Spoilers\ What was your decision on the two brothers?

[CapnJay]

Originally Posted by Boondock Saint

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that point. Clementine's already seen horrific stuff and the world's clearly gone to hell, so I understand where you're coming from saying she'll have to learn to cope with the new status quo. She's already living in fear enough as it is without looking at Lee as just another monster in a world of them, though.

I don't play Lee as someone trying to delude Clementine into believing things are better than they are (she's too smart for that), but what's the point of saving the human race if you sacrifice your humanity in the process? Your Nietzsche quote essentially sums up the rationale behind my choices.

Didn't Shepard say that to Illusive Man in ME3

[macil]

By sparing the men, in my opinion, you are working against rebuilding a lawful / working society. These men are allowed to continue killing and/or spreading their philosophy of cannibalism (they did try to convert you before eating you).

Again, there is no authority to which to turn them over. Survivors will have to eventually create a new authority / government. Shall Lee and the others detain them until such a group is organized? That was not a choice presented in the game.

Also, the choice to sequester Clementine was not presented in the game. It is interesting to me that players would choose to spare the men simply to spare Clementine the trauma.

I do agree that sparing her the trauma would be preferable (with a later adult-to-child explanation of what happened). But the evil that could be unleashed, and the evil that would go unpunished, outweighs a single moment in a child's life (who, though unfortunate, has been through a lot already.) (Additionally, the trauma caused to Clementine is only relevant in the killing of the second brother, as it is knowledge you wouldn't have on the first brother when making a decision, though I guess you could assume she would be near.) I wouldn't risk these men hunting these people I care about or even people I haven't met.

Anyway, time for some Starcraft 2.

[Boondock Saint]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

Didn't Shepard say that to Illusive Man in ME3

ME2, actually. Just before he blows up the Collector Base. Nice catch.

[Dildor]

I let 'em live. The first, I just wanted to be the bigger man. Not murdering in front of Clem wasn't even something I was thinking of, but I was glad I didn't when I saw that smile.

The other was dead anyways, so I walked towards the group.

[CapnJay]

I left danny in the barn

[AustinU25]

I killed the fist guy, heard clementine gasp and read "clementine witnessed you murder" screamed "FUCK!" and then replayed the episode from the meat locker room. Sided with Lilly that time. Wrong decision btw. I kinda AFK'd during the second brother fight, so I didn't even get a hit on him. Made him, with a perfectly normal face, screaming "Lee! Don't you walk away from me! Lee, fight me like a real man! LEEEE!" much more epic as I walked away. Didn't steal food either, might have to redo that last part though.

[CapnJay]

I cant get a punch in the andy fight seriously when your on top of him i try hitting A nothing i try do the left right like you do to bash the bearded walker teachers head in and still nothing

[UnknownFox]

The first guy, I killed him just because he had been freaking me out from the start anyway. Though when I did it and found Clem was there and saw that all I could think was she doesn't need to be seeing that kind of stuff and felt horrible.

So ended up sparring the second guy....plus having your whole group there watching kinda made me paranoid on what they would think regardless.

[JessiC]

I made those decisions pretending Clem was my 11 year old brother....yeah I wouldn't want him to have nightmares watching me kill two crazy whack jobs...but I also wouldn't want him to possibly be taken by them and eaten!

It said only 17% of people killed both bros....whole lotta softies that are gonna die by cannibal dairy farmers is the only thing I could think of to explain that mind blowing stat.

Oh...and who the f- leaves food just sitting in a car? Idiots. I would def not take it at gun point from someone but sitting there? You people are going to die with your chivalry taking a chomp on your ass. "I aim to live." Mal Reynolds.

[iamhere]

Originally Posted by JessiC

Oh...and who the f- leaves food just sitting in a car? Idiots. I would def not take it at gun point from someone but sitting there? You people are going to die with your chivalry taking a chomp on your ass. "I aim to live." Mal Reynolds.

i know right its the "international law of go fuck yourself" to steal something thats been abandoned for even a sec :P that and to steal from someone who tried to kill you :P

[ommmnomnomnom]

I killed then both, i knew something was up pretty much as soon as we had the fence fixed

[The_Ripper]

I killed the first guy because I was angry, he killed that woman at cold blood in front of me and his brother could hear his yelling. I'm sorry for Clementine for seeing that.

I didn't kill the second brother but I beat him bad. After seeing that the generator breaks and zombies started to come in, I thought that being eaten alive it's the worst punishment a man could receive... and, of course, it's sweet irony so I left.

BTW, the first guy who Lee must chopped his leg off (or not) it's trapped in a St. John's trap and if you try to open it Lee says that the trap it's modified for not to being reopened. When Lee said that "motherf****" it's the nicest word I told who put those kind of traps over there.

[Stromko]

Originally Posted by JessiC

Oh...and who the f- leaves food just sitting in a car?

I figured the whole thing was a trap and the bandits were just waiting for all of us to have our arms full of boxes so they could come in and jack us.

Lee interpreted this as meaning I wasn't looting on moral grounds, but once we knew it was a vehicle belonging to the bandits (the car shows up in the video right?), I wouldn't see any problem looting all their stuff.

I killed the first brother, to be honest it was just because he goaded me not to. I didn't kill the woman so he thought I wasn't willing to kill, as if that situation were at all similar. Oh yeah? *stab!* Hey Clem knew that guy was bad, and she wants Lee to kill the 'Bad Ones'. Andy murdered and ate people, that makes him as bad as the zombies.

The other brother I didn't kill, because the group was right there watching me. It seemed unwise to make them wait for me to kill this man when we really just needed to get out of there.

Man, the fight with that guy was tough though. I couldn't make heads or tails out of the QTE where he's punching you, it seemed like the option to block his punch showed up entirely randomly on my second try. The first try I kept mousing and clicking in the same areas, and nothing. Jeeze Lilly was right there, she could've shot his head off while he was slowly punching me to death.

Originally Posted by The_Ripper

BTW, the first guy who Lee must chopped his leg off (or not) it's trapped in a St. John's trap

I was surprised Lee didn't point that out after he got into the back room. The bear traps really stuck out in my mind and I realized that family was doing some bad things right there. Had no idea how bad it was going to get though! I was actually just trying to wash my hands and go back to dinner in the next scene, only went up stairs because the sink and soap weren't interactable and I couldn't very well come back with dirty hands.

[Redos]

Yeah I just finished the game and noticed only 17% decided to kill both brothers.
I mean really these guys tried to kill you and your group and even succeeded with one of them.
Justice had to be served and I'm sure the cops wouldn't answer my 911 call.
So afterwards Clementine asked if I needed to kill them and I just told her.. yes these are bad man and they tried to hurt us they had to go, see seemed to understand how it worked just fine.

I was even more stunned with the fact that only 55% took the food.
What were you guys thinking, other then expecting a bandit trap there is no way to justify not taking the food, you have a responsibility to the group and even more so Clementine.
It's one thing not wanting to rob someone but this food was just sitting there and your people were nearly starving a day earlier.

Some people and there morals willing to let your own people starve because it's the right thing to do it's hilarious.

[Zombieface]

I know man! I killed those fuckers dead! Eatin Mark like that... who knows how many other people they've eaten! The human race is having a hard enough time surviving as is! Plus, you know they're in cahoots with the bandits, and you know how dangerous they are, and those dairy dudes know too much about you to let them live! They'll have nothing left, they'll be pissed off.. they'll lead the bandits right to us! (although the bandits will probably find us anyways, based off the "cliff hanger") We need to pack up and get out of there.. lol I wish I could warn them!

[DREWBAA]

Originally Posted by ruairi46

Whats that a quote from. I fogot.

Marines

[DREWBAA]

[QUOTE=JessiC;629637]I made those decisions pretending Clem was my 11 year old brother....yeah I wouldn't want him to have nightmares watching me kill two crazy whack jobs...but I also wouldn't want him to possibly be taken by them and eaten!

It said only 17% of people killed both bros....whole lotta softies that are gonna die by cannibal dairy farmers is the only thing I could think of to explain that mind blowing stat.

Exactly.. too many Dale's in the world I guess. At that point you need to be able to go into survival mode like Rick. You can talk about humanity and rebuilding society all you want, but none of that will matter if you aren't alive to see it.

[greenj2]

Killed them both. I didn't hesitate with Danny, he took that pitchfork through the chest half-way through telling me I didn't have the guts to do it.

I did pause for a moment with Andrew since he was beaten and the whole group was watching me. But just imagining he and his brother sawing off Mark's legs was more than ample motivation to finish the job. Under the circumstances I'd say they both got off lightly. Poor Mark...

I was honest with Clem about it afterwards, told her they were bad people and had to be dealt with. She seemed to take it well.

I didn't loot the car, only because I thought it could be a trap. Like the farm, it just looked way too good to be true and those bandits were still about. In retrospect, I would've looted it. With a wounded/hungry group in tow, it would just be plain stupid not to. Also, gas or no, anyone who would leave a car full of loot unattended and in plain sight during a zombie apocalypse with lights on, doors open and keys in the ignition isn't really doing the whole 'survival' thing right in the first place.

*Oh and I didn't kill crazy crossbow lady. I wanted to hear what she had to say, until Danny fed her a slice of heaven...

[KCohere]

I killed the first brother and then I felt so guilty that Clem had to see it after seeing Larry get his head squashed that I couldnt bring myself to kill the other brother in front of her.

I didnt kill Larry. I was frozen with indecision and Kenny called me useless and went ahead and killed him himself.

[Lars80]

Originally Posted by DREWBAA

I killed them both.

When I finished the game it said only 12% of players killed them..

Were you guys asleep?? They killed and fed you a member of your own group and held the rest of you in a torture chamber and you let them live?!?!?!

I guess I am going to have to rock the impending apocalypse solo then.. weak.

Amen to that.
I see alot of people argue that Clementine would have seen it.
Well, Clementine saw me butcher both brothers and afterwards i told her it was necessary, or something like that. And she seemed to understand it, because they were bad. And they were, look at Mark. Look at the whole situation you were in with those brothers. I killed them as soon as i got the chanse to do so.

She was not happy about stealing from the car though. That made me feel alot worse than killing the brothers.

Besides, if you want to protect Clem. Kill brothers, so they dont get a chanse to come back and kill you and your group. The big brother with a rifle would have been more than capable of killing many members of your group, and he knew where to find you.