[SPOILERS] CARLEY [Ep 3 discussion]

[Faramis]

She was not just grazed by the bullet. The bullet entered her skull through her forehead and left her skull at the back. There is simply no way for Carley to walk something like this off. Point blank penetration of skull is fatal, since brain is mostly liquid-like matter, that is keeping its volume through thin membrane and being enclosed in skull. If the bullet lodges itself in the brain without making exit hole, then there is slight chance of survival with high chance of living like vegetable for rest of the life, but again, point blank penetration of skull is fatal. So yeah, without any further ado - Carley brain was blown out and spilt on the ground. She is dead, time to move on.

[kingmartykim]

Originally Posted by Faramis

She was not just grazed by the bullet. The bullet entered her skull through her forehead and left her skull at the back. There is simply no way for Carley to walk something like this off. Point blank penetration of skull is fatal, since brain is mostly liquid-like matter, that is keeping its volume through thick membrane and being enclosed in skull. If the bullet lodges itself in the brain, then there is slight chance of survival, but again, point blank penetration of skull is fatal. So yeah, without any further ado - Carley brain was blown out and spilt on the ground. She is dead, time to move on.

It would be lovely to see her with an eyepatch or headband covering half her face coming to the rescue! Lee is saved once again by Carley

[dubesor]

Let's be honest for a second.

It was very obvious since episode 1 that both Carley and Doug (no matter your choice) would die pretty soon.

It is a money issue. If they let them live they had to make story/cutscenes/voice etc. for both and branch them out. Just letting them die is a cheap,easy solution.

It is lame I know, but they don't want to bother with making content that get's only viewed by 50% of the players (if even that).

On the one hand, I can understand. On the other hand, it is lame. Because again, choices don't seem to matter AT ALL.

Whether you choose carley or doug in EP1 makes absolutely zero (ZERO... NONE! NADA NIENTE) difference. Both have the exact same role, do the exact same things, the story continues the exact same way.

It didn't matter who you choose. It is kind of lame... tbh.
Of course we all wished for our choices to matter but in this game it just isn't the case.

Telltale don't wanna invest any money in making branches of story. So they simply kill the characters that your choices influenced. Lame? Yes. But they wanna save money...

I have no problem with it whatsoever, if only they didn't advertise and claim that your choices actually mattered, because after 3 episodes (60% of the game) with several different savegames and complete different choices I can't tell a difference between any of the savegames.

[ZombieGoBoom]

I hated Carley's death. There was nothing emotional or brilliant about that scene, just a cruel punch to the gut if you cared about her. You don't even have time to grieve, just exchange a few lines with Clem and Kat and she's nearly forgotten. It dampened my love for this game any excitement for episode 4. Carley's gone and she can't be brought back except maybe in a dream or flashback. I would like to think the pistol that Lee's uses towards the end is Carley's.

[kingmartykim]

Originally Posted by ZombieGoBoom

I hate Carley's death. There was nothing emotional or brilliant about that scene, just a cruel punch to the gut if you cared about her. You don't even have time to grieve, just exchange a few lines with Clem and Kat and she's nearly forgotten. It dampened my love for this game any excitement for episode 4. Carley's gone and she can't be brought back except maybe in a dream or flashback. I would like to think the pistol that Lee's uses towards the end is Carley's.

That is Carley's gun...isn't it????? or is it Lily's???

[ZombieGoBoom]

Originally Posted by kingmartykim

That is Carley's gun...isn't it????? or is it Lily's???

I will vomit if Lee is using the weapon that killed Carley. The pistol he is currently carrying is Carley's and that will be my version of things.

[adam5555]

Originally Posted by kingmartykim

That is Carley's gun...isn't it????? or is it Lily's???

i say carley's. you know they should have just killed off doug. (sorry doug fans, are there doug fans?) but that way we could still have carly the storys could differ and they would not have to have 2 voice actors. best of both worlds

[SaveCarley]

Oh come on!!!

[kingmartykim]

Originally Posted by adam5555

i say carley's. you know they should have just killed off doug. (sorry doug fans, are there doug fans?) but that way we could still have carly the storys could differ and they would not have to have 2 voice actors. best of both worlds

Right...but if its Carley's...then what about for the Doug version? He has to be carrying Lily's....especially when he tells Lily to drop the gun and we see the gun being dropped...but we never see Lee picking it up from Carley's dead body

[adam5555]

Originally Posted by kingmartykim

Right...but if its Carley's...then what about for the Doug version? He has to be carrying Lily's....especially when he tells Lily to drop the gun and we see the gun being dropped...but we never see Lee picking it up from Carley's dead body

yeah but if you choose to take lily with you i think lee gives ben lilys gun. ben sure as hell better not get carleys gun, or he is going to die slow.

[Dildor]

Originally Posted by ZombieGoBoom

I hated Carley's death. There was nothing emotional or brilliant about that scene, just a cruel punch to the gut if you cared about her. You don't even have time to grieve, just exchange a few lines with Clem and Kat and she's nearly forgotten.

It was emotional for me. It wasn't brilliant, it was cruel, and it happened fast. Nothing in this game so far has made me feel so shocked, angry, and close to Lee as Carly's death. I knew it was probably coming, but that didn't stop me from choking up in that RV. I probably would have ended up in complete tears if I didn't learn of some more pressing matters with Duck not too long after.

[Rock114]

Well, it's not like Lee controls everyone's actions 100% of the time or anything. Lilly is Lilly, Kenny is Kenny, and Kenny treats Lilly and everything else also effects her as much, or more than how you treat her. In my game I was wondering if it was my fault Carley died because I helped Kenny off Larry in the last episode. I really cared about Carley. I hate to see her go, and hate Lilly so much more. But hey, in reality we're not in control of anything or anyone but ourselves, so that's how I see the game. We only control Lee, and try to influence the people and things around us as much as we can. But the people with us are their own people, and the things that happen, happen. That's even what I said to Lilly about the supplies, "We'll deal with shit as it happens." That's kind of all that we can do now, right?

[iMuzzaa]

When I seen Lily taking out her gun, I knew what was about to happen and was like, "Nooo!"

*edit*

To all those who say the deaths weren't good enough... Welcome to the world of "The Walking Dead" where people die suddenly and there is no time for any goodbye's (For example at the end of the prison arc, for any comic readers). It's more realistic this way, and more true to The Walking Dead universe.

[ForgottenKnight]

Originally Posted by iMuzzaa

When I seen Lily taking out her gun, I knew what was about to happen and was like, "Nooo!"

*edit*

To all those who say the deaths weren't good enough... Welcome to the world of "The Walking Dead" where people die suddenly and there is no time for any goodbye's (For example at the end of the prison arc, for any comic readers). It's more realistic this way, and more true to The Walking Dead universe.

Well, but that wasn't like the end of the prision arc, they could have put Carley body to the RV, drive a little bit and then have some time to say goodbye.

[Khazmo]

Originally Posted by Galdis

A friend told me their friend was able to get Lilly to shoot Ben instead of Carley in the roadside confrontation... But we all know how reliable that sounds. Has anyone managed to do this by accusing Ben?

You say that, but I have read a couple of other people making claims that the dev's said there is a method of keeping her alive. Maybe there is a way, but it does seem rather unlikely.

[dubesor]

I have played three times now and never managed to get Lilly to shoot Ben.

save1: Carley, supported Lilly with the search, Went neutral/passive on the accusations on Ben -> Carley get's shot
save2: Carley, supported Lilly all the way, accused Ben all the way, Carley get's shot
Save 3: Doug, did not support Lilly with the search, did not support her with accusations-> Doug dead.

I doubt it's possible for any of your actions to actually matter on the income, because that has been the case for the last 3 episodes.

[Khazmo]

There is an option where you can admit to being the culprit, what does Lilly do then?

[darham175]

She told me "you're capable of being a real asshole, but I don't believe you." Then shoots Caroug.

[Abel]

Originally Posted by Khazmo

There is an option where you can admit to being the culprit, what does Lilly do then?

She doesn't believe it was Lee.

[Khazmo]

That sucks, they could at least have had her shooting Lee