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Master of Aeons · 07/20/2012, 09:30 am

Oh my god, they're cannibals!

Sisterofshane · 07/20/2012, 09:31 am

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Originally Posted by Master of Aeons

Oh my god, they're cannibals!

Lol! What other shocking revelations do we need?

Holy cow, we've been in Georgia for the entire duration of the story!

izzywozzy · 07/20/2012, 02:32 pm

I think they took advantage of the situation, where Mark was some helpless free meal that they could butcher easily, and they wouldn't be questioned about it if he died.

CVVF · 07/20/2012, 03:34 pm

you know, I thought of something: The group brought Mark in because he had food, Lilly then said that his food was running out and they didn't need him. He ended up becoming food.

BTW: First post woo

fanganga · 07/20/2012, 03:54 pm

On my first playthrough I was conflicted when Lee ran to stop the party eating - the whole game had been setting up just how desperate the party's food situation was, so I was thinking "Is cannibalism what we need to do to survive now? Am I about to doom everyone to starvation by hanging onto pre-crisis squeamishness?" and that guilt led to me ultimately cutting the family too much slack for "doing what they had to do", when in retrospect the traps, the severity of Mark's shoulder wound and the other food should have made it clear that they were murdering people, and they weren't cannibals out of necessity (although perhaps selling the meat to the bandits was the only thing stopping them from being killed by bandits, or walkers when the gas ran out).

I find it interesting how they all deal with their complicity in different ways - Danny seems to enjoy it, Brenda justifies it, and Andy seems to be in denial - when he's shouting at Lee at the end, he says "You did all this! We just wanted gas!"

Master of Aeons · 07/21/2012, 06:49 pm

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Originally Posted by fanganga

I find it interesting how they all deal with their complicity in different ways - Danny seems to enjoy it, Brenda justifies it, and Andy seems to be in denial - when he's shouting at Lee at the end, he says "You did all this! We just wanted gas!"

Accurate.

Milosuperspesh · 07/22/2012, 04:24 am

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Originally Posted by fanganga

Andy seems to be in denial - when he's shouting at Lee at the end, he says "You did all this! We just wanted gas!"

Yet Andy is the one who asks you to go check on the fence, which he ends up switching on trying to fry lee and mark.

Mark 'convenitantly' gets an arrow, and then after lee finds mark , he says 'brothers'

so Andy is actually no different he may of 'protested' but he still eats the human meat and allows it to happen..

fanganga · 07/22/2012, 04:57 am

I'm not saying he's not complicit. I'm saying he deals with his guilt by shutting it out whenever he can.

Milosuperspesh · 07/22/2012, 05:09 am

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Originally Posted by fanganga

I'm not saying he's not complicit. I'm saying he deals with his guilt by shutting it out whenever he can.

how does he 'shut out' the guilt ?

never saw that or heard it said..

if anything andy is extremely naive more than in denial/guilt imo

it's easy to claim 'innocence' after things have happened but who really believes they just wanted gas after what went down ? not me no siree..

fanganga · 07/22/2012, 05:28 am

I wouldn't say Andy's naive - certainly not in the "Oh gorsh, Danny, why'd ya want the release latches off them traps?" way. He certainly knows what he's doing when he modifies the traps, triggers the fence on Lee and Mark and plans what to do with the prisoners. He lies more effectively than Danny or Brenda, and I think he can do that because he's able to fool himself into believing that they're not eating people - and I'm taking the fact that he sticks with the lie under extreme stress, and when it's painfully obvious to the player that he's lying as evidence of that. Dude's seriously messed up, but messed up in a different way to the others and in retrospect a scarier way because he can calmly do evil, then behave as if nothing bad has happened, because he genuinely believes that's the case.

Milosuperspesh · 07/22/2012, 07:05 am

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Originally Posted by fanganga

I wouldn't say Andy's naive - certainly not in the "Oh gorsh, Danny, why'd ya want the release latches off them traps?" way. He certainly knows what he's doing when he modifies the traps, triggers the fence on Lee and Mark and plans what to do with the prisoners. He lies more effectively than Danny or Brenda, and I think he can do that because he's able to fool himself into believing that they're not eating people - and I'm taking the fact that he sticks with the lie under extreme stress, and when it's painfully obvious to the player that he's lying as evidence of that. Dude's seriously messed up, but messed up in a different way to the others and in retrospect a scarier way because he can calmly do evil, then behave as if nothing bad has happened, because he genuinely believes that's the case.

makes sense

8Bit_System · 07/23/2012, 02:49 pm

Just in case you guys were wondering what Brenda did for a living before the apocalypse...

Here we go Y'all...

Galdis · 07/23/2012, 04:00 pm

No, of course it wasn't necessary.

They were all lunatics.

Hence why I killed them. Also, to starve out the bandits.

Milosuperspesh · 07/23/2012, 04:02 pm

again with the killing...

will no one think of the children

please someone think of the children...

skepticalguy90 · 07/23/2012, 04:10 pm

Didn't feel the need to kill them. Danny was zombie food with his leg screwed up, and I didn't see Andy getting away after Lee put a whooping on him.

AwkwardlyNERD · 12/28/2012, 10:02 am

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Originally Posted by Dr Lance VanBoobenHousen

they had a lot of cheese, a feild full of corn and veg. so was it even nessasery to cut off that 4 eyed assholes legs and serve them up? they could have just served a huge salad? and THAT ladies and germs is why i killed them, both of them

Moron. You clearly didn't listen/pay attention to the game.

Also, "4 eyed asshole"? What evidence did he give of being an "asshole"? He was perfectly nice, sensible, responsible, and trustworthy.

"4 eyed"? I wear glasses. Does that make me four eyed? No. I have two eyes and then I have glasses. Do they LOOK like eyes to you?

AwkwardlyNERD · 12/28/2012, 10:08 am

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Originally Posted by Demopan

*You're

Also: When Danny says "tainted" meat, he means the person became a zombie before they could get the meat. Once they reanimate, its inedible.

I think he just generally means when a person dies normally, the meat is tainted, which is why he asked to be kept alive so he could be eaten.

Scaeva · 12/28/2012, 10:19 am

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Originally Posted by AwkwardlyNERD

I think he just generally means when a person dies normally, the meat is tainted, which is why he asked to be kept alive so he could be eaten.

Real life cannibals did kill their victims before eating them. Just like with cows or pigs, so long as the meat is eaten fresh it won't be 'spoiled.'

And that is probably the most disturbing thing I've ever typed. lol

I think by tainted, he meant zombie meat. He was saying that once a person turned, it wasn't safe to cannibalize them.

WowMutt · 12/28/2012, 01:08 pm

I had a minor issue with the whole cannibale thing as it was only 3 months into the ZA. The had food.. The had all that corn, a cow for milk and butter and even to eat if they absolutely had to. I would even argue they had enough land to grow more veggies, so why turn to eating people?

It did make for an interesting twist within the story, I just wouldnt agree with that if I were part of the writing staff unless they decided for some other reason the St. John's were already cannibles like the Texas Chainsaw Masacre who killed people for the meat in their chili.

They had food and rational people do not resort to eating each other unless there is absolutely no alternative.

Mornai · 12/28/2012, 03:00 pm

Seemed obvious to me. They give away the meat to trade for gas. Maybe it's not the only reason they resorted to cannibalism, but it's certainly a good point. They even mention this in the barn("Not the girl, though. Ain't enough meat on her to trade."). They need to trade food for gas as much as possible as often as possible to keep those generators running, which requires a truckload of food at all times. Not to mention how big that farm is.

Adding that they need to eat as well, the food they have stocked up simply won't cut it. Even more, they need to constantly give food to the bandits so they'll stop harassing them. With so much food they have to be giving away for gas and protection, AND to eat, chopping up a few humans to ease the job doesn't seem too implausible.

07/23/2012, 02:49 pm	#32
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07/23/2012, 04:02 pm	#34
Milosuperspesh V3.0 The shining Join Date: May 2011 Location: Wai soh Sirius ? Posts: 3,169	again with the killing... will no one think of the children please someone think of the children... __________________ https://www.facebook.com/pages/KIQCS/311661538927832 I am Sir Milo of Smeg https://www.facebook.com/#!/SaveCarley My soul tastes like butterscotch pudding Mentored by Mr flibble Sorry the aloe vera ran out for those burns.

12/28/2012, 01:08 pm	#39
WowMutt Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 408	I had a minor issue with the whole cannibale thing as it was only 3 months into the ZA. The had food.. The had all that corn, a cow for milk and butter and even to eat if they absolutely had to. I would even argue they had enough land to grow more veggies, so why turn to eating people? It did make for an interesting twist within the story, I just wouldnt agree with that if I were part of the writing staff unless they decided for some other reason the St. John's were already cannibles like the Texas Chainsaw Masacre who killed people for the meat in their chili. They had food and rational people do not resort to eating each other unless there is absolutely no alternative. __________________ *Disclaimer* 90% of all my post's are intended to include humor and should not be taken too seriously!

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07/20/2012, 09:30 am	#21
Master of Aeons Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,685	Oh my god, they're cannibals!

07/20/2012, 02:32 pm	#23
izzywozzy Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 77	I think they took advantage of the situation, where Mark was some helpless free meal that they could butcher easily, and they wouldn't be questioned about it if he died.

07/20/2012, 03:34 pm	#24
CVVF Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2	you know, I thought of something: The group brought Mark in because he had food, Lilly then said that his food was running out and they didn't need him. He ended up becoming food. BTW: First post woo

07/20/2012, 03:54 pm	#25
fanganga Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 56	On my first playthrough I was conflicted when Lee ran to stop the party eating - the whole game had been setting up just how desperate the party's food situation was, so I was thinking "Is cannibalism what we need to do to survive now? Am I about to doom everyone to starvation by hanging onto pre-crisis squeamishness?" and that guilt led to me ultimately cutting the family too much slack for "doing what they had to do", when in retrospect the traps, the severity of Mark's shoulder wound and the other food should have made it clear that they were murdering people, and they weren't cannibals out of necessity (although perhaps selling the meat to the bandits was the only thing stopping them from being killed by bandits, or walkers when the gas ran out). I find it interesting how they all deal with their complicity in different ways - Danny seems to enjoy it, Brenda justifies it, and Andy seems to be in denial - when he's shouting at Lee at the end, he says "You did all this! We just wanted gas!"

07/22/2012, 04:57 am	#28
fanganga Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 56	I'm not saying he's not complicit. I'm saying he deals with his guilt by shutting it out whenever he can.

07/22/2012, 05:28 am	#30
fanganga Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 56	I wouldn't say Andy's naive - certainly not in the "Oh gorsh, Danny, why'd ya want the release latches off them traps?" way. He certainly knows what he's doing when he modifies the traps, triggers the fence on Lee and Mark and plans what to do with the prisoners. He lies more effectively than Danny or Brenda, and I think he can do that because he's able to fool himself into believing that they're not eating people - and I'm taking the fact that he sticks with the lie under extreme stress, and when it's painfully obvious to the player that he's lying as evidence of that. Dude's seriously messed up, but messed up in a different way to the others and in retrospect a scarier way because he can calmly do evil, then behave as if nothing bad has happened, because he genuinely believes that's the case.

07/23/2012, 04:00 pm	#33
Galdis Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 97	No, of course it wasn't necessary. They were all lunatics. Hence why I killed them. Also, to starve out the bandits.

07/23/2012, 04:10 pm	#35
skepticalguy90 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 266	Didn't feel the need to kill them. Danny was zombie food with his leg screwed up, and I didn't see Andy getting away after Lee put a whooping on him.

12/28/2012, 03:00 pm	#40
Mornai Always Have Hope Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ohio, U.S.A. Posts: 1,034	Seemed obvious to me. They give away the meat to trade for gas. Maybe it's not the only reason they resorted to cannibalism, but it's certainly a good point. They even mention this in the barn("Not the girl, though. Ain't enough meat on her to trade."). They need to trade food for gas as much as possible as often as possible to keep those generators running, which requires a truckload of food at all times. Not to mention how big that farm is. Adding that they need to eat as well, the food they have stocked up simply won't cut it. Even more, they need to constantly give food to the bandits so they'll stop harassing them. With so much food they have to be giving away for gas and protection, AND to eat, chopping up a few humans to ease the job doesn't seem too implausible.