[SPOILERS]Ben's character and deeds

[Death689God]

Originally Posted by Jessabeth

You know, every time I feel like I want to kill a character off, by the time their tickets do come up, I feel really bad for them. xD

Larry- Hated the guy throughout episode one. Still didn't care too much for him by episode two, but when it came to an attempt in saving his life or simply killing him, I can't help but try to save him. And when his mouth began to move, and suddenly a salt lick drops down, I was surprised at how much I didn't want him to die.

Duck- Annoying as hell through the first two episodes, but this episode they made him kind of cute. His whole Dick Grayson/ Robin spiel was adorable, not to mention that if you high five him, Duck totally thinks you are awesome. xD

I felt the same for Larry, but I still smiled when Duck got the Chomp. One thing in ep 3 that made it worth it.

[magodesky]

Originally Posted by EduardoSC

Carley's death was devastating she and Lee were starting to have feeling for each other, and then somebody just ends it with a bullet to the face,WTF is that you don't kill something so beautifull like that

Exactly. Carley's death makes you actually feel something. That's what great storytelling is all about. Seeing her die now is made all the more painful by the fact that Carley and Lee were starting to become so close. So you have this little glimmer of hope in the midst of the zombie apocalypse and then BAM! It's gone because of people resorting to their darker instincts. The timing here was really perfect, I think. I doubt Carley's death would have had quite as much emotional weight had it happened at any other time.

Also, punctuation is your friend.

[Cyreen]

Originally Posted by Cyreen

Don't you think this thread is a bit Duck/Shaun all over again?

Originally Posted by Xarne

Oh I see, Ben is the new Kenny? Hold on let me grab my pitchfork and join the mob.

Uh, no... Ben would be the equivalent of Duck in this scenario.

[EduardoSC]

Originally Posted by magodesky

Exactly. Carley's death makes you actually feel something. That's what great storytelling is all about. Seeing her die now is made all the more painful by the fact that Carley and Lee were starting to become so close. So you have this little glimmer of hope in the midst of the zombie apocalypse and then BAM! It's gone because of people resorting to their darker instincts. The timing here was really perfect, I think. I doubt Carley's death would have had quite as much emotional weight had it happened at any other time.

Also, punctuation is your friend.

well at least I hope they don't take Clem away from Lee, and I'm also curious about whoose this shady character at the walkie, he sounds like some sort of sick pedophile to me, his voice, he has a creepy pedophile voice, bloody hope he isn't. But from now on whatevers happens to the other characters but clemdoesn't surprise me, after what Carley, I don't think anyone's safe. And I guess I'm just sad that she died, I had this crazy thought that she and Lee could realy have something and then clem maybe would look up to carley as a mother just like she looks at Lee like a father. May Carley's soul rest peace, and I just hope that at leat Lee, Clem and perhaps Kenny get through the 1st season fine. And when they launch the second season I hope I "find another carley".

[Rasher]

Ben should have trusted the group and had no right to make a deal with the bandits on the group's behalf on his own. On the other hand, he was the new guy and all the infighting did nothing to help build trust. I really can't hate him.

Ben did confess and I don't think he ever meant to hurt anybody. The only thing that irkes me is that Ben did not confess when he saw how much stress this was causing. He could have said it was him when poor Carley was being accused, but no.

[Galdis]

Ben didn't tell anyone because everyone in the group, save Carley (and Lee, depending on how you play) treats him like crap or ignores him altogether.

[bazenji]

Ben's a 16, maybe 17 year old high school kid and an army of bandits who had been attacking our hotel stopped and decided to trade for an amount of supplies that none of us had even noticed were missing except Lilly. No one in their right mind wanted to fight the bandits except Lilly, by the way. The rest of us all wanted to leave.

And the bandits didn't say they only had one friend. Ben said they were holding his "friends" captive. All of them.

So, no, I don't blame Ben much.

In fact I was desperately hoping I wouldn't be forced to kick him off the train. I also kept starting new dialogue to tell him to shut up about it. And, nice touch TTG, each of the four following times I talked to him we had a different variation on the "Shut the hell up, Ben" exchange until he stopped talking to me.

Lilly, on the other hand, was a loose cannon. I actually managed to renegotiate with the bandits, which was hilarious, up until the guy I was talking to took a bullet in the head. At that point I realized Lilly was gun crazy.

[Masta23]

Originally Posted by darham175

I want Ben to die and I would do it myself but that goes against everything I've been teaching Clem. I will NOT hestitate to murder the person on the walkie if they harm her in ANY though.

I agree with this. My Lee would see it as morally wrong, even though I can't forgive him for getting Carly killed.
If he had confessed earlier, it could have been avoided.

[Ninja Gaijin]

The fact you couldn't choose between Ben + Carly/Doug was pissweak as.

I was trying to find a way to get Ben to die or to beat up Lilly before she could do any harm.

Getting more annoyed now as the episodes progress and the obvious lack of repercussions for your choices becomes more apparent. Knew it was a gimmick from the start but I really hoped that by episode 4 or 5, you would see places/stories/characters specific for each plot path/line. So that you had to go back to episode 2 or 3 to see what episode 4 & 5 could become in different paths. At the moment, each episode is just a choice a) // choice b) affair. Which in the end makes little to no difference apart from a stat sheet of how many other idiots chose the same paths as you.

[United 23]

I can see Ben doing what the inexperienced scared character does in most zombie/horror films. A bunch of zombies are chasing him and he trips on something and they all pile on top of him. I would so love that to happen.

[MisterMisfit]

I was always very nice to him and am so disappointed to see him not admit the truth when Lily was blaming Carley for everything. Now I want to see him die.

[HanoverFist]

Ben cost the group four members, 3 deaths, our current home and remaining supplies. All while putting every single members life in immediate danger. Everything bad that happened in this episode is a consequence of Bens actions.

Mad at him? Yeah I'm mad alright. Lily was right, she didn't go about it the right way or the right time, but a traitor to the group is the same as outright murderer and needed to be addressed asap.

Unfortunately when he admits to it later , there was not a "Kick this POS off the train " selection. Countries execute traitors for a reason. Ben may as well had slit their throats himself and set fire to the hotel. He is worm food the first chance that arises.

[Sergiy]

I have a feeling he will "Redeem" himself in EP4 and people will claim he's the best pal ever.

Kind of what happened to Kenny.

[Obrusnine]

I felt like strangling Ben to death before throwing him off of the train when he told me, seriously, how stupid could you be?

[Ninja Gaijin]

Should be an option to use Ben for food.

[Mafon2]

«He's young and stupid», cut him some slack.

[ommmnomnomnom]

Originally Posted by CapnJay

Ben and Lily actually did some of us a favor. Those who were thinking with the other big head might think they could get some action with Lily or Carley while still protecting Clementine were dividing their efforts. Now we can focus one hundred percent on Clem. Also if Ben had let us in on the plan we could have laid a trap for the bandits.

Clems gonna betray you...shell leave you or zombify by episode 5

[WD40]

When Carley got shot in the face, I was very angry at Lily, and she was left behind without even a first thought, or remorse. I had a gut feeling that it was Ben that did it, but I didn't have proof, so I let it slide for that time.

When Ben told me, I told him to shut up about it and not tell everyone else. This way he can feel betrayed by the only person he thought he could trust with this knowledge if I'm given an option to save or not save him.

Would I kill him on purpose? No. Is he a priority for me to save now? Definitely not anymore. To paraphrase what Kenny said in Ep.3, if there isn't enough room on the boat, he ain't coming with.

[Luckycharm]

Originally Posted by ommmnomnomnom

Clems gonna betray you...shell leave you or zombify by episode 5

That would actually be very Walking "Deadish" lol. I think Lee and Clem's relationship might indeed get more complicated in the coming episode as Clem wants to find or at least, know what happend to her parents no matter what (she is a child...) and Lee's looking out for their safety. Disagreements might turn up and cause some chaos !

[NeonBlade]

Has anyone tried going to the grate where the bag is, but instead of taking it. Reporting it to Lily? Is there even a dialogue choice that allows this?