How many of you guessed the whole thing out?

[PuhChewyChomp]

I want to try but I'm scared to start a new game and lose all my saves again.

[darkdomino]

Maybe I'm just an untrusting person... but I felt something wasn't right the minute I stepped foot in that farm. After the two brothers began acting weirder and weirder, the bizarre interaction with the crazy lady in the woods, and "Momma" making off-handed comments about "dinner" all the time.... I had a hunch something was really fucked up here. After that whole incident in the barn, I knew for a fact it was time to give these people the smackdown.

[HolyWalkersBatman]

I was kind of bummed out that I figured it out right away. I just caught up with the comics so the cannibal element of it was fresh (no pun intended) in my mind. Once they required us to come with them to do the exchange I knew it was bad news. I wish TellTale had been a little more subtle about the whole thing honestly.

[BlankCanvasDJ]

Knew it was cannibalism from the very beginning. I've read enough post-apocalyptic fiction and seen enough movies to just automatically assume cannibalism whenever somebody boasts about having "plenty of food". Didn't make the episode any less awesome though.

Originally Posted by HolyWalkersBatman

Once they required us to come with them to do the exchange I knew it was bad news.

That part wasn't really a red flag, actually. They weren't going with them to make the exchange, they were going to check out the electric fence.

[OzmosisCoH]

I knew cannibalism was part of this story the moment I read "Starved for help".

Tho granted, this was before Ep 2 was out, so my money was on Kenny and his family going cannibal! XD

[Kaapo]

I'm a bit ashamed to admit I didn't guess the cannibalism part at all.

I suspected something fishy immediately when I saw the two brothers, there was nothing sincere whatsoever about them, but I couldn't pin it down. The electric fence coming on and Andy's excuse made me certain they were up to no good - Mark hadn't even shouted before the fence came on. Still, cannibalism didn't cross my mind.

Their constant talk about supper didn't make me suspicious of cannibalism either. People are pointing out it's a dairy farm, not a ranch, but... did they ever mention it would be a meat-based meal? If yes, I must've overheard it in both of my playthroughs, but if not... why shouldn't it be possible to cook a good meal from the foods of a dairy farm? You could have cooked potatoes, pizza, roasted bread, grilled corn... nothing odd about it.

Jolene just brought further confirmation of something being up with the St. Johns, but I just thought they were collaborating with the bandits in some way. The back room of the barn had obviously been used to cut people to size, but I still didn't realize cannibalism was going on, I just thought the St. Johns had been murdering other survivors previously camped out on the farm, and chopping down the bodies to dispose of them more easily.

Even after I heard Mark say "Don't eat dinner" I still didn't come to think of cannibalism... I thought the meal was drugged due to the amounts of morphine I saw earlier in the upstairs closet. As to Mark, I thought maybe Danny had been starting to chop him up but hadn't told Brenda he was already doing it, so Brenda rang the dinner bell and Danny had to leave the job unfinished and come eat to make it look unsuspicious.

I only actually realized what was going on when I saw the dialogue option "you're eating human meat".

[The_Cheshire_Cat]

Originally Posted by macil

There were no surprises in this episode for me. None.

I didn't like the look of their faces (or their eyes) when I met the brothers on the road -- didn't trust them from the start. Trusted them even less when they began asking about the motel, who the leader was (which they persist about later on), how many people were there, etc.

When you get to the farm, its obviously "too good to be true" (and so it probably is.) I wondered immediately how they could "trade" enough for the gas they needed.

I guessed they were cannibals as soon as I spoke to the mother -- I mean, the *very first time* (I was certain as I could be without experiencing the rest of the story.) I didn't like her face either.

The rest of what happened was just confirming what I knew (or "suspected", to be technically precise). What the bandits were yelling when they attacked you: "Give us our food", the mother's refusal to let you see Mark, the crazy lady: "I KNOW what you are!" and so on and so forth.

I enjoyed myself, but I was expecting better after episode 1. And I wished they hadn't killed Mark, he was cool.

Spot on good sir/madam. Spot on.

I knew something was funny from the questions of "how many people are in the group." and "Who is the leader." I think they also asked questions about how well armed we were. I answered as defensively as I could. I just knew something was up...all too nosy if you ask me.

But I was suspicious before that. I dunno, maybe its because of the game atmosphere or maybe I am like that in life. Something about how they made the deal seem so one sided like it only benefited the group and not the two brothers. It was like a mirage in the dessert. You tell some half starved people you have plenty of food and safety and all you want is gas, something they have no immediate use for (and the brothers could get it without the group) its a win/win for the group. Sounded like a bunch of salesmen.

So as the above quote said everything else after that, the bandit attacks, the barn, the crazy lady it was all confirmation that something was up. It was not until I met the mother and she talked about cooking food that I knew they were chomping on people. They mentioned they only have one cow, no mention of pigs or chickens, just one cow. So where is the meat?

It was still fun playing it none the less, when i saw the barn (back bloody room) I knew I was right on target.


Hey telltale throw a curve ball next time eh? Include a dame...guys are suckers for a dame.


Editor:
I can't wait to play it in front of my girlfriend. She is a very clever young woman and I am keen to know if she catches on as early as I did. I haven't spoiled a thing for her.

[Bearcules]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

lol did anyone actually go to dinner without checking on mark?

On a second play-through I tried to eat some Mark tenderloin but whenever i tried to walk into the dining room Mark would say something upstairs and it would not allow the player to join the rest.

[Jolly Ranchers]

when mark told me that they shouldn't eat the meat i also thought it was drugged so that the family then could chop everyone into peaces. I also thought that because the game made me race to the diner room to make sure clem wouldn't eat any of the food. I mean of course it isn't nice to have eaten human food but it's not exactly like she would have died from it. Would the game have been over if i wouldn't have gotten to the dining room in time? I just thought this whole "OMG SPIT IT OUT " thing was a bit too much.

I also guessed the cannibalism thing pretty early and thought it was rediculous that lee would go to diner with andy after he discovered the chopping room and andy just standing there creapily saying "It's dinner time" with a murderer's gaze. But hey he said it's for chopping animals and not my friend who dissappeared a while ago.

But anyway, i think it would have been kinda cool if everything would have made it seem like they were cannibals but in the end they would have only had a normal dinner and mark would have walked in and there would have been an explanation for everything. And then when you think everything's ok you could have let the family do some other non cannibalistic bad stuff.

Or even better: Lee and the group could have killed the family or just tried to and let the zombies destroy the farm in the process because they were sure that the family were cannibals only to later make a discovery that the family was normal and that it only was in their head because the situation made them paranoid.Would have also been a great way to play with the expectation of the player and mirror his own "paranoia" in the characters. And maybe mark would have been illed BECAUSE they thought the family were cannibals. would have been very ironic

[gamingafter40]

My first thought was that the brothers were somehow in league with the bandits -- that the confrontation in the woods on the way to the farm was a setup for our group's benefit, and that all the talk about "safety" was intended to lure our group to the farm for exploitation of some sort by a larger group. I also noted (and confirmed on my second playthrough) that while Andy claimed he turned the fence on AFTER Mark yelled, in fact Mark was shot after the fence was turned on.

But I hadn't yet gotten to Volume 11 of the comics (just did yesterday), so cannibalism wasn't the first thing that came to mind. I was thinking something more like capture and enslavement to keep the farm operating -- we could see enough deterioration to think that the family was operating more out of need than kindness. I didn't start to think cannibalism until I started to notice that the "dinner" repeatedly mentioned was remarkably non-specific, and then of course the back room in the barn made the nature of the threat clear.

[Death689God]

I knew from the second they offered the deal. I just knew and when the group made me go to Andale, I'm sorry did I say "Andale"? No that can't be right, that's the place in Fallout 3 with all the Eerily Happy, and Cordial, Cannibals... No, as soon as the group made me go to The Farm, I knew. Before the oddly intrusive questions on the road, before Brendas creepy "They grow em good" comment about Macon, before the deals with Bandits, before the odd mention of former workers not adding up, Before Danny's suspicious reply to the camcorder and food boxes, before the crazy lady ramblings, and before Kenny and Lilly getting a bad feeling.

[Gregory2012]

Originally Posted by fenom

So 2 guys are coming down the road. And they don't exactly look threatening.. They just want some gas and they're offering food in exchange.

Considering the only thing the group was missing - or at least the #1 ergency- was food, sure let's make a deal. BUT

why should anyone from our group leave to go to the farm? You go back to your farm, bring some food and we give you the gas. We don't know these people, maybe there is no farm at all or they have no food. Right there it was a deal breaker and bad news for me. But all the rest of the group was like let's get going.

There should have been more skepticism. The survivors were listening to their stomachs, not their heads.

Originally Posted by MF25

Kind of reminded me a little of the old people in The Book of Eli too, i figured it out but i didnt realise they were cannibals until i put the wheelbarrow and the bloody room together with Jolene's ramblings.

The St. John Brothers had an answer for everything until the end. The door in the barn was locked to stop bandits (but isn’t the electric fence for that?). The blood wheelbarrow was an accident according to Danny. The bloody room in the barn was slaughtered animals that were killed in the woods.

Jolene sounded crazy and she refused to identify herself when I asked her. She didn’t seem like a good source for information.

Originally Posted by fenom

Yeah all those questions from the start, like how many in your group, how many guns etc...

They could have been curious, but those questions are very personal. If they shared information about themselves in proportion to the information they asked from Lee, I would have felt more comfortable.

Originally Posted by Jonttu1

I realised immideatily that there was something horribly wrong with them when Andy jumped on me for trying to go to the barn before fixing the perimiter.

I fixed the perimeter before approaching the barn, but your experience was a good warning sign.

Originally Posted by Jonttu1

but when Brenda didn't allow me to see Mark I guessed they were cannibals and the whole slaughterhouse in the barn just confirmed it.

Brenda’s reason was that Mark was exhausted. That sounded plausible. I got suckered until the end. I should have been more skeptical.

Originally Posted by interitus

I thought something was off right away with all the help missing. EVERYONE died or left except the family? Seems off.

Well, I thought the explanation was the farm hands were either killed or left to return to their families. That made sense.

Originally Posted by Saracenar

I was incredibly naive and didn't pick it. I knew something was up (but I didn't clue into them being cannibals until I was heading up the stairs towards the bedroom), but I kept giving them the benefit of the doubt, probably for the following reasons:

- I wasn't suspicious about dinner cause I'd seen all their crops out back and thought we'd just be eating vegetables.
- I didn't key in to what Jolene was rambling about, just thought she was crazy and I was a bit focused on the crossbow.
- I didn't notice Danny was sitting by the swing and didn't get to have that creepy conversation with him.
- Andy's explanation for the bloody tool room seemed like it could have had merit.
- I haven't read the comics and so I'm not quite conditioned to the "if its too good to be true it isn't nature".

And personally I think that made it better for me. I imagine keying into it alongside Lee felt way creepier and atmospheric than guessing it from the start.

I completely agree, except I did talk to Danny about his gun. Odd, but I’ve heard of gun owners naming their weapons.

Originally Posted by Jolly Ranchers

i think it would have been kinda cool if everything would have made it seem like they were cannibals but in the end they would have only had a normal dinner and mark would have walked in and there would have been an explanation for everything. And then when you think everything's ok you could have let the family do some other non cannibalistic bad stuff.

That would be a good idea for future episodes. Suspicious characters turn out to be trustworthy while non-suspicious characters have dark secrets. That will confuse the player about who to trust.

Originally Posted by gamingafter40

I also noted (and confirmed on my second playthrough) that while Andy claimed he turned the fence on AFTER Mark yelled, in fact Mark was shot after the fence was turned on.

That is one of the biggest warning signs. I didn’t Andy’s timing error because the conversation was cut short when the group showed up.

[TheBlackDeathOfFinland]

They were too nice and polite....
When people act like that... They have done something so bad that even their mom wouldn't forgive.....
But in this case....
Their mom was in the same shit.

[phoray]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

lol did anyone actually go to dinner without checking on mark?

I didn't !

The opportunity to have that conversation is only when Kenny and Lee have hatched a plan to look into the back of the barn. I saw Larry and Brenda flirting it up and, if I thought anything about it, I thought, "Good, she's distracted, too." I went straight to figuring out the generator and moved right on, not seeing Brenda again until dinner.

I've only seen the first two seasons of The Walking Dead. So, actually, I really thought they were keeping Brenda's husband as a Zombie in a room somewhere. I swallowed the "Mark is resting and I already brought him up dinner" hook, line, and sinker. I didn't try to wash my hands, and I was suspicious, so i zigged upstairs right away. I knew something was behind that door, and for some reason, totally ignored the "Why isn't mark up here?" Or even maybe thought they were feeding him to husband zombie. (I've played through 4 times, so my initial thoughts are pretty fuzzy.)

So, I was totally shocked to see a chopped up mark with no zombie in sight. Then he said not to eat dinner and oh my gosh, I was out of there like lightning to keep Clementine from eating mark.

Cannibalism never crossed my mind.

[Sisterofshane]

I honestly wasn't suspicious until after I met the mother. She creeped me out in all number of ways. I scrutinized the whole farm, looking for any number of reasons to not trust them. The only thing I found suspicious was when I knocked on the door, and talked to Brenda again, and asked her how many rooms the house had - she immediately got defensive (I honestly didn't think it was that weird to ask someone who had offered us to stay with her how many rooms she had).

Andy's comment about hearing us "yell" rang SOME alarm bells, but then I thought it could have been possible that he heard the bandits yelling. At Jolene's camp, Danny seemed honestly relieved that the boxes from the dairy were empty (why?), and also that the camcorder didn't work. Then talking to Jolene, I paid careful attention to her words, and Danny shot her before she could say what she knew the farm family had been doing.

I was definitely not trusting them now. The first thing I did back at the farm was ask to see Mark (was told no). I talked to everyone else that I could, and then snooped around the barn. I found the pile of dirty clothes first. Then I opened the barn door and the first thing I asked after being caught by Andy was "Why is there so much blood in there!". From there it was only natural to continue snooping inside the house, and to try to find Mark.

Now, one of my first thoughts was that they were cutting up people to feed to the bandits (a lot of emphasis was put on the "deal" they made to keep the farm safe). It wasn't until I thought about the "special dinner" comments as I was searching for Mark that made me think that they were cannibals.

[Lars80]

Luckily i was not one of those who guessed it out.
Allthough i got suspicious when those bandits started rambling about food. And i found the slaughterhouse. But it wasnt until i found Mark that i realized they were cannibals.

[Master of Aeons]

The whole point of the dinner timing problem just seems to be whether or not Clem eats it. You can stop her, but everyone else just chows down. The game continues.

[kirby18]

I think we have some conceited people on here. Im not saying ALL of you are lying but I dont think there was ANY indication of cannibalism at first interaction. The true first indication that something was up for me was a combination of the locked barn door and the way that danny(or was it andy lol) that creepily said "its going to be a good dinner". I had suspiscion when the mom didnt let me see mark but I thought the game didnt want me in the house yet. As for the cannibalism, I didnt realize until the option popped up saying "Its people! people!". I too thought they drugged the food or something. Either way besides that I dont remember any significant indicators. I thought they were nice people. Im actualluy really good with guessing what will happen in movies/ shows/ games (not bragging haha) but this one surprised me actually. So far in Ep 1 and 2 I havnt been able to guess any of the main conflicts. Side note: The games spontaneous-ity reminds me of Red Dead Redemption, which is my favorite game of all time!

[Kinky John Fowler]

I clocked that there was something up with them the moment I saw Danny, he was clearly designed as a 'creep' as was his mother, so there was very little doubt that they were up to something. I realised it was canabalism when the Crazy Lady mentioned something about dead bodies, and realised it was Mark (i'd actually forgot about him by this point) we were going to eat when the mother said something along the lines of "I assure you he's all right" during a convo on her porch.

I was a little dissapointed that everything was made so obvious tbh, I would have much prefered a true shock reveal.

[Death689God]

Originally Posted by kirby18

I think we have some conceited people on here. Im not saying ALL of you are lying but I dont think there was ANY indication of cannibalism at first interaction. The true first indication that something was up for me was a combination of the locked barn door and the way that danny(or was it andy lol) that creepily said "its going to be a good dinner". I had suspiscion when the mom didnt let me see mark but I thought the game didnt want me in the house yet. As for the cannibalism, I didnt realize until the option popped up saying "Its people! people!". I too thought they drugged the food or something. Either way besides that I dont remember any significant indicators. I thought they were nice people. Im actualluy really good with guessing what will happen in movies/ shows/ games (not bragging haha) but this one surprised me actually. So far in Ep 1 and 2 I havnt been able to guess any of the main conflicts. Side note: The games spontaneous-ity reminds me of Red Dead Redemption, which is my favorite game of all time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an0v7...feature=relmfu
13:50

Even this girl, who isn't all that bright, had it figured by first interaction.
It's all about being genre savvy. I aspire to be a writer myself some day, I saw this coming a mile a away. They were too nice and together, it's the apocalypse... Take a look at all the Nice Together Simple Folk in this Genre:
The old couple from the Book of Eli, The people from Andale from Fallout 3, etc.

It was pretty obvious... Who invites desperate, hungry people who pulled guns on you to your Dairy Farm during the Apocalypse? It's like it hasn't registered to these people that the world's ended... That's the biggest red flag there is.