[SPOILERS]Ben's character and deeds

[darham175]

Family doesn't sell out family. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the guy who thinks bandits are honest and trustworthy people who arent lying about his friend. Ben vs. Duck "my dad said I'm dumber than a bag of hammers" whatever his last name is, I say Duck is smarter.

[SonnyN18]

Originally Posted by The13thRonin

I consider Ben as being from the original group now. Once you've been with the group for almost 2 whole episodes you're pretty much family.

Well like family I'll teach his ass a lesson. We've got to stick together Ben, but if you fuck up like you did with the bandits, I will not hesitate the things I will do with you.

[Cyreen]

Don't you think this thread is a bit Duck/Shaun all over again?

[Xarne]

Oh I see, Ben is the new Kenny? Hold on let me grab my pitchfork and join the mob.

[Xarne]

Originally Posted by The13thRonin

I consider Ben as being from the original group now. Once you've been with the group for almost 2 whole episodes you're pretty much family.

really? I consider him the dead-weight guy. Not a kid that needs protecting but not an adult that can hold his own, and after ep 3 being alive is his last remaining good quality

[Shane.Granger]

I'll let of him live, I treated him pretty well off the start, even gave him some food. Hes stupid and a coward, but I don't think hes a risk. If he didn't make a deal they probably would have attacked a lot sooner really. Lying was the thing that bugged me, but like I said, coward.

[SaveCarley]

Originally Posted by j.em26

..save carley.

Yea?

[Eric Northman]

Originally Posted by SouthWardRB

Either you saved Carley or Doug. These great characters shall be avenged. Yeah, Lilly killed them, BUT Ben was giving the extra stuff to the bandits, wich caused the whole thing.

These were great characters, ones who shouldn't be forgotten. Ben, a stupid little teenager who is more scared of everything then a 12 year old.

Please, by joining this thread, you 100% guarantee that you WILL kill Ben, at the first time you get.

Yeah, I'd like to shove Ben off of the train and into a crowd of walkers.

[EduardoSC]

Ben's is not family he is a two timing backstabbing pussy, I wish he dies a realy slow and painfull death being eaten by walkers, while he streams at the top of his lungs with his godnam anowing Squeaky Voice begging for Lee's help, and I also hope he burns slowly in hell. Carley was as important to me as it was clementine. And I allways thought like Lily (Because of her character in the comic book and possibly in the TV Series) she was sort off imortalized, bescause when you have to choose to save Carley or Doug, you're killing a character so that the other one can die 2 episodes later? Nice work Bob Kirkman and his acomplices, I mean I love your work and drama is always a wealcome factor, but drama is killing Katjia and Duck, stupidity is killing to much people I mean the whole group died in episode 3, and thats not the Drama that puts like "Realy good, exelent if this was a movie it deserved an Oscar, exelent 10/10", this is simply S-T-U-P-I-D-I-T-Y, pure and serene stupidity, I'm not just upset it's just that Carley/Doug's death makes no sense at all, like I said why create part in a video game where you "kill" a character to save another one and then that character you saved dies, NO F***ING SENSE, I love this video game but I don't know this was just disapointing I mean the episode could have been like Lilly points the gun at Carley, Lee sees it and pushes her arm shooting Carley/Doug, but not fatal but still like in the Braqueal artery or something then you choose if you want to leave her behind or not, Katjia treats her/him while ducks seats in the front seat while Lee looks out for him, then the Drama that acctualy fit in the episode Kenny's family death, and then while in the train Carley/Doug Starts to recover but out of guilt Ben tells Lee the truth anyway. I mean if this was what happened would have been a much better episode!

[Benasaz]

My name is Ben, but fuck that Ben! I want him dead and Carley back...!

[darham175]

Thing is though. As much as we ALL want Carley back and as much as she didn't deserve to be murdered bringing her back would dilute the emotional impact that this game (and the comic as well) are known for.

[HelloCthulhu]

Originally Posted by EduardoSC

Ben's is not family he is a two timing backstabbing pussy, I wish he dies a realy slow and painfull death being eaten by walkers, while he streams at the top of his lungs with his godnam anowing Squeaky Voice begging for Lee's help, and I also hope he burns slowly in hell. Carley was as important to me as it was clementine. And I allways thought like Lily (Because of her character in the comic book and possibly in the TV Series) she was sort off imortalized, bescause when you have to choose to save Carley or Doug, you're killing a character so that the other one can die 2 episodes later? Nice work Bob Kirkman and his acomplices, I mean I love your work and drama is always a wealcome factor, but drama is killing Katjia and Duck, stupidity is killing to much people I mean the whole group died in episode 3, and thats not the Drama that puts like "Realy good, exelent if this was a movie it deserved an Oscar, exelent 10/10", this is simply S-T-U-P-I-D-I-T-Y, pure and serene stupidity, I'm not just upset it's just that Carley/Doug's death makes no sense at all, like I said why create part in a video game where you "kill" a character to save another one and then that character you saved dies, NO F***ING SENSE, I love this video game but I don't know this was just disapointing I mean the episode could have been like Lilly points the gun at Carley, Lee sees it and pushes her arm shooting Carley/Doug, but not fatal but still like in the Braqueal artery or something then you choose if you want to leave her behind or not, Katjia treats her/him while ducks seats in the front seat while Lee looks out for him, then the Drama that acctualy fit in the episode Kenny's family death, and then while in the train Carley/Doug Starts to recover but out of guilt Ben tells Lee the truth anyway. I mean if this was what happened would have been a much better episode!

Because it's The Walking Dead. Enough said.

[Galdis]

If Ben hadn't given the bandits supplies they would have attacked and/or demanded tribute anyway.

You can actually talk down the bandits but Lilly shoots the leader, starting the attack.

It's Lilly's fault, not Ben's.

[EduardoSC]

They can still have that, the Part where Duck and Katjiia die is The Walking Dead material but why kill a character that you saved by "killing" other character two episodes before. It's sad but doesn't make any sense why not kill Glenn in the TV Show just like that, hmm Season 3 primeire Glenn gets shot in the mouth for no reason... sad, but why, now that Glenn is becoming such a distinct character the writers can't kill him unless they go through a few processes, that is not he walking dead matirial

[helno]

But he lied to all group, and because of him Lilly killed Carley.So if I have chance I WILL kill that bastard

[Galdis]

Originally Posted by helno

But he lied to all group, and because of him Lilly killed Carley.So if I have chance I WILL kill that bastard

That's ridiculous. Lilly was absolutely paranoid. When the supplies started going missing it was so insignificant that Lilly was the only one who noticed. When you bring up the missing supplies to everyone, they are far more concerned with Lilly's growing mental instability than they are about missing supplies.

Nothing excuses killing someone with absolutely no evidence like Lilly did.

Furthermore, person A is not responsible for person B's actions. Person A and person B both have free will to act rationally on their own volition.

[EduardoSC]

Look, I know it is the walking dead, the walking dead is supposed to be sad but it also makes sense, all pieces fit, Mark died because he was injured and the St. Johns were canibals, its said and makes sense, Larry died in a meat locker with a heart attackand salt lick in his head, because kenny thought he was a threat, he was an asshole, but its still sad and makes sense, Duck died because he was bitten out of nowhere it was acctualy a pretty good idea, dramatic, Treu The Walking Dead Drama, 100% good material, and it was a zombie that did it soit even backs it up even more, Katjiia killed her self out of the blue it was a surprise and it was also moving and a strong moment, it was piece of drama worthy of an award nobody was expencting to things to happen so fast, she couldn't take it anymore so she did it. now like I said a character like Carley/Doug being executed just because bitch Lily couldn't stay calm, that was stupid, believe it or not I think my idea is better, I didn't think almost any death in the walking dead series and show was fair, but they said off course but they were also in the right place. Carley's death was devastating she and Lee were starting to have feeling for each other, and then somebody just ends it with a bullet to the face,WTF is that you don't kill something so beautifull like that, maybe if it wwas a zombie, but Lily, it's frustrating and nobody was happy with it how are people going to buy something if they're mad with it, its not just a matter of being sad or unfair but if people are mad at this because its tottaly unfair manny of them, well not me because I'm a huge fan of The Walking Dead, are gonna stop playing the game, they just didn't had to kill Doug/Carley and it would have been a perfect episode, that was not a The Walking Dead thing

[EduardoSC]

Originally Posted by HelloCthulhu

Because it's The Walking Dead. Enough said.

Look, I know it is the walking dead, the walking dead is supposed to be sad but it also makes sense, all pieces fit, Mark died because he was injured and the St. Johns were canibals, its said and makes sense, Larry died in a meat locker with a heart attackand salt lick in his head, because kenny thought he was a threat, he was an asshole, but its still sad and makes sense, Duck died because he was bitten out of nowhere it was acctualy a pretty good idea, dramatic, Treu The Walking Dead Drama, 100% good material, and it was a zombie that did it soit even backs it up even more, Katjiia killed her self out of the blue it was a surprise and it was also moving and a strong moment, it was piece of drama worthy of an award nobody was expencting to things to happen so fast, she couldn't take it anymore so she did it. now like I said a character like Carley/Doug being executed just because bitch Lily couldn't stay calm, that was stupid, believe it or not I think my idea is better, I didn't think almost any death in the walking dead series and show was fair, but they said off course but they were also in the right place. Carley's death was devastating she and Lee were starting to have feeling for each other, and then somebody just ends it with a bullet to the face,WTF is that you don't kill something so beautifull like that, maybe if it wwas a zombie, but Lily, it's frustrating and nobody was happy with it how are people going to buy something if they're mad with it, its not just a matter of being sad or unfair but if people are mad at this because its tottaly unfair manny of them, well not me because I'm a huge fan of The Walking Dead, are gonna stop playing the game, they just didn't had to kill Doug/Carley and it would have been a perfect episode, that was not a The Walking Dead thing

[Galdis]

Eduard... paranoia leads to deaths. It's part of the world they are now living in. I was very upset when Carley died but I don't think it was out of character or out of the blue. The entire point of writing her death in such a way was to deliver a desired effect and the explosion of the forums about the subject proves that Vanaman and Rodkin succeeded.

[Peace&Love]

You are the biggest bunch of whiners I have ever seen O.O
And I've been on many forums.