadowknight1]

Originally Posted by T002Tyrant

Let's face it, IGN are a bunch of adolescent 360 playing, closeted men who beat off to space marines in high def.... They'll give a 9/10 to anything that has a man with large muscles sweating and grappling with other men....

PS: Anyone thinking I'm making a serious attempt at discrediting IGN. There should be a switch that says push to close, push it and your brain should be re-attached to your spinal chord.....Remember they'll give 9/10s to things with large breasted women in too, they have to keep up appearances :P

They did give The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword a 10/10 and it has neither.

[sockableclaw]

Originally Posted by caeska

I would never play a game like that. I'd much rather drill a hole in my head than play a GTA-like Jurassic Park, as that would be more rewarding and much more fun.

So are you telling me you wouldn't love to explore the entire island? Why WOULDN'T anyone like that?

You saying that a GTA-like Jurassic Park is a terrible idea is like saying that hot fudge chocolate sundaes are terrible. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

[HooblaDGN]

While I did find myself enjoying the game, I also have to agree with their criticisms of it. They're certainly valid points.

[Booflax]

Originally Posted by Johro

The thing with IGN is that their reviews tend to side with hype. GTA 4 got 10/10, same with MGS4 and many other games that people talk high of before they come out(go check out how they rated the titles released this past month too). It's almost like they start rating those games at a 9 and go up and down from there. While both the games I mentioned were fun, neither is in my top 20 of all time. Seriously, GTA4 isnt even my favourite GTA game.

MGS4 is definitely in my top ten best games ever. Actually I just put the entire MGS series at my number 1 spot, it's my favorite series for it's extremely high quality gameplay, constant innovation, and really great story. See? Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it was just a "hyped" up score it didn't deserve. I'm pretty sure the hype has worn off by this point, being several years later, and I still give MGS4 a 10/10.

As for GTAIV, it's hard to argue that game wasn't extremely well made and Rockstar just took it even further with Red Dead Redemption. Rockstar deserves every bit of praise it gets. They consistently put out high quality products.

Listen guys, quit making excuses, if IGN or any other reviewer didn't like Jurassic Park but you did, then just forget about it. You already bought the damn game anyway, why are you reading reviews for crying out loud.

Gamers are far too obsessed with reviews, it's ridiculous really.