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ozzmann · 07/18/2012, 06:21 am

OK lets pretend that Lee is a Murderer, That he killed the senator in cold blood.

Now, do any of you think that his post apocalyptic actions Redeem him? Or do you say, once a murdering bastard, always a murdering bastard?
I know it doesn't matter much in terms of crime and punishment anymore but would you, as a person relying on his help to survive, forgive him or be wary of him?

Milosuperspesh · 07/18/2012, 06:28 am

he will via clem...

yet another silly unnecessary new thread for existing debate...

Zeruis · 07/18/2012, 06:34 am

By parenting Clem, he will eventually redeem himself. If you're asking if he has already redeemed himself, then no. I think Lee has to go through a lot more.

ozzmann · 07/18/2012, 06:36 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milosuperspesh

he will via clem...

yet another silly unnecessary new thread for existing debate...

Are any of the threads really necessary? LOL sorry that its been done b4, I just want to get insight from other players. And for me anyway, silly is what I enjoy. This forum is like a mental release after being in reality the rest of the week. Anyhow I'm glad You think Lee is redeemable through Clem I tend to agree.

NessaT · 07/18/2012, 06:42 am

I don't think that Lee was a cold-blooded murderer. He said it was an accident, and I believe it to be a crime of passion.

He's been nice to everyone, and saved as many people as he could - so, I'd say yeah... he has good standing in my eyes.

Milosuperspesh · 07/18/2012, 07:03 am

the search button a common tab in all forums usually a bit small and hard to see but t's there..

and yes there is ALOT of ep2 threads to sift through

i'll let you off ozzbuddy

Master of Aeons · 07/18/2012, 10:29 am

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Originally Posted by Zeruis

By parenting Clem, he will eventually redeem himself. If you're asking if he has already redeemed himself, then no. I think Lee has to go through a lot more.

That is, he has the potential to. Not everyone is taking the good route.

thesporkman · 07/18/2012, 10:50 am

Men like him can never change! A maaaaaan... such as him!

CapnJay · 07/18/2012, 11:07 am

Lee must be baptized in fire.

Master of Aeons · 07/18/2012, 11:24 am

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Originally Posted by thesporkman

Men like him can never change! A maaaaaan... such as him!

Lee's prison number was 24601.

The_Cheshire_Cat · 07/18/2012, 11:24 am

He has not served his debt to society. He has taken a life, so the state must take his life, so that revenge may be served, and peace given to the victims and the society may be comforted knowing that killing has been proved wrong by killing the killer.

ou7shined · 07/18/2012, 11:36 am

He was framed.
Did you see his face when he offed that first cop?

ozzmann · 07/18/2012, 01:25 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Cheshire_Cat

He has not served his debt to society. He has taken a life, so the state must take his life, so that revenge may be served, and peace given to the victims and the society may be comforted knowing that killing has been proved wrong by killing the killer.

Society's debt no longer matters my Friend. Has Lee redeemed himself as a good person in your eyes, or is he still a murdering bastard?

( or is it murderous bastard?)

Lars80 · 07/18/2012, 02:31 pm

Redeem himself for who?

Jonttu1 · 07/19/2012, 05:17 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzmann

Society's debt no longer matters my Friend. Has Lee redeemed himself as a good person in your eyes, or is he still a murdering bastard?

( or is it murderous bastard?)

I think he was being sarcastic, atleast based on the "killing has been proven wrong by killing the killer" statement.

BrokenNintendo · 07/19/2012, 05:31 am

Let's see.... In my playthrough he has:

Saved Duck
Saved Clementine (twice)
Saved Larry
Saved Carly
Butchered the Coach (Save failure!)
Tried to talk Jolene down
Contributed to killing Larry (D:!)
Spared the St. John Brothers

Honestly he's saved multiple lives and only destroyed one so far in my playthrough, i'm going to say he's redeemed himself in my eyes. (Although I don't believe he killed the Senator either, it was either a crime of passion and impulse or he was set up)

CapnJay · 07/19/2012, 05:56 am

Tried To Save Shawn
Saved Clementine three times including from cannibalism
Saved Duck from Larry and let Kenny punch him {so he looked like a hero to his family. and now the group knows that Kenny had a grudge against Larry so if anything happened he gets the blame}
Saved Carley cause i didn't really know that Doug guy. [when Carleys revealed to be Fed then I never really knew her either]
Failed to Save the Band teacher Mr. Parker {but cut his leg enough he could have pulled himself free and crawled if he had the balls}
tried to help larry in the fridge [now Kenny is the bad guy]
Always honest to Clem
Killed both St. Johns. Because When Andy grabbed Clementine I told him "I'll Kill You." and as a good southern boy he was raised to believe a promise is a promise. Danny I killed to make Lily feel a little better since she said "I should kill you".
Didn't steal from the Car. Because Clem was not happy I killed two men

The_Cheshire_Cat · 07/19/2012, 06:13 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzmann

Society's debt no longer matters my Friend. Has Lee redeemed himself as a good person in your eyes, or is he still a murdering bastard?

( or is it murderous bastard?)

He was never a bad person to begin with. He doesn't owe anybody anything. So Yeah, he is a good person.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonttu1

I think he was being sarcastic, atleast based on the "killing has been proven wrong by killing the killer" statement.

Winner, Winner. Chicken Dinner.

Phantom Command · 07/25/2012, 09:31 am

We need to know the reason behind the killing, Lee knew of the affair beforehand and also has the option to say the killing was an accident, dose the excuse him of murder I don’t know, was it self-defence, was the senator attacking Lee's wife as the barn dream scream may suggest, or did he go there with the sole purpose to being to kill the senator?

Part of me doesn’t want this question answered as it derails the player who believes he's a cold blooded killer or a victim of circumstance by saying THIS is Lee.

WingSP117 · 07/25/2012, 01:07 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapnJay

Lee must be baptized in fire.

Probably a good idea for a death when Lee gets near Woodsberry GA

07/18/2012, 06:21 am	#1
ozzmann Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 220	Has Lee Redeemed himself? OK lets pretend that Lee is a Murderer, That he killed the senator in cold blood. Now, do any of you think that his post apocalyptic actions Redeem him? Or do you say, once a murdering bastard, always a murdering bastard? I know it doesn't matter much in terms of crime and punishment anymore but would you, as a person relying on his help to survive, forgive him or be wary of him?

07/18/2012, 06:28 am	#2
Milosuperspesh V3.0 The shining Join Date: May 2011 Location: Wai soh Sirius ? Posts: 3,168	he will via clem... yet another silly unnecessary new thread for existing debate... __________________ https://www.facebook.com/pages/KIQCS/311661538927832 I am Sir Milo of Smeg https://www.facebook.com/#!/SaveCarley My soul tastes like butterscotch pudding Mentored by Mr flibble Sorry the aloe vera ran out for those burns.

07/18/2012, 07:03 am	#6
Milosuperspesh V3.0 The shining Join Date: May 2011 Location: Wai soh Sirius ? Posts: 3,168	the search button a common tab in all forums usually a bit small and hard to see but t's there.. and yes there is ALOT of ep2 threads to sift through i'll let you off ozzbuddy __________________ https://www.facebook.com/pages/KIQCS/311661538927832 I am Sir Milo of Smeg https://www.facebook.com/#!/SaveCarley My soul tastes like butterscotch pudding Mentored by Mr flibble Sorry the aloe vera ran out for those burns.

07/18/2012, 11:07 am	#9
CapnJay The Consumate Consumer Join Date: May 2012 Location: Red Dwarf Posts: 2,451	Lee must be baptized in fire. __________________ http://i47.tinypic.com/2qds5si.gif >-O_###K.I.Q.C.S###_O-< I am Sir Jay of RedBull Head Scribe and Knight charged with Protecting the Queen,Penning tales for the Queen , Keeping Milo from going further insane,Keeping an Eye on the K.O.P. Mentored by Tom Lehrer's Ghost

07/19/2012, 05:56 am	#17
CapnJay The Consumate Consumer Join Date: May 2012 Location: Red Dwarf Posts: 2,451	Tried To Save Shawn Saved Clementine three times including from cannibalism Saved Duck from Larry and let Kenny punch him {so he looked like a hero to his family. and now the group knows that Kenny had a grudge against Larry so if anything happened he gets the blame} Saved Carley cause i didn't really know that Doug guy. [when Carleys revealed to be Fed then I never really knew her either] Failed to Save the Band teacher Mr. Parker {but cut his leg enough he could have pulled himself free and crawled if he had the balls} tried to help larry in the fridge [now Kenny is the bad guy] Always honest to Clem Killed both St. Johns. Because When Andy grabbed Clementine I told him "I'll Kill You." and as a good southern boy he was raised to believe a promise is a promise. Danny I killed to make Lily feel a little better since she said "I should kill you". Didn't steal from the Car. Because Clem was not happy I killed two men __________________ http://i47.tinypic.com/2qds5si.gif >-O_###K.I.Q.C.S###_O-< I am Sir Jay of RedBull Head Scribe and Knight charged with Protecting the Queen,Penning tales for the Queen , Keeping Milo from going further insane,Keeping an Eye on the K.O.P. Mentored by Tom Lehrer's Ghost

07/18/2012, 06:34 am	#3
Zeruis Mundy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,944	By parenting Clem, he will eventually redeem himself. If you're asking if he has already redeemed himself, then no. I think Lee has to go through a lot more.

07/18/2012, 06:42 am	#5
NessaT Resident Lurker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 318	I don't think that Lee was a cold-blooded murderer. He said it was an accident, and I believe it to be a crime of passion. He's been nice to everyone, and saved as many people as he could - so, I'd say yeah... he has good standing in my eyes.

07/18/2012, 10:50 am	#8
thesporkman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 952	Men like him can never change! A maaaaaan... such as him!

07/18/2012, 11:24 am	#11
The_Cheshire_Cat America will fall Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Washington DC Posts: 542	He has not served his debt to society. He has taken a life, so the state must take his life, so that revenge may be served, and peace given to the victims and the society may be comforted knowing that killing has been proved wrong by killing the killer.

07/18/2012, 11:36 am	#12
ou7shined weapon of choice = 9 iron Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 23	He was framed. Did you see his face when he offed that first cop?

07/18/2012, 02:31 pm	#14
Lars80 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 331	Redeem himself for who?

07/19/2012, 05:31 am	#16
BrokenNintendo Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 29	Let's see.... In my playthrough he has: Saved Duck Saved Clementine (twice) Saved Larry Saved Carly Butchered the Coach (Save failure!) Tried to talk Jolene down Contributed to killing Larry (D:!) Spared the St. John Brothers Honestly he's saved multiple lives and only destroyed one so far in my playthrough, i'm going to say he's redeemed himself in my eyes. (Although I don't believe he killed the Senator either, it was either a crime of passion and impulse or he was set up)

07/25/2012, 09:31 am	#19
Phantom Command Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Trapped within one's mind Posts: 109	We need to know the reason behind the killing, Lee knew of the affair beforehand and also has the option to say the killing was an accident, dose the excuse him of murder I don’t know, was it self-defence, was the senator attacking Lee's wife as the barn dream scream may suggest, or did he go there with the sole purpose to being to kill the senator? Part of me doesn’t want this question answered as it derails the player who believes he's a cold blooded killer or a victim of circumstance by saying THIS is Lee.

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