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mkane24 · 08/30/2012, 08:09 am

If the game gives me the chance to kill ben, I will make the incident on the st john's farm look like Disney land

Greenpaw · 08/30/2012, 08:10 am

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Originally Posted by milosuperspesh

i question protecting clem in ep4 is she has another 'protector' is lee really going to have much luck ?

I do hope clem isn't doing an anakin skywalker...

you were the chosen one clementine you were suppose to rely on lee to get to savannah not some creepy radio guy!

Clem: I hate you!!!

The_Ripper · 08/30/2012, 08:15 am

Remorse it's enough punishment for the kid. We don't need more deaths. Killing Ben won't give me Carley back.

However I don't trust on him anymore.

ozzmann · 08/30/2012, 08:16 am

I NEVER liked Ben, from the git-go he seemed like a chump, Lee should have thrown the little traitorous bitch off the train!

StrawberryRainPop · 08/30/2012, 08:27 am

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Originally Posted by SouthWardRB

Either you saved Carley or Doug. These great characters shall be avenged. Yeah, Lilly killed them, BUT Ben was giving the extra stuff to the bandits, wich caused the whole thing.

These were great characters, ones who shouldn't be forgotten. Ben, a stupid little teenager who is more scared of everything then a 12 year old.

Please, by joining this thread, you 100% guarantee that you WILL kill Ben, at the first time you get.

Yes i WILL kill him. When the chance comes out, i will even post a screenshot of it.

SAVE CARLEY PROJECT PLEASE

ZombieGoBoom · 08/30/2012, 08:30 am

I don't think all the clever writing in the world will make me forgive Ben for getting Carley killed. I never hesitated in leaving Lilly behind and I would have thrown Ben from the train if given the chance.

Peace&Love · 08/30/2012, 02:53 pm

Damn, are you the guys that lynch people because you're angry? Ben simply tried to help the group. An eye for an eye...

Strayth · 08/30/2012, 05:53 pm

Lilly was immortal due to her comics appearance.

I want THE OPTIONS to make Ben suffer.

And then I want to kill him myself.

HeyMyNameIsRyan · 08/30/2012, 05:55 pm

I wanted to kick him off the train King Leonidas style. Telltale, why was this not an option?

Master of Aeons · 08/30/2012, 05:56 pm

THIS - IS - HACKNEYED!!!i!!!

HeyMyNameIsRyan · 08/30/2012, 05:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Peace&Love

Damn, are you the guys that lynch people because you're angry? Ben simply tried to help the group. An eye for an eye...

No, Ben was being a selfish fuck. The bandits said they had his friend so he stole from the group in stead of letting the group know and handling it. His idiocy got 3 people killed indirectly and led to Lily leaving/being left behind. There is a target on his back in my eyes.

mkane24 · 08/30/2012, 05:59 pm

I will be really disappointed if TT doesn't include a point to which i can decide ben's fate. Personally, when I found out it was really Ben stashing the supplies I wanted him out right then and there. Lilly's point of stealing supplies is like sneaking into your room and slitting your throat is dead on. Because Ben didn't man up, Carley lost her life.

Luckycharm · 08/30/2012, 06:01 pm

I think he'll probably die while saving someone else's life. That would be "about square" to quote the Bride from Kill Bill.

HeyMyNameIsRyan · 08/30/2012, 06:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Luckycharm

I think he'll probably die while saving someone else's life. That would be "about square" to quote the Bride from Kill Bill.

This would be the only way I would regain any respect for Ben.

darham175 · 08/30/2012, 06:10 pm

I want Ben to die and I would do it myself but that goes against everything I've been teaching Clem. I will NOT hestitate to murder the person on the walkie if they harm her in ANY though.

magodesky · 08/30/2012, 07:14 pm

I honestly can't understand why so many people are mad at Ben for Carley/Doug's death. IMO, the fault for that is 100% on Lilly. Okay, it was Ben's deal with the bandits that set things in motion leading to that point. But there's no way he could have predicted Lilly becoming so completely unhinged and murdering someone in the group for absolutely no good reason. He didn't force that psycho to pull the trigger. In fact, he was trying to talk her down.

And really, Ben's deal with the bandits was probably the only thing that kept them from attacking the motel sooner than they did. The only thing I can really fault him for is not coming to the group and telling them about it when he first made the deal. But even that's pretty understandable if you think about it from his perspective. Lilly wanted to toss him back out to the walkers from the start. Kenny was against bringing him back to the motel, and he openly insults Ben's ability to contribute. We'd already seen that Kenny's willing to kill people in the group if there's even a slight possibility that they pose a threat. Even when Lee and Carley talk about him, you can tell from the way they talk that they don't think much of him. With folks as welcoming as them, why would Ben trust them? Treat a guy like an outsider long enough, and eventually, that's how he's going to start seeing himself.

Personally, I still trust Ben more than I trust Kenny. Especially after the way that Kenny didn't even lift a finger to help Lee while he was being attacked by a pile of walkers at the beginning of Episode 3. At least with Ben, even when he screwed up, he was still genuinely trying to help.

The13thRonin · 08/30/2012, 07:17 pm

I think Ben is stupid and made a mistake but does he really deserve death for one MISTAKE? He didn't knowingly cause someones death. I mean pretty much every person in the group has done something just as bad if not worse by this stage.

I would feel less sorry for him if Lily had of shot him instead of Carley/Doug but after that incident there's been enough death and we're running out of people from the original group.

darham175 · 08/30/2012, 07:20 pm

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Originally Posted by The13thRonin

we're running out of people from the original group.

Exactly all the more reason Ben should have died instead of Carley.

StreetsAhead24 · 08/30/2012, 07:23 pm

I don't know when I look at Ben I'm just reminded of what happened to Carley, Katjaa and Duck. Though he didn't pull the trigger he was indirectly responsible for what happened.

Because of this I just can't grow to like him but i don't think he deserves to die. He's just a naive and scared kid who still has not adjusted to his circumstances. Also you'd be doing Carley and Doug a huge disservice by murdering him, since they both stood up for him.

If Lee has the option to save him from something i'll take it, but after that he's on his own. If i have the option I'm just going to just let Lee travel with Clem.

The13thRonin · 08/30/2012, 07:24 pm

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Originally Posted by darham175

Exactly all the more reason Ben should have died instead of Carley.

I consider Ben as being from the original group now. Once you've been with the group for almost 2 whole episodes you're pretty much family.

08/30/2012, 08:16 am	#24
ozzmann Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 220	BENadict Arnold I NEVER liked Ben, from the git-go he seemed like a chump, Lee should have thrown the little traitorous bitch off the train!

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Peace&Love Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 69	Damn, are you the guys that lynch people because you're angry? Ben simply tried to help the group. An eye for an eye...

08/30/2012, 05:53 pm	#28
Strayth Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 564	Lilly was immortal due to her comics appearance. I want THE OPTIONS to make Ben suffer. And then I want to kill him myself.

08/30/2012, 05:55 pm	#29
HeyMyNameIsRyan Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 10	I wanted to kick him off the train King Leonidas style. Telltale, why was this not an option?

08/30/2012, 05:56 pm	#30
Master of Aeons Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,684	THIS - IS - HACKNEYED!!!i!!!

08/30/2012, 05:59 pm	#32
mkane24 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 252	I will be really disappointed if TT doesn't include a point to which i can decide ben's fate. Personally, when I found out it was really Ben stashing the supplies I wanted him out right then and there. Lilly's point of stealing supplies is like sneaking into your room and slitting your throat is dead on. Because Ben didn't man up, Carley lost her life.

08/30/2012, 06:01 pm	#33
Luckycharm Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 21	I think he'll probably die while saving someone else's life. That would be "about square" to quote the Bride from Kill Bill.

08/30/2012, 06:10 pm	#35
darham175 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 69	I want Ben to die and I would do it myself but that goes against everything I've been teaching Clem. I will NOT hestitate to murder the person on the walkie if they harm her in ANY though.

08/30/2012, 07:14 pm	#36
magodesky Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 95	I honestly can't understand why so many people are mad at Ben for Carley/Doug's death. IMO, the fault for that is 100% on Lilly. Okay, it was Ben's deal with the bandits that set things in motion leading to that point. But there's no way he could have predicted Lilly becoming so completely unhinged and murdering someone in the group for absolutely no good reason. He didn't force that psycho to pull the trigger. In fact, he was trying to talk her down. And really, Ben's deal with the bandits was probably the only thing that kept them from attacking the motel sooner than they did. The only thing I can really fault him for is not coming to the group and telling them about it when he first made the deal. But even that's pretty understandable if you think about it from his perspective. Lilly wanted to toss him back out to the walkers from the start. Kenny was against bringing him back to the motel, and he openly insults Ben's ability to contribute. We'd already seen that Kenny's willing to kill people in the group if there's even a slight possibility that they pose a threat. Even when Lee and Carley talk about him, you can tell from the way they talk that they don't think much of him. With folks as welcoming as them, why would Ben trust them? Treat a guy like an outsider long enough, and eventually, that's how he's going to start seeing himself. Personally, I still trust Ben more than I trust Kenny. Especially after the way that Kenny didn't even lift a finger to help Lee while he was being attacked by a pile of walkers at the beginning of Episode 3. At least with Ben, even when he screwed up, he was still genuinely trying to help.

08/30/2012, 07:17 pm	#37
The13thRonin Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 46	I think Ben is stupid and made a mistake but does he really deserve death for one MISTAKE? He didn't knowingly cause someones death. I mean pretty much every person in the group has done something just as bad if not worse by this stage. I would feel less sorry for him if Lily had of shot him instead of Carley/Doug but after that incident there's been enough death and we're running out of people from the original group.

08/30/2012, 07:23 pm	#39
StreetsAhead24 Salt lick of justice Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 99	I don't know when I look at Ben I'm just reminded of what happened to Carley, Katjaa and Duck. Though he didn't pull the trigger he was indirectly responsible for what happened. Because of this I just can't grow to like him but i don't think he deserves to die. He's just a naive and scared kid who still has not adjusted to his circumstances. Also you'd be doing Carley and Doug a huge disservice by murdering him, since they both stood up for him. If Lee has the option to save him from something i'll take it, but after that he's on his own. If i have the option I'm just going to just let Lee travel with Clem.