[SPOILERS from page 3]Logic says the Doug/Carly Will Die in Ep 3

[ItsMeArmani]

Originally Posted by skepticalguy90

Oh grow up. You didn't "know" anything. It's amusing to say I told you so, but let's just admit, there was no "logical basis" to your claims, you guessed and got lucky.

Exactly.

[Ja1862]

Originally Posted by skepticalguy90

Oh grow up. You didn't "know" anything. It's amusing to say I told you so, but let's just admit, there was no "logical basis" to your claims, you guessed and got lucky.

I'm sorry but here is my original post, explaining why I thought they would die.

Lots of examples for you to enjoy :-)


(Very true a smart person can tell by ep2 that the choice thing is bs, the story pans out exactly the same way just with tiny little dialogue changes.

There is no real choice, they didn't kill Doug/Carly in ep2 because people would be like "What was the point of that choice" so they kept them around but made sure they hardly appeared, hoping people wouldn't be able to tell that they do basically the same thing. Just with different weapons. So they just created Mark (a random guy) to fit their spot.

Now killing them in ep3 makes it look like the choice you made was actually important (or so they think), players are not idiots any person with sense can tell the point was ridiculous since it hasn't/wont play a major part in the story.

Come ep3 the choices will still be the same, nothing changes at all apart from tiny dialogue pieces.

Examples

Leave night/day - nothing happens that changes the story just a tiny different cut scene.

Save Shaun - Dies either way.

Kick duck out - Just one tiny bit of dialogue by Kenny in ep2 doesn't change the story one bit, he will say the same stuff he normally does to keep the story moving.

Save Doug or Carly - both do the exact same thing in ep2 just with different weapons and are hardly in it.

Cut teachers leg of - either way the story pans out exactly the scene apart from the opening cut scene.

Save Larry - Dies either way

Kill the St. John brothers - you can count on everything being the same, maybe just someone saying remember when you killed those guys etc.

Kenny/Lilly - nothing will change, the story will just branch out the same.

This = Choices being pointless, it pretends to be something it's not but any smart person who does a 2nd play through can tell how meaningless they really are. To get real choice within a story they would need to be better developers/bigger team and more time.

The way things are looking for the new Walking Dead game it sounds like that will actually have more choice as you choose to team up with people or kill them, that rite there is more choice then what we are actually given within this game.
Last edited by Ja1862; 08/26/2012 at 09:50 am.)


Is that enough logic for you as I used examples from past episodes to help prove my point on how choices are pointless/ how Doug and Carley are basically the same character on top of being background characters for episode 2, or was it that after all I was saying and guaranteeing they would die like many other posters I/we just got "lucky".

[TheWildcard]

Originally Posted by skepticalguy90

Oh grow up. You didn't "know" anything. It's amusing to say I told you so, but let's just admit, there was no "logical basis" to your claims, you guessed and got lucky.

There were a number of logical reasons they had to die which were brought up in this thread. People just didn't like or listen to these reasons...I actually would of been blown away had they lived through the episode.

[Ja1862]

Originally Posted by TheWildcard

There were a number of logical reasons they had to die which were brought up in this thread. People just didn't like or listen to these reasons...I actually would of been blown away had they lived through the episode.

Exactly.

[j.em26]

Originally Posted by Ja1862

Spoilerssssss


Sorry guys but I’m right as usual.


Well, I love how it feels when you can tell something’s going to happen before it does, I knew Telltale would cop-out on this, I knew the choices meant nothing but most of all I knew that some posters would say stuff like “Nah that won’t happen” / “how can you judge the games choices on the first 2 episodes” etc

I feel sorry for the few people within this forum that actually thought Telltale would deliver on this…

Okay, we get it.
You made some really valid points, your predictions came true.
I don't see how continue posting about how right you turned out to be will help you.

You do realize ever since yesterday, anything you say is essentially no different from rubbing salt on to your enemy's wounds right ?
So just quit it dude, most of us were disappointed and we wanna move on with attachments as well.

[eblocksonian]

I was actually surprised Doug/Carley even survived Episode 2. I pegged them as the ones to die in Episode 2. I was actually a bit surprised they chose a secondary character (Mark) and Larry to die before they did.

[Ja1862]

Originally Posted by j.em26

Okay, we get it.
You made some really valid points, your predictions came true.
I don't see how continue posting about how right you turned out to be will help you.

You do realize ever since yesterday, anything you say is essentially no different from rubbing salt on to your enemy's wounds right ?
So just quit it dude, most of us were disappointed and we wanna move on with attachments as well.

Sorry :-(

[GreenBoy]

i know Carley Dies because she was bitching on Lilly and made her MAD so she shot her. but what did Doug do...?

[Ja1862]

He gave telltale more work to do for each episode.

[NeonBlade]

Originally Posted by GreenBoy

i know Carley Dies because she was bitching on Lilly and made her MAD so she shot her. but what did Doug do...?

Doug was trying to reason it out with Lilly, calling for calm and evidence. He wasn't confrontational, just being rational.


When Lilly draws the Gun, Doug sees that she's going to shoot Ben and he dives pushes Ben out of the way and gets shot in the back of the head. Much, much better than how it transpired in Carleys scenario. Which was straight up homicide.

[Master of Aeons]

Lily: killing innocents is okay, but a baby is too much.

I still disagree with the "logic" in this thread, but Doug/Carley was succeeded by Darley 2.0. I saved the guy and both survived. Does Omid survive in both choices?

[zillacakes]

Originally Posted by Master of Aeons

Lily: killing innocents is okay, but a baby is too much.

I still disagree with the "logic" in this thread, but Doug/Carley was succeeded by Darley 2.0. I saved the guy and both survived. Does Omid survive in both choices?

Yeah. I saved Christa instead of him and he managed to crawl into the boxcar. (:

[Rambo297]

Ok, by your logic:
1. what about Kenny? He survived from Ep1, through now...
2. Carley/Doug, was at EP 1, and ONLY at beginning and end of ep2, then died in ep 3 (:\)
3. So you think, Ben will die in ep 4...?

[TheWildcard]

Originally Posted by Rambo297

Ok, by your logic:
1. what about Kenny? He survived from Ep1, through now...
2. Carley/Doug, was at EP 1, and ONLY at beginning and end of ep2, then died in ep 3 (:\)
3. So you think, Ben will die in ep 4...?

Umm. Try again and express yourself better?