F*** Kenny

[CapnJay]

ok heres one more thing NOBODY seems to have mentioned from episode 1


"i'm a commercial fisherman , Mackerel , Dolphin whatever's biting and paying"

[Sisterofshane]

LOL, we're going to judge a man over fishing for a nonsapient species that has inappropriately been labeled as "gentle" and "kind"?

I'll tell you what, if we were on Kenny's boat and he caught a dolphin, I will bet you anything that it tastes pretty good.

[CapnJay]

I'm not saying dolphins are gentle and kind but they are pretty damn intelligent and they are percieved as gentle and kind. also catching dolphins is a dick move in general

[NessaT]

Hmm... didn't take note of that either. Think he'll be one of those people who end up eating other survivors in order to live?

[Sisterofshane]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

I'm not saying dolphins are gentle and kind but they are pretty damn intelligent and they are percieved as gentle and kind. also catching dolphins is a dick move in general

And Lee supposedly murdered the state senator who was sleeping with his wife. I'm trying really hard to not be judged by my past mistakes. We should give Kenny the benefit of the doubt for being, well, a clueless redneck. We are in the middle of the Zombie Apocalypse, you know.

[CapnJay]

i'll stick with Clementine and keep a watchful eye on kenny

[greenj2]

Yeah, I'm well over Kenny now. Nobody holds a grudge like he and his family. Count me well and truely in Lilly's camp after episode 2.

While pushing Duck on the swing at the dairy he gave me shit for trying to rescue Shawn before Duck back at Hershel's farm. That's rich coming from the guy who let someone else's son die in that same moment for no reason at all.

Then Katja had a dig at me for the same thing later in the barn. I'm like "Hey, it's near the end of episode two, that was almost four hours ago and I've had all your backs since then! ...Bitch."

Then Kenny let's me almost get killed by Danny over the disagreement in the meat locker.

Bottom line is Kenny and his clan aren't evil, but unless you're backing them 100%, they'll kill or abandon you the second things turn for the worse, just ask Salt-lick Larry. He cares about the group, but he'd gladly sacrifice them all for 'his' group.

Lee summed it up best at the end of Episode 2; "You're not a bad guy, Lenny. But... fuck!..."

[CapnJay]

i want to mention this rather then search out marks thread but

Marks kind of a dick

1. When your talking about Larry behind his back Mark tells him
2. When your talking to the St. johns and being vague he interrupts telling about the vet.

I don't really feel bad about him being eaten now.

i was just going to feed clem lily larry and carley but since clem loves apples carleys going hungry so I fed duck instead and noone complained cept mark at the fence but fuck that guy.

[Jonttu1]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

I'm not saying dolphins are gentle and kind but they are pretty damn intelligent and they are percieved as gentle and kind. also catching dolphins is a dick move in general

Dolphin is another name for the Dorado fish. It doesn't mean the mammal. As a sportsfisherman I facepalm so hard when these two get mixed up XD

[CapnJay]

my bad then im not editing it though i made the mistake i fess up because i didn't have all the information.

[Jonttu1]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

i want to mention this rather then search out marks thread but

Marks kind of a dick

1. When your talking about Larry behind his back Mark tells him
2. When your talking to the St. johns and being vague he interrupts telling about the vet.

I don't really feel bad about him being eaten now.

i was just going to feed clem lily larry and carley but since clem loves apples carleys going hungry so I fed duck instead and noone complained cept mark at the fence but fuck that guy.

And WTF, marks a dick? Okay he's a bit naive and a little overly enthusiastic, but that doesn't make him a dick. He was a good fella who just tried to have your back.

[CapnJay]

Originally Posted by Jonttu1

And WTF, marks a dick? Okay he's a bit naive and a little overly enthusiastic, but that doesn't make him a dick. He was a good fella who just tried to have your back.

you dont share private convos with a third party

still i only say good things about larry so it doesnt matter but mark doesnt have my back maybe i should have given him some jerky to shut his mouth

[Rommel49]

Kenny's never been concerned about the safety of the group, as I've said before, the guy's a cowardly parasite. Always has been. We see this at Hershel's farm first, where he abandons Lee and Shawn even after his kid is out of immediate danger (which results in Hershel kicking everybody out of that particular safe haven). And only afterward does he do the hand-wringing with "we could've saved that boy".

He willingly endangered the entire group in the drug store when it was thought that Duck was bitten, and note that during the exchange he doesn't even really dispute that Duck was bitten.

Additionally, what does he actually do to pull his weight in Episode 2? Every other adult does something to make themselves useful while in camp. Larry and Mark are building the fence, Katjaa serves as the camp's medic, Lilly and Carley perform sentry duties, Lee's there to save Katjaa's life from the reanimated corpse with Mark, Larry, or Carley saving Lee's in turn... yet the guy whose wife was at risk was nowhere to be seen.

Kenny's whole motivation is to leave the group if gets the RV working while making use of the food, shelter, and security that group provides in the meantime.

Originally Posted by TMLC

Or, as another example, I wouldn't have thought twice before taking the supplies from that car (but would had offered shelter if the owners had appeared; something that I’m sure Lilly, and possibly Kenny, would have opposed).

Actually, I imagine Lily would've been onboard with offering the owner(s) of the car shelter. She was the first one to say that stealing the stuff wasn't right, and the fact he had food was enough for the group to take in Mark.

It's also why I'm inclined to side with Lilly over Kenny, simply as a matter of long-term survival. The person who has qualms about screwing over strangers is more likely to have qualms about screwing you over even if it's of benefit to them. And the inverse is also true.

[-Anna-]

Originally Posted by Rommel49

Kenny's never been concerned about the safety of the group... Additionally, what does he actually do to pull his weight in Episode 2...

To be fair, Kenny was the only member of the group to actively help Lee really explore the 'dairy' farm in the beginning of the episode. I think their teamwork was useful to confirm the possible danger of the farm. (Though, I'm sure Lee would have come to his own conclusion about the farm during dinner, and I'm guessing Kenny was mostly thinking about the safety of his family. But still. :P )

/is no longer completely aligned with Kenny anyway, due to other mentioned points

[ozzmann]

as for Kenny, well a man will up and go mad the moment he thinks his life is over. I don't condone what he did, but then again my family wasn't in the clutches of evil cannibals

[toothiersnow]

Originally Posted by -Anna-

To be fair, Kenny was the only member of the group to actively help Lee really explore the 'dairy' farm in the beginning of the episode. *SNIP*

i was left wondering why on earth kenny couldnt do it himself tbh, i //know// this is a puzzle game etc... BUT (through some retarded bug that neglected my choices) kenny was against me from the offset of ep 2, fuming that i chose larry over duck (i didnt) and decided not to take me away (so his family didnt get food) why then, he hates me and i hate him, does he come to me for help? just seemed odd is all. why he couldnt of done it himself?

[-Anna-]

Originally Posted by toothiersnow

i was left wondering why on earth kenny couldnt do it himself tbh, i //know// this is a puzzle game etc... BUT (through some retarded bug that neglected my choices) kenny was against me from the offset of ep 2, fuming that i chose larry over duck (i didnt) and decided not to take me away (so his family didnt get food) why then, he hates me and i hate him, does he come to me for help? just seemed odd is all. why he couldnt of done it himself?

Kenny needed Lee and Lee needed Kenny. Someone was needed to unscrew the lock, while a different person was needed to keep watch on the farm brother. (Otherwise Katja was busy with the cow, using children seems unreliable, Larry wanted dinner, and I think Lily wanted to leave the farm than snoop around.)

Oh! I had a similar bug. If you're on PC, try copying your save files, uninstalling your game, reinstalling your game, and pasting the save files back. (This solution worked for me.)

[toothiersnow]

sadly im on xbox, so i think come episode 3 ill just start again and hope the bug isnt there anymore, it would be nice to think my choices are actually doing something lol

[TMLC]

Originally Posted by Rommel49

Actually, I imagine Lily would've been onboard with offering the owner(s) of the car shelter. She was the first one to say that stealing the stuff wasn't right, and the fact he had food was enough for the group to take in Mark.

Hum... I don’t know. Lilly seems reluctant about Mark and wasn’t the first one to accept Ben either. But her position at the looting the car matter could indicate some kind of change. Who knows?

[jaybreezy]

I sided with Kenny in the freezer/meat locker/whatever.

Larry was as good as dead anyway. There was no way his heart was going to hold up through everything and the fact is, they couldn't take the chance. Being locked in a room with a walker probably isn't the best way to survive.

Someone said you could gag him while trying to revive him. So, while trying to get oxygen into someones body who is suffering from a heart attack you're going to close off his main source of breathing? You might as well hold a pillow over his head.

Kenny made the right choice in the situation when the main thing you and the group is trying to do is survive.