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WowMutt · 08/15/2012, 09:46 am

For me the answer is both Yes and No.. At times..

I sided with Kenny in the meat locker and smashed Larry's head with the salt lick for 2 reasons.
1. Kenny was right, Larry would have been dangerous as a zombie in there.
2. Larry punched Lee and left him for the zombies at the end of EP1. Payback!

After I killed Larry and saw Clem's reaction, I did feel bad she saw that, possibly hurting the trust she has for Lee, but that wouldnt have changed my decision.

I also killed one of the St.John bothers, in the barn with the pitchfork because they were going to kill and eat us.. I didnt even see Clem was there til after I killed him and she screams Noooo! If I had seen her standing there, I proably wouldnt have.

I did let the other St.John brother live and left with the group, I figured all the walkers would get him anyways.

I also looted the car regardless of Clems opinion. We needed the food and supplies, Lee is an adult, she's a 8yo lil girl. I (Lee) knows better.

We are fighting to survive and the moral issues have very little if any place in this world.

In addition, I personally consider Clem to be a burden to my Lee's survival!
I like her well enough and I play this game intent on keeping her safe, but If I were given the option to leave her with Kenny and Katja and Duck, I would in a heartbeat.

She's not my (Lee's) daughter, she is small and slow and every time she get's grabbed, it's Lee that must risk his life to save her.

Yes, she brought Lee a hammer to help him kill the babysitter!
Yes, she got the cane to help secure the door.
Yes, she fit through the AC duct and opened the door.

I realize she is not useless in certain cases, but overall when struggling to survive a zombie apocalypse I would much rather have someone who could hold their own than a hand I have to hold!

Would I risk my life to save her? proably, yes. Depends on the moment!
Would I sacrifice my life to save her? HELL NO!

ruairi46 · 08/15/2012, 10:34 am

I havent decided if my lee would die for clem or not, hes taking the father figure at the moment.

The_Cheshire_Cat · 08/15/2012, 10:37 am

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Originally Posted by ruairi46

I havent decided if my lee would die for clem or not, hes taking the father figure at the moment.

respectable role. That's what I use as well.

ruairi46 · 08/15/2012, 10:55 am

Yeah im being straight with her in every situation and im never lieing to her, but I will kill anyone to defend the group. I told her that they need to die and I wasent sorry.

The_Cheshire_Cat · 08/15/2012, 11:22 am

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Originally Posted by ruairi46

Yeah im being straight with her in every situation and im never lieing to her, but I will kill anyone to defend the group. I told her that they need to die and I wasent sorry.

I too am straight with her, I even picked the option to tell her that Lee killed a man. And that he was not a Zombie.

But I couldn't bring myself to kill those two blokes. They were already down, and out, and were just baiting.

ommmnomnomnom · 08/15/2012, 11:29 am

Humanity is already low as it is...and saving yourself and 3 others isn't really showing lack of compassion your fellow man, kenny was correct in acting fast, resuscitation has an incredibly low survival rate despite what movies say. Clem is still only a child and being indecisive in a zombie apocalypse would prove fatal, better teach her to be tough early on than sugar coat reality and end up dead

Warfolomei · 08/15/2012, 11:34 am

Have you seen Andy's expression if you answer with |Their not coming| damm that was heartbreaking. Being eaten by their own parent is a much crueler fate.
BTW.. the conversation about killing the it\babysitter. Easy question, but the answers confused me ... Yes, would be the obvious choice .. I think so, is understandable... No someone else did is just confusing, because she was standing in front of you.

ruairi46 · 08/15/2012, 11:37 am

He was eating mark so I wanted to know that I ended his life. Karma's a bitch.

Warfolomei · 08/15/2012, 11:46 am

... The dead are rising and eating the living, would you say its a retribution for something ?

The_Cheshire_Cat · 08/15/2012, 12:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Warfolomei

Have you seen Andy's expression if you answer with |Their not coming| damm that was heartbreaking. Being eaten by their own parent is a much crueler fate.
BTW.. the conversation about killing the it\babysitter. Easy question, but the answers confused me ... Yes, would be the obvious choice .. I think so, is understandable... No someone else did is just confusing, because she was standing in front of you.

"Something else did"

Is reference to her "non human" state. you know eating people etc etc.

Warfolomei · 08/15/2012, 12:09 pm

Yes, but she asked about IT, obviously a zombie and not the human babysitter.
So what is she asking us and what do we really answer her ?

The_Cheshire_Cat · 08/15/2012, 12:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Warfolomei

Yes, but she asked about IT, obviously a zombie and not the human babysitter.
So what is she asking us and what do we really answer her ?

Not sure I follow you anymore.

But um..I figure you gotta look at it from her 9 year old mind. That is maybe her first up close look at one of the zombies and doesn't understand what is going on.

The answers is whatever choice you think is best when trying to explain the ZA to a 9 year old. Tough work.

WowMutt · 08/15/2012, 12:29 pm

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Originally Posted by The_Cheshire_Cat

Not sure I follow you anymore.

But um..I figure you gotta look at it from her 9 year old mind. That is maybe her first up close look at one of the zombies and doesn't understand what is going on.

The answers is whatever choice you think is best when trying to explain the ZA to a 9 year old. Tough work.

Also if you keep in mind that in TWD world, Kirkman has said that there are no zombies in the culture. There have never been zombie movies and everything we would now about zombies, the characters would not know.

That's why people think the zombie just to be crazy or sick.

So it's explaining to a 8yo girl something our characters have no clue about either!

The_Cheshire_Cat · 08/15/2012, 12:32 pm

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Originally Posted by WowMutt

Also if you keep in mind that in TWD world, Kirkman has said that there are no zombies in the culture. There have never been zombie movies and everything we would now about zombies, the characters would not know.

That's why people think the zombie just to be crazy or sick.

So it's explaining to a 8yo girl something our characters have no clue about either!

Did not know that. Been reading the comics and watching a little bit of the show and I never knew that. Where can I find that information?

Warfolomei · 08/15/2012, 12:54 pm

Oooou, so it's one of those tell the truth or lie kind of answears. For me they just all sounded the same, but with a different context.

Robert Kirkman explains this in the second episode of Talking Dead, a companion TV show that follows the new episode reruns on AMC:

One of the things about this world is that people don't know how to shoot people in the head at first, and they're not familiar with zombies, per se," Kirkman said on Talking Dead. "This isn't a world the (George) Romero movies exist, for instance … because we don't want to portray it that way, we felt like having them be saying 'zombie' all the time would harken back to all of the zombie films which we, in the real world, know about.

That's also why they call them "walkers," "roamers" and such. The word rarely used in the universe's lexicon (never in the show). The comic makes mention of the word in a joking context about how silly it is to call them Zombies; as well the game has the word used in chapter two when talking to on of the students met at the beginning.

Milosuperspesh · 08/15/2012, 02:39 pm

imo kirkman was talking bullshit...

a world with out a zombie culture? really ?

lay off the crack pipe people...

even with a zombie cultre there are still people who don't realise whats going on or what to do...

Warfolomei · 08/15/2012, 02:49 pm

Korean walker: MOOOAAAAN
Walt Kowalski: Yeah? I blow a hole in your face and then I go in the house... and I sleep like a baby. You can count on that. We used to stack fucks like you five feet high in Korea... use you for sandbags.

godzilla999666 · 08/15/2012, 03:14 pm

Kirkman also explained his stance on tneworldculture not knowing about zombies in the letter pages of the comics.

Cyreen · 08/15/2012, 03:18 pm

Which would explain why they call them "Walkers" rather than Zombies.

I can't really say that Clementine has influenced my decisions, but I definitely feel responsible for her well being, she's a good character.

WowMutt · 08/15/2012, 11:24 pm

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Originally Posted by The_Cheshire_Cat

Did not know that. Been reading the comics and watching a little bit of the show and I never knew that. Where can I find that information?

Try AMC.com or youtube. It was during a episode of Talking Dead in an interview. I always wondered too why in the TV series they never used the term 'zombie' ut it was answered by Kirkman in that interview.

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08/15/2012, 09:46 am	#21
WowMutt Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 408	For me the answer is both Yes and No.. At times.. I sided with Kenny in the meat locker and smashed Larry's head with the salt lick for 2 reasons. 1. Kenny was right, Larry would have been dangerous as a zombie in there. 2. Larry punched Lee and left him for the zombies at the end of EP1. Payback! After I killed Larry and saw Clem's reaction, I did feel bad she saw that, possibly hurting the trust she has for Lee, but that wouldnt have changed my decision. I also killed one of the St.John bothers, in the barn with the pitchfork because they were going to kill and eat us.. I didnt even see Clem was there til after I killed him and she screams Noooo! If I had seen her standing there, I proably wouldnt have. I did let the other St.John brother live and left with the group, I figured all the walkers would get him anyways. I also looted the car regardless of Clems opinion. We needed the food and supplies, Lee is an adult, she's a 8yo lil girl. I (Lee) knows better. We are fighting to survive and the moral issues have very little if any place in this world. In addition, I personally consider Clem to be a burden to my Lee's survival! I like her well enough and I play this game intent on keeping her safe, but If I were given the option to leave her with Kenny and Katja and Duck, I would in a heartbeat. She's not my (Lee's) daughter, she is small and slow and every time she get's grabbed, it's Lee that must risk his life to save her. Yes, she brought Lee a hammer to help him kill the babysitter! Yes, she got the cane to help secure the door. Yes, she fit through the AC duct and opened the door. I realize she is not useless in certain cases, but overall when struggling to survive a zombie apocalypse I would much rather have someone who could hold their own than a hand I have to hold! Would I risk my life to save her? proably, yes. Depends on the moment! Would I sacrifice my life to save her? HELL NO!

08/15/2012, 10:34 am	#22
ruairi46 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: England Posts: 343	I havent decided if my lee would die for clem or not, hes taking the father figure at the moment.

08/15/2012, 10:55 am	#24
ruairi46 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: England Posts: 343	Yeah im being straight with her in every situation and im never lieing to her, but I will kill anyone to defend the group. I told her that they need to die and I wasent sorry.

08/15/2012, 11:29 am	#26
ommmnomnomnom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 296	Humanity is already low as it is...and saving yourself and 3 others isn't really showing lack of compassion your fellow man, kenny was correct in acting fast, resuscitation has an incredibly low survival rate despite what movies say. Clem is still only a child and being indecisive in a zombie apocalypse would prove fatal, better teach her to be tough early on than sugar coat reality and end up dead

08/15/2012, 11:34 am	#27
Warfolomei Living Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Finland Posts: 134	Have you seen Andy's expression if you answer with \|Their not coming\| damm that was heartbreaking. Being eaten by their own parent is a much crueler fate. BTW.. the conversation about killing the it\babysitter. Easy question, but the answers confused me ... Yes, would be the obvious choice .. I think so, is understandable... No someone else did is just confusing, because she was standing in front of you.

08/15/2012, 11:37 am	#28
ruairi46 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: England Posts: 343	He was eating mark so I wanted to know that I ended his life. Karma's a bitch.

08/15/2012, 11:46 am	#29
Warfolomei Living Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Finland Posts: 134	... The dead are rising and eating the living, would you say its a retribution for something ?

08/15/2012, 12:09 pm	#31
Warfolomei Living Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Finland Posts: 134	Yes, but she asked about IT, obviously a zombie and not the human babysitter. So what is she asking us and what do we really answer her ?

08/15/2012, 12:54 pm	#35
Warfolomei Living Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Finland Posts: 134	Oooou, so it's one of those tell the truth or lie kind of answears. For me they just all sounded the same, but with a different context. Robert Kirkman explains this in the second episode of Talking Dead, a companion TV show that follows the new episode reruns on AMC: One of the things about this world is that people don't know how to shoot people in the head at first, and they're not familiar with zombies, per se," Kirkman said on Talking Dead. "This isn't a world the (George) Romero movies exist, for instance … because we don't want to portray it that way, we felt like having them be saying 'zombie' all the time would harken back to all of the zombie films which we, in the real world, know about. That's also why they call them "walkers," "roamers" and such. The word rarely used in the universe's lexicon (never in the show). The comic makes mention of the word in a joking context about how silly it is to call them Zombies; as well the game has the word used in chapter two when talking to on of the students met at the beginning.

08/15/2012, 02:49 pm	#37
Warfolomei Living Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Finland Posts: 134	Korean walker: MOOOAAAAN Walt Kowalski: Yeah? I blow a hole in your face and then I go in the house... and I sleep like a baby. You can count on that. We used to stack fucks like you five feet high in Korea... use you for sandbags.

08/15/2012, 03:14 pm	#38
godzilla999666 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kansas bred and born Posts: 125	Kirkman also explained his stance on tneworldculture not knowing about zombies in the letter pages of the comics.

08/15/2012, 03:18 pm	#39
Cyreen In base four! I'm fine! Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,339	Which would explain why they call them "Walkers" rather than Zombies. I can't really say that Clementine has influenced my decisions, but I definitely feel responsible for her well being, she's a good character.