Larry - a better understanding

[alithanar8]

I killed Larry for two major reasons and about 2 or 3 minor reasons... the first major reason was the fact that in Ep 1: HE. PUNCHED. ME. AND. LEFT. ME. TO. DIE! The second was that with him not regaining consciousness and how quickly the teacher turned, there was no way kenny and lee could put him down in such an enclosed area before they were bitten. The minor reasons were his personality was basically poison for the entire group, he had nothing but rough spots and treated nobody except his daughter and clem like they were actually people. Lee got the worst but, he generally treated everyone like crap, that is not someone I would want around Clem or Duck.

[Clippersfan86]

Originally Posted by alithanar8

I killed Larry for two major reasons and about 2 or 3 minor reasons... the first major reason was the fact that in Ep 1: HE. PUNCHED. ME. AND. LEFT. ME. TO. DIE! The second was that with him not regaining consciousness and how quickly the teacher turned, there was no way kenny and lee could put him down in such an enclosed area before they were bitten. The minor reasons were his personality was basically poison for the entire group, he had nothing but rough spots and treated nobody except his daughter and clem like they were actually people. Lee got the worst but, he generally treated everyone like crap, that is not someone I would want around Clem or Duck.

Exactly. If I saw a flash of a good man in Larry I may have spared him but many months of being with him and zero change or flash of a kind side from him? F him.

[ruairi46]

Originally Posted by Clippersfan86

Exactly. If I saw a flash of a good man in Larry I may have spared him but many months of being with him and zero change or flash of a kind side from him? F him.

See him talk to the woman on the farm.

[Clippersfan86]

Originally Posted by ruairi46

See him talk to the woman on the farm.

Flirting with a woman who's pure evil? His so called instincts and the only people he was convinced were good were the REALLY bad people on the farm. He's a serious liability and risk.

[jaybreezy]

Originally Posted by ruairi46

See him talk to the woman on the farm.

That turned out well for the both of them. Maybe they'll hook up.... In hell mwahahahaha

[Milosuperspesh]

Originally Posted by jaybreezy

That turned out well for the both of them. Maybe they'll hook up.... In hell mwahahahaha

don't think brenda would go for man with a salt lick for a head...

[Xirsche]

Originally Posted by alithanar8

I killed Larry for two major reasons and about 2 or 3 minor reasons... the first major reason was the fact that in Ep 1: HE. PUNCHED. ME. AND. LEFT. ME. TO. DIE! The second was that with him not regaining consciousness and how quickly the teacher turned, there was no way kenny and lee could put him down in such an enclosed area before they were bitten. The minor reasons were his personality was basically poison for the entire group, he had nothing but rough spots and treated nobody except his daughter and clem like they were actually people. Lee got the worst but, he generally treated everyone like crap, that is not someone I would want around Clem or Duck.

Wel, in regards to your second major reason, dying via bleeding out and being unconscious from a heart problem are two different things. Larry could've been revived if the procedure went perfectly. David was a lost cause because he died by bleeding out; he was beyond help. Larry could've at least been revived on a good chance, and only would've died if his heart persistently malfunctioned even during his resuscitation.

[Cyreen]

Originally Posted by ruairi46

See him talk to the woman on the farm.

Larry flirting with Brenda had nothing to do with a softer "good" side. That was merely a man attempting to manipulate a woman with his self-inflated charm for his own ends. It wasn't about her.

[Rock114]

I thought Larry really liked her, and enjoyed seeing him open his mouth without insulting Lee, or anyone else for that matter, for once. He made me laugh a few times too in Ep2 with some of his off-color comments. I thought there was more depth to him, but he'd never let anyone see it because he was so close-minded. I'll miss him as a character, but I'm sure that i'm not the only one who had him pegged to die from the moment we saw him.

Just didn't think it'd be like that. Yeesh Kenny...

[skepticalguy90]

Originally Posted by Xirsche

Wel, in regards to your second major reason, dying via bleeding out and being unconscious from a heart problem are two different things. Larry could've been revived if the procedure went perfectly. David was a lost cause because he died by bleeding out; he was beyond help. Larry could've at least been revived on a good chance, and only would've died if his heart persistently malfunctioned even during his resuscitation.

Actually if Larry had a real heart attack, CPR is delaying tactic in order to allow for defibrillation. Most people do not wake up after receiving just CPR. Without something to shock Larry's heart and get it back into a normal rhythm, he was done for (If it was a massive heart attack).

[Milosuperspesh]

larry was sweet talking her to make sure he got fed and possibly other home comforts...

[Master of Aeons]

Larry and Brenda: When the bear is hungry, he will eat.

[ruairi46]

Imo larry was good, I believe his personality is just do/say what he feals think about it later. He tries to save you if you give him the axe. He could of not.

[Cyreen]

Originally Posted by ruairi46

He tries to save you if you give him the axe.

Yes, but only because his daughter is watching that time.

[j.em26]

Actually, just to back this guy up.
Larry might seem like an ass at times, but he's actually one of the character who truly displays the personality of an actual survivor trying to survive in the real world.

This, I can tell you.
I know how much everyone hates Larry for all the things you've done.
But frankly, if you tried to be nice to Larry, you'd actually find that he's got a bit of rationality when he talks like mentioning how he gets cranky when he gets no rations at all.
All the time, he's been trying very hard to suppress his anger, plus who would actually deliberately cause their own heart attack to occur again ? That's just crazy.

Whatever he does at the very end prior to his death was aimed at ensuring Lilly gets all the care and privilege that she needs. And that's why I honestly don't blame him for acting that way.

Either way, people can boo at me for taking sides with Larry, no matter what we do, that man is destined to die at Chapter 2, so the very least we can do is give the character some understanding and empathy.

[Rommel49]

Originally Posted by Clippersfan86

There is no better understanding. If you're talking about a realistic scenario this douche cheapshotted you, almost getting you killed DESPITE you going out of your way to get him pills and save his life. I helped Larry kill him and didn't even think twice about it. He's a danger to Clementine, Lee and quite frankly anybody besides his daughter. Too much of a loose cannon.

It's unlikely Larry even knew you got him his pills at the time, the guy was pretty much semi-conscious the whole time right up until it was time to evacuate the Drug Store.

There's also the fact he knows Lee's a convicted murderer (who just happens to not be in prison). Most of us would probably hesitate to trust a guy convicted of theft around our valuables, trusting a convicted murderer around our family? No thank you.

Hell, Kenny's a bigger danger to the group. Freezes on Hershel's farm (thereby allowing Shawn to get eaten), ran over people that were asking for help by Katjaa's account, shouts to strangers in a city that obviously went down the crapper, doesn't help the rest of the group in camp (he's the only "man" in the group that won't help Lee with the pickup walker), etc.

[alithanar8]

I seem to remember when Lee was talking to Lily in the drug store; Lee mentioned her dad having a temper and Larry said "Ah, F*** you" and Lily said "He doesn't mean it". So as of that I am willing to believe that Larry was fully aware of everything around him.

As for the whole convicted killer thing, Lee had been nothing but helpful and diplomatic towards pretty much everyone in the group, he is actively looking out for Clem, he helps with the hunting, pretty much Lee does any job that needs to be done. I would be more then willing to give him the benefit of the doubt taking into account all he has done.

And from what I gathered in Katjaa's account, Kenny ran over walkers not living people. And I can understand Kennys position, I might not agree with it but if I had a wife and son to look out for I would place their safety first and considering the hell that Atlanta was in, his willingness to keep driving probably saved their lives. On the farm, Kenny's focus was on Duck, yeah he froze and I do consider that a strike against him, but he is only human.

[thestalkinghead]

i think if larry played the walking dead, he would kill larry.
i think if he had been dying slowly (bite/bleeding) he would have asked to be killed to not endanger his daughter, i might have felt bad about it if he was the type of guy that would beg for his life for the chance he might be immune or something, but larry made it clear that lee should not do anything that would risk lilly or Clementine's life, and i think letting a massive guy turn into a zombie in a locked room with lilly and Clementine would be something larry would not want to happen

[WowMutt]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

i think if larry played the walking dead, he would kill larry.
i think if he had been dying slowly (bite/bleeding) he would have asked to be killed to not endanger his daughter, i might have felt bad about it if he was the type of guy that would beg for his life for the chance he might be immune or something, but larry made it clear that lee should not do anything that would risk lilly or Clementine's life, and i think letting a massive guy turn into a zombie in a locked room with lilly and Clementine would be something larry would not want to happen

Great point!

As much as I disliked Larry, I think your spot on that he would have said "just shoot me" if he'd been bitten rather than risk turning into a walker and endanger his daughter.

However, I personally took the meat locker opportunity to kill Larry first chance I got mostly based on the incident in the pharmacy when he punched Lee and left him for the walkers. Larry attempted to kill Lee.. I wasnt going to wait around and give him a second chance to do it again!

I would even consider Lee being a convicted murderer as trivial during a zombie apocalypse.. As Lily said, "that's a skill that could come in handy" and so far, Lee has been as trusting, diplomatic and helpful to the group as possible!

As we are limited in our choices by TellTales story-line, we only have certain options to choose from. We have Clem to look out for and are kinda forced to make decisions based more on a moral viewpoint having Clem right there watching and questioning our decisions. If I didnt have to consider Clem, I myself would play Lee as much more ruthless and unforgiving. We have a world full of zombies trying to eat us, this is not the time to hesitate and decide what or what not to do based on if a little girl will think bad of me.

Sorry Clem you had to see me smash Larry's head with a salt lick, but the rest of us are alive because of it!

[Hudomonkey]

I had to save Larry because Clem couldn't see me as a Murderer.
Also at the end of trying to save him you can see that he is beginning to breath or even talk (well muttering) proving that if it wasn't for kenny he could have lived.
Larry tried to kill me but failed
I tried to Save Larry but failed
Kenny tried to kill Larry but Succeeded
I wish I could have saved Larry but we almost did and to be honest I'm not sure if we failed to save Larry only that Kenny killed Larry before we could prove that we had saved him