F*** Kenny

[TMLC]

At the end of the first episode I was just waiting for the moment I would have the chance to repay Larry for everything he did at the drugstore. But when the moment came I just couldn’t do it. Not that way.

Lilly was desperately trying to save her dad and there was a chance to do it (and, in fact, I think you save him before the… you know). And if he died, Kenny could be there prepared to do what he did (by the way, great job done by the writers, I really felt like I should try to help Larry even disliking him).

But I really got disappointed with Kenny. He can always redeem himself, but it seems there is no middle ground with him. You are 100% with him (no matter what he says and do) or you are an enemy.

He is with the group only for security. If they get into a desperate situation he will simply flee with his family and leave everyone to die. The only thing that may avoid him from doing it is his wife (I think).

[CapnJay]

Kenny needs an serious ass kicking

[Necrosoul]

I agree with DK. Kenny is garbage. I have given him the benefit of the doubt when it came to saving Duck the first time and even when Larry said he was bit, but as I kept going I noticed more and more he is just out for himself and his family. Deep down I didn't blame him until he killed Larry right in front of Clem with out a second thought. Then just runs off with out even thinking about anyone else or what he could be rushing into. In my game he just sat there in the stall as I was about to get shot with this oh God I am next look. Man F him. I don't care if he has a boat. I am sure if I make it to the boat with him he will sacrifice me the first chance he gets.

[marcu5]

Originally Posted by Necrosoul

I agree with DK. Kenny is garbage. I have given him the benefit of the doubt when it came to saving Duck the first time and even when Larry said he was bit, but as I kept going I noticed more and more he is just out for himself and his family. Deep down I didn't blame him until he killed Larry right in front of Clem with out a second thought. Then just runs off with out even thinking about anyone else or what he could be rushing into. In my game he just sat there in the stall as I was about to get shot with this oh God I am next look. Man F him. I don't care if he has a boat. I am sure if I make it to the boat with him he will sacrifice me the first chance he gets.

im certain at this point that even with his boat, he wouldn't let anyone besides his family use it.

[CapnJay]

He'll pull a larry and let clem on then punch lee in the face

[Sisterofshane]

One thing I will say that is MOST revealing about Kenny's character versus Larry's...

Even if you choose to completely side with Larry about killing Kenny's kid, Kenny still comes back to save your life. Larry STILL tries to kill you, despite you agreeing with him and then saving his life by getting into the pharmacy.

[TMLC]

Originally Posted by Sisterofshane

One thing I will say that is MOST revealing about Kenny's character versus Larry's...

Even if you choose to completely side with Larry about killing Kenny's kid, Kenny still comes back to save your life. Larry STILL tries to kill you, despite you agreeing with him and then saving his life by getting into the pharmacy.

In the other hand, even if you side with Kenny the whole time he will turn against you and even let you to be killed if you don’t agree with his position to kill Larry without a second thought.

I other words, until this point don’t matter what happens, you can’t count that [at least] this characters will consider the past before turning on you.

[marcu5]

Originally Posted by TMLC

In the other hand, even if you side with Kenny the whole time he will turn against you and even let you to be killed if you don’t agree with his position to kill Larry without a second thought.

exactly, i'll probably never side with kenny again after the stunt he pulled. murdering someone that i had revived, only to get pissy that i didn't agree with him.

[HolyWalkersBatman]

Huh...I didn't really think he was any more of a dick than Larry/Lilly and the whole lot. Okay, so "killing" Larry in front of his daughter wasn't the wisest idea but Larry was king of the dicksacks and seeking revenge on the guy that suggested that you kill his son seems like a pretty typical response to me. He's a bit of a drama queen but very loyal to his family. Not bad qualities if you ask me.

[marcu5]

Originally Posted by HolyWalkersBatman

He's a bit of a drama queen but very loyal to his family. Not bad qualities if you ask me.

it is when you're not his family.

[marcu5]

and how is he so loyal to his family? he probably went somewhere to hide while i went directly to the house to save his goddamn wife.

[HolyWalkersBatman]

Originally Posted by marcu5

it is when you're not his family.

True true. I sided with him totally throughout ep 1 + 2 because I couldn't stand Lilly/Larry so I guess that's why he's crazy side didn't pop out so much.

[CapnJay]

I think TTG has a Trust noone Mentality

Larry punched you out and left you for dead
Duck killed shawn
Kenny killed larry despite he could be revived [and was according to devs]
Lily is sneaking rations for larry
Mark is telling Larry what you said in private
The St. Johns are Cannibals

[Sisterofshane]

Originally Posted by TMLC

In the other hand, even if you side with Kenny the whole time he will turn against you and even let you to be killed if you don’t agree with his position to kill Larry without a second thought.

I other words, until this point don’t matter what happens, you can’t count that [at least] this characters will consider the past before turning on you.

Put yourself in Kenny's shoes. He saves your life at the drugstore because you have proven yourself to be an asset to their group, even without being loyal to him. When you choose to delay killing Larry (for some ill-perceived notion of maintaining strict morals), in his eyes, you are needlessly putting them all in danger. Why should he stick his neck out for someone who might end up getting him or his family killed?

I don't think he killed Larry out of vengeance. This is why he smashes his head in, despite you making it clear that you won't back him up. He really feels that he is doing what is necessary to survive. He doesn't even sugarcoat it - walking back to motel, he flat out says that "we" killed Larry (I don't know if he talks to you or not if you side with Lily).

Lily, on the other hand, is a spiteful witch. She stood there, with Clementine watching, and was going to let me die in front of everyone. Granted, I had just held her back while Kenny killed her father, but this is the same woman who didn't even want to help out my group that had two children in it in the first place. I think her loyalty is more questionable than Kenny's will ever be.

[Gman5852]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

I think TTG has a Trust noone Mentality

Larry punched you out and left you for dead
Duck killed shawn
Kenny killed larry despite he could be revived [and was according to devs]
Lily is sneaking rations for larry
Mark is telling Larry what you said in private
The St. Johns are Cannibals

That's the idea

And now Lilly has no one, but... well her future is pretty well known... Holy crap

If Kenny didn't do what he did to Larry and we could have saved him, then Lilly would have stayed with us and not go to Woodsburry, then she wouldn't have aided the governor and killed Lorri!

Wait, that's a reason to like Kenny...

[CapnJay]

Someone contacts ben and tells him his girlfriend is held hostage unless he Lures Lee to an ambush point. Ben does it and then it turns out Bens GF was working with the hostage takers and they want to Lynch Lee and Doug or Carley comes to save him Doug with technology Carley with shooting the noose off

[TMLC]

Sisterofshane, I’m trying to put myself into Kenny’s shoes. That’s why I not saying that he was a bloodthirsty killer. He had a good point about why to kill Larry and if the reanimation process failed I would be 100% with him. But you must at least try.

And in fact, that’s not my problem with him. The real problem is that I’m the guy whom saved his kid at the farm. The guy that has defended his kid at the drugstore. The guy that defended and supported him after the farm incident. The guy that has been sharing information with him and that fed his son at the two opportunities that have been presented.

The only thing I said was that we could try to save Larry before smashing his head (you may call that a “ill-perceived notion of maintaining strict morals”, but I consider it a correct position in a society; especially when civilization seems to be falling apart) and that was enough for him to forget all the things I have done for him and his family.

All our friendship had gone to hell (at least from his point of view) just because I didn’t agreed with him about killing a guy that could be saved (it was a risk, but in the worst scenario we would still be able to kill him).

And not only this, but also leaved me to die while I was trying to help him save his family.

Lilly is surely not perfect (no one here is saying that anyone is, by the way), but until now she had stood for the group. If she doesn’t help you when you side with Kenny is because you had just killed her father while, in the other hand, Kenny does it just because you didn’t agreed with him immediately (no matter if you have always helped him and, after that point, continued trying to help despite the circumstances).

[CapnJay]

TTG messed up with Kenny it feels like a Slider game where Kennys slider just automatically shifts to the other side

[pdlbean]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

TTG messed up with Kenny it feels like a Slider game where Kennys slider just automatically shifts to the other side

I guess the question is whether that's a character trait or a mistake by TTG for making him too far one way or the other.

[TMLC]

Originally Posted by pdlbean

I guess the question is whether that's a character trait or a mistake by TTG for making him too far one way or the other.

Considering the way he reacts when you try to reason with Larry at the first episode I think this may be just the way he is. But, at least until that point, he had been able to recognize later what you have done for him.