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Old 11/21/2011, 03:37 pm   #21
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Wait, there's different endings? How many?
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Old 11/21/2011, 04:07 pm   #22
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Wait, there's different endings? How many?
Two all dealing with Nima's choice to save Jess or save the Barbosol can. Actually scratch that three, one more if Gerry doesn't get on the boat.
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Old 11/21/2011, 04:36 pm   #23
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I personally like Nima's death ending better.
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Old 11/21/2011, 04:38 pm   #24
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i like save Nima ending.

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Old 11/21/2011, 04:40 pm   #25
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I like the ending where Nima dies, because it's not as corny, and shows that life isn't perfect.
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Old 11/21/2011, 11:00 pm   #26
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I like the ending where Nima dies, because it's not as corny, and shows that life isn't perfect.
Then why not the fake-out ending where Gerry gets chomped by Rexy just before jumping to the boat, we see the boat sailing off with a despondent Jess all alone while Rexy roars triumphantly?
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Old 11/22/2011, 08:41 am   #27
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Nima was also hired by BioSyn, so she knew where the boat would be. And I don't think Billy knew there was money on the boat and if he killed the guy on the boat it was because he didn't want any survivors knowing he was alive.
I can't see how does that work, sorry. Part of it I understand - Miles told Dodgson to send another boat and he shared that with Nima. (How she knew the boat would moor at the north dock is a mystery too)

But then why would Billy kill the guy who is suppose to pay him? Why would he even want the can if the guy who was to pay him is now dead?

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Old 11/22/2011, 04:46 pm   #28
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It's entirely possible that Bionsyn just left the boat instead of waiting around for Nima and Miles to get there (though if that were the case, you'd think they'd have kept the money on the mainland).
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Old 11/22/2011, 05:06 pm   #29
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I definitely prefer the ending where Nima is alive, because by the end of the game her and the Hardings really seem protective of one another. They definitely bonded. And although her daughter's need for the money is VERY strong, I don't think the Nima that we got to know would choose the can over Jess in that moment. I also like that the can got crushed like it did because it gave that damn can a "finality", lol. It's story was now complete, and sadly ended up not benefiting anybody, just like it should.

It is, however, fun to experience the Nima dies ending for the extra closure between Jess and Gerry that you don't get in the better ending.
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Old 11/22/2011, 08:30 pm   #30
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I can't see how does that work, sorry. Part of it I understand - Miles told Dodgson to send another boat and he shared that with Nima. (How she knew the boat would moor at the north dock is a mystery too)

But then why would Billy kill the guy who is suppose to pay him? Why would he even want the can if the guy who was to pay him is now dead?
No one was supposed to pay Billy for the can, he was hired by INgen to rescue survivors, not by BioSyn who wanted the embryos. He only found out about the can because he forced Nima, who was hired by BioSyn, to tell him about it.

There are two possibilities to what happened to the guy on the boat, either he was killed by dinosaurs or Billy. If he was killed by Billy then it is likely Billy didn't know there was money on the boat, otherwise he wouldn't have come back for the can. If Billy did get the can I'm not sure what he was planning on doing with it, after all he didn't know who Nima's contacts were. It's likely he was just hoping to be able to sell it to the highest bidder.
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Old 11/23/2011, 03:49 am   #31
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Since Nima told Billy her plan it was their intention to get to the boat and deliver the can to the contact, while Oscar would rescue the survivors. I cannot understand why would Billy kill the guy that would pay him for the can and then go after the can when there won't be anybody to pay him for it anymore.

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Old 11/23/2011, 04:14 am   #32
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I liked the Nima living ending, it's really nice. But when she dies, you figure out that Gerry and Jesse are now together again.
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Old 11/23/2011, 05:44 am   #33
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The boat that they escape on was the boast Miles and Nima were supposed to meet up with, should they have to go in and extract Nedry (which, they did). Billy knew about it because Nima told him about it. The money was meant to be Nima's payment. And unless some dialog changed that explained otherwise that I missed an update on, Billy didn't kill the guys on the boat - they were eaten by dinosaurs.

And I personally find the ending with just Gerry and Jess the more emotionally satisfying of the two. Tho I really wanted to have a 3rd ending where if you miss the last button for Gerry, Jess sails off on her own and the game ends, but I guess people thought that was too cruel.
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Old 11/23/2011, 05:59 am   #34
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The boat that they escape on was the boast Miles and Nima were supposed to meet up with, should they have to go in and extract Nedry (which, they did). Billy knew about it because Nima told him about it. The money was meant to be Nima's payment. And unless some dialog changed that explained otherwise that I missed an update on, Billy didn't kill the guys on the boat - they were eaten by dinosaurs.
It isn't exactly explicit what kill the guys on the boat since the characters imply both things - they're either killed by dinosaurs or Billy - but with stronger implication that Billy did it. Thank you for clear this up.
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Old 11/23/2011, 09:11 am   #35
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It isn't exactly explicit what kill the guys on the boat since the characters imply both things - they're either killed by dinosaurs or Billy - but with stronger implication that Billy did it. Thank you for clear this up.
How is there a stronger implication that Billy did it? There's no evidence to support that.

Thanks for the clarification bubbledncr. I guessed that much from reading between the lines, but I guess it has to be spelled out for some people.
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Old 11/24/2011, 10:56 am   #36
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There was always a 2nd boat mentioned in films and the game. Nedry was to take the cannister to his contact (aka that annoying guy at start of game) on the east dock. Then BioSyn was sending a boat to the North Dock for him to get off the island and recieve his payment.

Throughout the game this is why Nima wanted to travel North and they kept mentioning reaching the boat (which couldn't be the freighter as that was evacuated, as shown by the need for rescue teams and the fact they said they were leaving in 5 minutes before we left the dock and as it was at the east dock, why would be trying to head north?).

Therefore the bag of money is quite obviously the second half of Nedry's payment, hence the same style of bag as he got the first half in during the film and the biosyn contact bringing the boat probably got eaten by the rex, hence him being in the area when they all arrive.
The second boat we see in the game is never mentioned in the film (or the book): Nedry's not even supposed to leave the island after he'd dropped of the canister.

Nedry's plan was simple: turn off the alarm systems, fences and phones. Leave with the excuse of getting a snack (and possibly a bathroom visit); Arnold, Hammond and Muldoon wouldn't panic straight away, knowing Nedry is still working on all the systems and he did warn them some systems might be turned off and on again during the process.
Nedry has time to steal the embryos as Arnold, Hammond and Muldoon are still in the control room, take a vehicle and drive to the dock, hand the canister to the contact on the dock, receive his money and return to the Visitor's Center. He then could restore the system and everything would be back to normal within fifteen minutes. A pretty solid plan, but no one considered or expected the possibility of a storm causing trouble.

The contact on the boat is most likely the man he's talking to on the phone, an unnamed, but most likely disgruntled, INGEN employee. For the game, this man became Miles.
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Old 11/24/2011, 02:48 pm   #37
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Even if it's somewhat cruel and not entirely logical, I like the bad ending because it brings more closure to Jess and Gerry, and it's less perfect.

I say entirely, because you have to remember that as far as Nima knew, that barbasol can was the only chance her daughter had, so it makes some sense for her to go after the shaving cream in such a desperate moment.

I'd be more accepting of Nima's ending if it didn't have the bag.

For future referece, Telltale, try to make more variations in the story depending on the player input.
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Old 11/24/2011, 03:32 pm   #38
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This. It doesnt matter where you want conversations to go, you just plug away until you get to where the game wants its story to go. Which makes it feel very forced. e.g. the first conversation billy has with nima about the can. You can keep having Billy answer that he cant trust her and hes here to save people instead, but the game still forces you to pick every conversation line until you hit the one that is obviously 'about the money' or whatever.
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Old 11/28/2011, 05:26 pm   #39
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I personally liked the good ending, as it kinda gave closure to the game. The one where Nima died didn't feel right...it just kinda ended. I kept expecting more, but the credits rolled.
Haven't seen the ending with just Jess yet, I'll have to check it out.

On a related note, wasn't Nublar supposed to be bombed? I don't recall seeing that happen. It's kinda odd to just assume it happened, that would've made a good finale. (Though I always imagined ever since I first saw the movie that they left the island abandoned, and perhaps a later movie would revisit what's left.)
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I personally liked the good ending, as it kinda gave closure to the game. The one where Nima died didn't feel right...it just kinda ended. I kept expecting more, but the credits rolled.
Haven't seen the ending with just Jess yet, I'll have to check it out.

On a related note, wasn't Nublar supposed to be bombed? I don't recall seeing that happen. It's kinda odd to just assume it happened, that would've made a good finale. (Though I always imagined ever since I first saw the movie that they left the island abandoned, and perhaps a later movie would revisit what's left.)
I think they realized that if they actually showed the island getting bombed, it'd be kinda depressing.
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