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Old 12/20/2011, 07:04 pm   #61
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It really is. If you love gaming (and other nerdy) in-jokes, you'll love this game. Everything is a reference to something.

And now, I'm off to get the expansion.
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Old 12/20/2011, 08:21 pm   #62
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but I couldn't care less about Atom Zombie Smasher, Voxatron or Crayon Physics, for example.
Both are really good games.
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Old 12/21/2011, 04:27 am   #63
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Also: You OWN Crayon Physics.
Yes, but if I recall, it has been offered in 3 or 4 bundles. And having played it, I can confirm that I don't care about it and would rather it was not taking up space in my Steam Library.

Now you'll say "But you don't have to add them to Steam." No, I don't. On the one hand, If I don't add any games to Steam, I'll forget what I have. On the other hand, if I add them all beforehand I'll have games I don't care about filling up space there.

What I should really do is try a game before I add it.

EDIT: I could say similar about The Binding of Isaac. I know various people on here like it, but 2D Zelda it is not. I think IGN defined it's aesthetic as "cutesy grossness," and one might call that original, but having played the game myself, I can say that I don't particularly care for it. Now, when I say "I could say similar," what I mean is that (now that I recall), I bought the Voxatron bundle with particular interest in getting The Binding of Isaac as people on here claim to like it and I wanted to have a first-hand opinion. Unlike Crayon Physics (which I feel is a waste of time for anyone over the age of 7), I am glad I played Isaac so that I can talk about it, but again I'd rather it wasn't taking up room in my Steam Library.

...or perhaps I should just have a category called Misc., Other or Trash or something similar, and put all the Steam games I don't play in it. Maybe that would work.


EDIT AGAIN: Having my Humble keys resent to my email while writing this post, I can elaborate on having said "I haven't been keeping up with too many of the bundles" by including that the indie bundles I have bought are Humble #3 (which comes with #2), Humble Voxatron (for Isaac), Humble Frozen Synapse (as a gift, as yet unredeemed; I already have a Steam copy of FS), and the Xmas Bundle (which I got specifically for Blackwell).

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Old 12/21/2011, 06:23 am   #64
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Stop insulting my games of the year.
Seriously. The Binding Of Isaac is my game of the year without any doubt.
Crayon Physics was a great game. The deluxe version is a lot easier but still enjoyable if you set yourself some goals.
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Old 12/21/2011, 07:15 am   #65
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If you didn't get the Voxatron bundle, I *urge* you to get Dredmor today.
I looked at my Voxatron Bundle, and didn't see Dredmore on it. According to wiki, it was in the Humble Introversion Bundle and I didn't get that. So, maybe.

EDIT: Yes, okay. Dredmore Complete (ie. Dredmore w/ DLC) is currently on Steam for $1.87. So yes I'll get it, lol.

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By the way, four days until the Indie Royale XMAS Bundle ends, but if there was any reason to get this bundle, I'd have to say the Blackwell series. Sure it's made in AGS, but hell, it's fun.
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Old 12/21/2011, 08:48 am   #67
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What's wrong with AGS?
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In essense, nothing, but it might be considered cheating.
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Cheating...what? I'm still not following.
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Cheating...what? I'm still not following.
He means that the games weren't created from scratch, they were made using Adventure Game Studio, a tool specifically designed to make adventure games.

I don't think it's cheating either, but whatever.
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He means that the games weren't created from scratch, they were made using Adventure Game Studio, a tool specifically designed to make adventure games.

I don't think it's cheating either, but whatever.
I'd agree, since AGS is still pretty hard to use!
(And there's still a lot of work involved in the other areas of game design. In this case especially, since the engine is probably he least labour intensive element of making an adventure game!)
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He means that the games weren't created from scratch, they were made using Adventure Game Studio, a tool specifically designed to make adventure games.
Then a lot of gamemakers are "cheating". Basically everyone that licenses an engine like Source or UT3.
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I'd agree, since AGS is still pretty hard to use!
(And there's still a lot of work involved in the other areas of game design. In this case especially, since the engine is probably he least labour intensive element of making an adventure game!)
Yeah, since you still have to do all the animations, the backgrounds, the dialogue, the advanced coding, every single description and interaction... it's a lot of work.

Just because you use someone else's engine doesn't make you a cheater. It just shortens development a little bit while you focus on making everything else. Nothing wrong with that.
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Actually, even though Adventure Game Studio can be very complex, and must be complex, seeing as you can't simply create something like the Blackwell series, you can create an easy adventure game without too much problems.

Also, there's a huge difference between Game Maker and the Source or Unreal Engine. The latter two require actual source code alterations.
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A bunch of assholes used Humble Bundle keys purchased at one cent each to scam the Steam holiday sale, now the minimum purchase to get a Steam key is $1.
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Why do people keep proving my point that it's nothing to be proud of to be a gamer? Or human even?
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While I sorta hate the jerks who went and did that, the silver lining is that maybe the Humble Bundles will make more money? Maybe?
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While I sorta hate the jerks who went and did that, the silver lining is that maybe the Humble Bundles will make more money? Maybe?
Nope. Thanks to checkout fees, they lose .29 to .49 with every one-cent purchase.
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Nope. Thanks to checkout fees, they lose .29 to .49 with every one-cent purchase.
I was referring more to the fact that now you have to make a minimum $1 purchase to get the Steam keys.
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