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Old 07/02/2012, 03:06 pm   #21
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That's exactly what i think!! specially the part of the hoodie, jaja , except that i didn't steal, but i'm still sorry by losing the hoodie
I decided to support Clementine because i need to make her understand that i'm someone trustable, and because i know that we could survive without stealing the food. And i was so proud seeing her facing all the group, i couldn't leave her alone in that.
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Old 07/02/2012, 07:33 pm   #22
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What is going to happen?

Stealing from the car will certainly have consequences. However, if they'll be group internal or regarding the owners of the food, I don't know. The food could belong to anyone.

I guess that the food belongs either to the bandits or to a character of the TV show. And they might not be very happy about stealing it. Maybe you're even responsible for other people's death (starvings). People will know them for being the thieves because of the hoodie. It was utterly stupid to take it.


I did "steal" the food. There was nobody there ... the driver is probably dead and the food might just be wasted, if you leave it behind. So I explained to Clem that we're not bandits. But in this world you either eat or are being eaten.
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Old 07/02/2012, 07:38 pm   #23
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cant imagine why the hell someone will not take the food. We not thieving anything the car is ABANDONED and we all are starving.
The easier decision in the entire series i must say
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Old 07/02/2012, 10:41 pm   #24
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I figure the consequence would be somebody recognizing Clem in the red hoodie that was in the car.

Given the cans from save lots and the fact that the forest lady had a girl at one point though, the theory that she owned the car did make sense however.

Although I don't know how the car battery could last the number of hours it went from meeting the lady to finding the car.
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Old 07/03/2012, 04:31 pm   #25
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From the trailer we can see that Lee is shooting the bandit from episode 2 in the head. I assume that the car was owned by the bandits and they come to retaliate.
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Old 07/03/2012, 05:24 pm   #26
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what i would love is they meet up with the people they stole supplies from and they AREN'T pissed. the gangs guilty conscience would make them paranoid.
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Old 07/03/2012, 11:14 pm   #27
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The decision of stealing or not the food from the car was the hardest for me. In first place, it moved me that Clem faced all the group, so i finally decided to support her, because i didn't wanted that she feel alone, but later that night i thought that was a coward action from me let her be hungry by just a moral choice. What do you think will be the Consequences of what we all choose for the next Episodes(Share your decision).

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The only good choice is not to take the food. The food is taken anyways but Lee earns points with Clem, Lilly, Ben and Carley. Kenny hates Lee in my game so no need to go out of my way to make him happy.

Also, the hoddie gets left behind. It's the only real link to the food and the ones who stole the food right? No need to let anyone see Clem wearing it out in public. Like bandits.
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Old 07/03/2012, 11:20 pm   #28
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I think it is more of a moral consequence than physical (though I think whatever physical consequence presented could be kind of ironically funny if done right)

It most likely is meant to influence Clementine and Lee at the very end. Both of them are on a journey through this, so the way Lee acts not only changes who he is but what Clementine will become. That makes the choices I make a lot more meaningful when I think in the long run.
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Old 07/03/2012, 11:23 pm   #29
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From the trailer we can see that Lee is shooting the bandit from episode 2 in the head. I assume that the car was owned by the bandits and they come to retaliate.
**Spoilers** Well at the end of Jolene's video, she mentioned how the bandits had their attention focused on the dairy so Clementine will be safe as long as the bandits get food. So I think that because the dairy is no longer their center of attention, the bandits are scoping the area out and realize they can attack the motel. So I am not sure they are linked to the car or if they are I am not sure it is retaliation.
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Old 07/04/2012, 01:21 pm   #30
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I honestly can't think of any sensible, delayed repercussions. eg. Bandits would not let strangers take their supplies, only to come back and exact revenge later on. Plus, how would they recognise any of them? Supplies are not exactly identifiable IMO, though I suppose the hoodie would. Even then, stolen supplies or not, bandits would always be hostile so it makes little difference.

I believe it's more of a moral choice and it's there to prove your alignment, both in ethics and your group.

So far, my only disappointment was the impact of choices in the game. Choices did not matter as far as the survivability of the group was concerned. So, though I hope otherwise, I think whether or not you choose to loot Lee & Clementine will neither starve nor get cold.
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Old 07/05/2012, 11:27 am   #31
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So I'm thinking this differently now. The bandits are probably attacking the motor inn because it was Lee's group that had trashed the dairy. Breaking the deal, the bandits go to intervene. I don't think that the bandits have anything to do with the abandoned car.
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Old 07/05/2012, 12:05 pm   #32
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I did not take the food.

Other mentioned the sweater. I think if Clem has the sweater on it will show that the group is the one that stole the food. I am sure that in the next episode the owners of the car will be met and they will see Clem wearing the sweater and know who stole their food.

I dunno what that means as a result. The difference could be as drastic as picking Carley or Doug. Or it could be as subtle as telling Clem the word "manure". Who knows but I am thinking that because the "obvious" choice was to take the food, I am thinking it was also the "wrong" or .."makes the game very different" choice.
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Old 07/05/2012, 12:34 pm   #33
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I honestly can't think of any sensible, delayed repercussions. eg. Bandits would not let strangers take their supplies, only to come back and exact revenge later on. Plus, how would they recognise any of them? Supplies are not exactly identifiable IMO, though I suppose the hoodie would. Even then, stolen supplies or not, bandits would always be hostile so it makes little difference.

I believe it's more of a moral choice and it's there to prove your alignment, both in ethics and your group.

So far, my only disappointment was the impact of choices in the game. Choices did not matter as far as the survivability of the group was concerned. So, though I hope otherwise, I think whether or not you choose to loot Lee & Clementine will neither starve nor get cold.
I think you're right on target. Most of the things Lee does do not affect the outcome in any way, as many on this forum have pointed out, but they do go a long way in telling us what kind of man Lee is. In my game, Lee is not a liar or a thief but he is a killer. Lilly knows he killed a woman (Jolene) and Lilly and Clem saw Lee kill Danny. The whole group saw Lee kill Andy. These people were all going to die anyways so Lee did not alter the game but who Lee is changed.

I think our role in all this is to flesh out the kind of a person Lee is and TTG will handle the game mechanics and background for the others.
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Old 07/05/2012, 05:07 pm   #34
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thing is, they're in a new world, where the old rules dont apply anymore. trying to enforce them might be noble, but it will more than likely get you killed 1st.
that station wagon is perfect example, if you arent an opportunist, someone else will be- and what could have benefited you and yours will now feed and keep others healthy.
My initial playthrough I went with my gut and I was right- I took that stuff and made sure Me n Clem had food, supplies and gear to keep her warm.
On the flipside, you look like such a sucker as everyone is is diving in and this child is looking at you with hunger in her eyes. The highroad is the road to death in TWD
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Old 07/05/2012, 11:06 pm   #35
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What if the food in the abandoned car spoiled? In the future, food could be contaminated, forcing the player to choose between risking hunger or risking food-borne illness.

I am uncertain about that abandoned car. Why would a car filled with food be abandoned? It was close to the St. John Dairy Farm, so why didn’t the bandits that were attacking Mark and Lee earlier take the food? Maybe the car crashed after the bandits. Still, there are bandits in the woods and a car is a not a quiet form of transportation. Surely, bandits and walkers could have heard a car moving through the woods.
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Old 07/05/2012, 11:14 pm   #36
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What if the food in the abandoned car spoiled? In the future, food could be contaminated, forcing the player to choose between risking hunger or risking food-borne illness.
It's only been 3 months. Canned and processed foods can be edible a year or more after the expiration date, and the food looked to be soup cans and energy bars, so there you go.

Did make me wonder where the crew managed to get an apple... that must have been recent.

Food-borne illness wouldn't be a risk unless the devs opted to write it in.
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Old 07/05/2012, 11:19 pm   #37
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It's only been 3 months. Canned and processed foods can be edible a year or more after the expiration date, and the food looked to be soup cans and energy bars, so there you go.

Did make me wonder where the crew managed to get an apple... that must have been recent.

Food-borne illness wouldn't be a risk unless the devs opted to write it in.
In a real life scenario, though, long term survival would depend upon finding a way to preserve food for as long as possible (dehydration, canning, salting, etc.), especially since we know that electricity is out (no refrigerators, or appliances that will cook food consistently). Eventually processed foods will run out. (I doubt the story will last THAT long, but who knows?)
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Old 07/05/2012, 11:39 pm   #38
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In a real life scenario, though, long term survival would depend upon finding a way to preserve food for as long as possible (dehydration, canning, salting, etc.), especially since we know that electricity is out (no refrigerators, or appliances that will cook food consistently). Eventually processed foods will run out. (I doubt the story will last THAT long, but who knows?)
A group that small really shouldn't have to worry about it. 8 people should be able to get by on hunting/scavenging and not leave enough to worry about preservation. I think Deer would be the biggest animals to hunt in Georgia and roasting it on a flame should keep it preserved just long enough to eat the whole thing without worrying about rot. Well, the writers still have the liberty to work in a food shortage storyline *cough* if they'd like.

It's only something to worry about when the story settles into a permanent location with over 30 people that agriculture and preservation will be an issue. As you said, I can't see the story going that far.
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Old 07/07/2012, 10:55 am   #39
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choices do matter but the more obvious ones are lilly / larry and duck / kenny who ever you side with does follow in ep2 and i assume killing larry was the catalyst for lilly's exit..

i have done both to see the differences later on
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Old 07/07/2012, 11:29 am   #40
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Why didn't Lee and Clem refuse the batteries from the car as well, like she refused the hoodie?
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