Rate The Last Movie(s) You Watched

[Alcoremortis]

Originally Posted by RetroVortex

If you ask me, anyone that has a large amount of investment in the comic book is going to love these sort of movies.
(Well apart from the Hulk ones I guess)

People who go beyond that level of fandom, or aren't all that interested at all are going to nitpick at it.
(For totally different reasons of course!)

I've never read ANY of the comics and I enjoyed Avengers immensely. Though, I probably liked it for different reasons than a comic book fan would like it.

Essentially, I enjoy action movies/popcorn flicks or whatever when they are done well. I loathe straight-up action as it gets dull after awhile, but what I crave is an action movie where I feel immersed in it because I have some sort of attachment to the characters. Also humor. It's why my favorite action-y movies have always had good characterization and humor: Indiana Jones, Pirates of the Caribbean, original Star Wars, Die Hard...

Now Dashing, you mentioned no real character arcs. I agree with you partially. There wasn't a ton of character development in this film, but then again it wasn't particularly needed for the film. Most of the characters had their major character arcs in their solo films.

I did spot a few moments, though. We've got Captain America going from the guy who didn't understand what was going on to having a few scenes at the end where he was acting as the team leader and directing all the others. I thought this was a nice touch because as super heroes go, he seemed a bit underpowered compared to the others. Thor has absolutely nothing, but then again, he did have quite a change in his own movie. Neither did Hawkeye or Black Widow. Stark starts out as if he was just in another Iron Man movie with everyone else as supporting cast, but by the end he's willing to sacrifice himself to save all the others and even takes orders from Captain America. And then there's Banner/Hulk, but you already mentioned him.

I would hesitate to call these true arcs, but with so many main characters, having true arcs would have made this movie immensely long.

As to Darth Marsden, as a non-comic book fan, I got from the movie that the reason the nuke to the Chitari made them all just stop functioning was because that they were some sort of hive race that was controlled from that ship-thing. Or maybe I've been reading too much Ender's Game.

[Michael J Fox is Canadian]

I'm versed in the comics here is how I see it;

Captain america in the comics was the leader of the avengers but that had to be changed for this film; in the comics he's only frozen for 20 years. He's frozen in the mid 40's and unthawed in the mid 60's. He also starts fighting crime again upon being thawed prior to the avengers starting. In the current series he's displaced by 70 years and his next mission IS the avengers. He's still playing caveman in this film. Iron man is also the most experienced, he's had 2 films under his belt. Thor is a norse god who's only been to earth once, the Hulk can't even string a sentence together let alone lead.

This film is essentially a sequel for all the characters. And specifically one where the characters have developed between films. Banner now has the ability to deliberately hulk out (something brief from the first film). Cap is getting acclimated and Thor had only spent half a film in the real world. Iron Man does have the important arc of acting humble.

It was important to develop the strength of the alter egos; thor doesn't have one, he's the same person the entire time. But Tony Stark and Bruce Banner are both geniuses and use their intelligence together. Steve Rogers is pretty much the same as his alter ego minus the shield.

[Shadowknight1]

I agree that there should've been a little more on how Thor got back to Earth with the Bifrost destroyed, but then again...no one but Loki and Thor knew the Bifrost was gone. Sure Jane Foster and Selvig could have put 2 and 2 together, but for the most part, the rest of them probably didn't care.

Also, I just read an interview with Clark Gregg(Agent Coulson) and he mentioned that he'd been hearing about Joss Whedon killing beloved characters and that he mentioned this to Joss and Gregg says that Joss said, "Don't worry. You're safe." Gregg also mentioned that he was in talks for Iron Man 3. Such a shame...

Also, can I just say that I did enjoy most of the trailers that showed before The Avengers in my town? Frankenweenie looks to be the typical Tim Burton-creepshow fare, but it IS also a story he's been wanting to tell again in a longer fashion. G.I. Joe 2...well, I didn't see the first one, and well...this trailer didn't really make me want to see the second either. The Expendables 2...another sequel I haven't seen the first movie yet, but it definitely looks like it's going to be a stupid, yet fun, action flick. Pixar's Brave...wow. I really like that Pixar is trying to show that it can do more than just Toy Story and Cars and Finding Nemo. Brave looks to be a lot of fun, and who knows? Maybe Billy Connolly's character will live through this one. The Amazing Spider-Man's trailer was...well, amazing. I was dead-set on hating this movie from the first time they said they were rebooting the franchise, but the trailers have really turned me around. My only gripe is...well, isn't the point of a secret identity supposed to be that it's a SECRET? And The Dark Knight Rises, of course. Wow. Definitely getting a sense that they're going to bash it into our heads that this is Nolan/Bale's LAST BATMAN MOVIE.

[Alcoremortis]

Originally Posted by Shadowknight1

Also, I just read an interview with Clark Gregg(Agent Coulson) and he mentioned that he'd been hearing about Joss Whedon killing beloved characters and that he mentioned this to Joss and Gregg says that Joss said, "Don't worry. You're safe." Gregg also mentioned that he was in talks for Iron Man 3. Such a shame...

Maybe he'll be back as a robot.

[Farlander]

Well, Coulson's death was handled very smartly. We actually don't see him die, we see him lose consciousness (which is normal... not to mention, people in real life survived wounds worse than that). There's no body, there's the thing with the cards and Nick doesn't let Hill call in the staff medics... I'm not saying Coulson is alive, but I'm saying that his death WAS handled in a smart way and it will be absolutely believable if they bring him back.

[Alcoremortis]

Originally Posted by Farlander

Well, Coulson's death was handled very smartly. We actually don't see him die, we see him lose consciousness (which is normal... not to mention, people in real life survived wounds worse than that). There's no body, there's the thing with the cards and Nick doesn't let Hill call in the staff medics... I'm not saying Coulson is alive, but I'm saying that his death WAS handled in a smart way and it will be absolutely believable if they bring him back.

Well, Fury has shown that he was totally willing to lie to get the "push" that he was looking for... It's possible. If this is the case, I imagine that some of them will be pretty pissed when they find out.

[Farlander]

Originally Posted by Alcoremortis

Well, Fury has shown that he was totally willing to lie to get the "push" that he was looking for... It's possible. If this is the case, I imagine that some of them will be pretty pissed when they find out.

I think it will be a mix of 'pissed off' with 'happy to know he's alive' if that will happen. However. There WAS a push already, so that won't destroy their team dynamics, it's not like they're gonna say 'Coulson is alive? Well, **** effectively working in a team then, let's fight each other again!' But that may lead to some conflicts with Fury, which, I think, could be a very interesting plot. And I think that is something that would suit a Captain America movie very well - Captain America NEEDS his values and trust in the country/government/superiors challenged to not be a stale and boring character.

[Shadowknight1]

Originally Posted by Farlander

Well, Coulson's death was handled very smartly. We actually don't see him die, we see him lose consciousness (which is normal... not to mention, people in real life survived wounds worse than that). There's no body, there's the thing with the cards and Nick doesn't let Hill call in the staff medics... I'm not saying Coulson is alive, but I'm saying that his death WAS handled in a smart way and it will be absolutely believable if they bring him back.

I do believe that his eyes were still open when we heard that last gasp. Lose consciousness, eyes shut. But your eyes are still open when you die, unless you die in your sleep. But if he IS alive, then the guy most likely to be upset will be...Coulson. After all...Fury did bloody up his near mint condition cards. And was I the only one that wanted to smack Tony Stark for not realizing that Loki had planned to use STARK TOWER?! They even brought up Stark Tower, and none of them made the connection. *facepalm*

[Farlander]

Originally Posted by Shadowknight1

I do believe that his eyes were still open when we heard that last gasp. Lose consciousness, eyes shut.

Not necessarily. Some people lose consciousness with eyes open. Sometimes eyes are open and they roll up which looks really creepy. It all depends on the person and the situation.

And was I the only one that wanted to smack Tony Stark for not realizing that Loki had planned to use STARK TOWER?!

Well, it looked like Tony Stark wanted to smack himself, well, himself

[Darth Marsden]

Last watched a fan-edit of The Phantom Menace that basically turned it into an absolutely hilarious comedy. How? I present to you the trailer for The Ridiculous Menace.

Now imagine nearly two hours of that. It may sound like it's too much, but trust me - it's hilarious. 10/10.

(It's on FanEdit dot something if you want to grab it. No actual links - pretty sure that's against the rules)

[Johro]

I'll admit the Walking On Sunshine bit was pretty good.

[Alcoremortis]

Dark Shadows: 1.5/10

Serious spoilers, but I doubt anyone cares about this movie, so I'm not going to bother with tags.

Good God, this movie was awful. I don't know why I went to go see it. I KNEW it would be awful and I still went to go see it. The plot seemed to be constructed simply to string together a series of scenes that had interesting special effects, with several bits of senseless destruction that I didn't even understand. There was some sort of thing about rebuilding the family business, but neither Barnabas nor the family seemed to know the first thing about setting up a business and we didn't really get to see much of that anyways because the plot seemed to revolve instead about a romance that didn't even make sense!

Seriously, we've got absolutely no motivation for this romance except that the girl kinda looks like the girl he used to be in love with. But we don't know why he was in love with the original girl so the whole thing seems kinda trivial. Neither the girl nor Barnabas ever shows anything that could remotely be construed as love. He even nearly forgets to save her at the end, preferring to cause senseless destruction and show no emotion at all while doing so. It was kinda like bad Twilight. Which shows how awful the love story was. I predict a new meme, Twilight: still a better love story than Dark Shadows.

There's also some sort of plotline where there's this bad father and his crazy son... but then the father just up and leaves so I guess that's the end of that plot? And there seems to be no real reason for Helen Bonham Carter. She's supposed to help psychoanalyze the kid and the family seems to spend a lot of money for her to do that, but all she ever seems to do is stagger around drunk when she isn't trying to seduce Barnabas. Or steal his blood. There was an obvious attempt at a sequel here, but I doubt anyone would ever go back for seconds on this.

Oh, and there's the girl stereotypical teen who acts like how everyone feels that stereotypical teen girls act. Somehow she's a werewolf because she was bitten as a baby... and how did her mother not know this? HOW? Wouldn't you notice if your infant turned into a miniature monster every full moon or something? Maybe she's just really unobservant or something.

Basically, the only reason I didn't give it a zero was because it was a fairly pretty movie and the first ten minutes or so were okay. There was a Jurassic Park-esq sequence that was kinda neat where poor construction workers are dragged off and killed by an "unknown" assailant... except that you already know that there's a vampire running around by this point so any suspension is lost there. And I gave half a point for a scene where Barnabas kills a group of hippies... because I'll confess I actually chuckled at that part, but I don't think it was supposed to be as funny as I found it.

Yeah, my end verdict is to only see this movie if you're a masochist like I am.

[puzzlebox]

Originally Posted by Alcoremortis

And there seems to be no real reason for Helen Bonham Carter.

The reason is Tim Burton and a wedding ring.

[Alcoremortis]

Originally Posted by puzzlebox

The reason is Tim Burton and a wedding ring.

Well, yeah, but they could have disguised it slightly better. At least give her something to do that makes sense.

[Johro]

It doesn't help. Look at Resident Evil. The main characters are side characters and while the first film was an okay idea as a stand alone story. Moving it into the known universe has just made me wish it to die...or at least Alice... at first. Now I just want the whole thing to die. THIS is something that needs a reboot...or just to not exist.

[Darth Marsden]

The Resident Evil movies, you say? Hmm...

[Starts scribbling stuff down]

[RetroVortex]

I still think Knox's version of Resident Evil is the best version!

Celine Dion is making me melt!!

[corruptbiggins]

Prometheus: Enjoyable.

[Secret Fawful]

One of the best action adventure-horror films I've seen since Tremors, Evil Dead 2-3, and The Blood and Ice Cream Duology.

100%- believe.

[Johro]

Best action-horror since Tremors and Evil Dead 3... doesn't exactly sell me on it. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed and have all the movies you listed, but those two aren't exactly horror films.