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Old 08/18/2012, 08:36 am   #1
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Situation: Comedy Men thinking w/ their heads? Women & Choices

In every major game decision involving a man and woman, woman have come been heavily favorited.

75% chose Carley over Doug

87% choose not to shot Jolene

68% tried to help Lilly revive Larry, a guy that tried to kill you

Do you think it's coincidence or are men choosing women for other reasons, like possibly sex or romance?

Sometimes, like with Larry, it defies ration. He's not only a danger alive, he's clearly going to die and be a bigger threat.

If Katjaa where in a life or death situation I'm curious if guys would be so heroic. She older, not physically as attractive as Carley or Lilly, married w/ a kid. Personally, I think men would be less likely to help, like if it was Katjaa or Doug's life or helping Katjaa revive Kenny. You never know but it would be cool to test it out in an episode.
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Old 08/18/2012, 08:43 am   #2
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Imo, I don't save the women because of sexual reasons. I saved Carley because she knew how to handle a gun. I didn't shoot Jolene because she was spilling beans about herself and the bandits. Also, I helped Lilly in the meat locker because I thought that Larry had a chance of surviving.
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Old 08/18/2012, 09:24 am   #3
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Well I saved doug, Attempted to soot jolene but there was jsut a crosshair on her. But I did save larry all of these choices were not effected in anyway by woman. I am a straight male. I do what choices I believe in.
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Old 08/18/2012, 10:02 am   #4
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I've been watching some playthroughs on youtube and reading some comments on the forums and some guys mention sex or romance. There's even a few popular threads about romance.

In all those situation, it does seem like the right thing to do. Maybe the writers need to do a better job challenging us to really figure this out.
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Old 08/18/2012, 10:03 am   #5
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Tough to say but you may be on to something here. It might help if TTG released who got the food (really a snack) that Lee was distributing. I'm sure Clem got one of the food items but who got the other three? Women or men.
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Old 08/18/2012, 10:33 am   #6
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Tough to say but you may be on to something here. It might help if TTG released who got the food (really a snack) that Lee was distributing. I'm sure Clem got one of the food items but who got the other three? Women or men.
They did. In order of popularity, it was Clem, Duck, Mark and Larry.

Keep in mind Carley rejects the food and Lilly refuses it also (unless you're persistent). Kids are kids so... And feeding Larry makes Lilly happy.

Maybe the writers are making the appealing decisions so, but there is no instance when the majority of players don't side with the attractive woman on major decisions.

Even killing Danny St. John, Lilly says "I should kill you." She doesn't, but the majority of players do and yet spare the other brother. It's interesting b/c Lilly seems a little disappointed if you did kill Danny.

Guys can list other reasons for their choices, and maybe it just coincidence, but the motives are suspect.

I'll admit have thought and continue to think about future romantic relationships with Carley or Lilly. I'd probably be kidding myself if I said it didn't influence my decisions.

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Old 08/18/2012, 10:40 am   #7
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Interesting title and how do you account for female players? I chose Carley, didn't kill the brothers (they were hoard food anyway), and tried to save Larry, and the only character I find attractive is Lee, except when he does his whipped puppy thing.
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Old 08/18/2012, 11:25 am   #8
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Carley directly saves your life by shooting the zombie you're trying to keep off of Clementine.

Joline was in the midst of a monologue with plenty of dialogue options left.

Choosing to help Lily probably has more to do with players not wanting to kill one of their group members rather than her sex. Or they just hate Kenny - which is easy because of Duck.
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Old 08/18/2012, 11:29 am   #9
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I for one chose to save Doug and I shot Jolene first chance I got!

It's not based on the sex of the characters, (for me) it's who do I think will be the most beneficial (to me) or if they are a threat, regardless of gender.

I too have watched quite alot of the youtube playthroughs mostly because I enjoy the commentary from those playing it the first time.. I like to hear them react to a scarey moment or tough decision.

But also realize it's a vast majority of males who play this game and make those video's, knowing they have an audience and cant help but say things like "oh hell yea i'm saving the girl, I can use her later! LOL"

Typical guy when he knows there's people watching.

One could also argue that a female playing this would choose to save Carley and not shoot Jolene as wanting to stick together. Girl Power so to speak!

But as I've said before, when I play this, I really try to imagine myself in the world of a ZA and focus on what I would do in that situation, not what I think would be the popular decision or make the viewers laugh!

Zombies dont care if your a pretty girl or nerdy guy. Equal opportunity for all.

hmmm maybe we could all learn something from zombies about equality!
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Old 08/18/2012, 02:56 pm   #10
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For me personally I picked Carley because she saved my life twice and Doug didnt really have the best introductions imo. I didn't shoot Jolene because I was curious about what else she would say and it was obvious she wansn't with the bandits. In the meatlocker room I thought Larry could still be saved and hes an useful asset to the group.


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I too have watched quite alot of the youtube playthroughs mostly because I enjoy the commentary from those playing it the first time.. I like to hear them react to a scarey moment or tough decision.
offtopic: Do you have any recommendations of ppl who did a lets play of this. The ones I found were mainly by ppl who already played through it once.
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Old 08/18/2012, 03:04 pm   #11
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For me personally I picked Carley because she saved my life twice and Doug didnt really have the best introductions imo. I didn't shoot Jolene because I was curious about what else she would say and it was obvious she wansn't with the bandits. In the meatlocker room I thought Larry could still be saved and hes an useful asset to the group.




offtopic: Do you have any recommendations of ppl who did a lets play of this. The ones I found were mainly by ppl who already played through it once.
one of my personal favorites is Hannah.. She's a Brit lady so she was fun to listen to.

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Old 08/18/2012, 03:34 pm   #12
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Do you think it's coincidence or are men choosing women for other reasons, like possibly sex or romance?
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Guys can list other reasons for their choices, and maybe it just coincidence, but the motives are suspect.
I understand that people like that exist but you are generalising. I'm a man, and here were my decisions:

I rescued Carly because she knew how to handle a gun. If Doug had been the one who knew how to shoot, then I would have chosen him instead. I shot Jolene when she threatened to go to the farm and kill everyone. I killed Larry because he was about to come back as a zombie.

Also, roughly 30-40% of gamers are female; not less than 5% which many are lead to believe.

I really couldn't care less whether or not there are any romance options later on.

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Old 08/18/2012, 04:28 pm   #13
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im sure a good part of the choices where made by thinking in a possible future romance outcome.

However on my main save i saved doug, did not shot jolene, and tried to save larry not because of trying to romance a crazy woman from the forest but because thats how my lee roll doesn't kills anyone because he can.
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Old 08/18/2012, 04:32 pm   #14
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I did rescue Carley because she was a woman, and I was aware that most would choose her the moment I saw that decision come up. As much as 'my' Lee would probably like to tap that technologically-oblivious white meat, I didn't do it because I expected to see some melons.

Still, if Lee was a woman, I may have rescued the other guy, er... Doug instead.
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Old 08/18/2012, 05:29 pm   #16
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I didn't try save Larry on the off-chance Lee would get to bone Lilly. I did it because I couldn't let an old man suffer a slow death from a heart attack nor was I going to crush the man's skull in. No matter how big an asshole he's been. Especially after hearing why he is such an asshole.

I saved Doug because why the hell not? And at the time I thought there would be a chance to save both him and Carley.

I didn't shoot Jolene because I wanted to see if I could talk her down.
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Old 08/18/2012, 05:50 pm   #17
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I dunno, I saved Carley because she had the gun, that was my main reason, in retrospect I would honestly save Doug but, keeping my decisions and whatnot.
Jolene, I didn't shoot her simply because I wanted answers about Clem and maybe she could be talked down.
Siding with Lily in the meatlocker, that was in no one because she was a girl, I just didn't think Larry was actually dead yet.
Of course, this is just me, not sure what others feel.
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I dunno, I saved Carley because she had the gun, that was my main reason, in retrospect I would honestly save Doug but, keeping my decisions and whatnot.
Jolene, I didn't shoot her simply because I wanted answers about Clem and maybe she could be talked down.
Siding with Lily in the meatlocker, that was in no one because she was a girl, I just didn't think Larry was actually dead yet.
Of course, this is just me, not sure what others feel.
tbh, I for one didnt care if he was actually dead or not!

after the pharmacy, when i risked my life to aquire his nitro pill's to have him punch my Lee in the face leaving him for the zombies, I swore then at first chance, Larry was dead.

meatlocker was that first opportunity! I didnt even give Kenny the honor!
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Old 08/18/2012, 06:32 pm   #19
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Well I'm a man, and I chose Doug because I thought he had more to offer. All Carley had was a gun and I was sure we'd all find some and train ourselves eventually like the people in the comic/show. I did not shoot Jolene cause I didn't think she'd actually shoot me right away and she seemed to have info on the farm and brothers that they we're trying to hide so I wanted to hear what she had to say. As for the meat locker scene I helped Kenny because the chance of Larry coming back and being okay without medication or proper CPR was very unlikely, at best we could have delayed his death.
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Old 08/18/2012, 07:05 pm   #20
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I only picked Carley because she knew how to shoot. When I saw that after the timeskip everyone could shoot, I felt better about gambling on Doug in the second playthrough. Doug's way more useful. I still don't think about the romantic opportunity with Carley.
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