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KCohere · 08/31/2012, 05:21 am

Everyone is so upset about Carley, Which I get, I liked her too , that I feel like Kat and Duck's deaths were a bit overshadowed. I know how much people hated Duck, eventhough I didnt. I was wondering how everyone felt about what happened to them.

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Sir Craigius · 08/31/2012, 05:33 am

He was a bit annoying at times, but I never wanted this to happen to him. It was so sad to see the life slowly draining out of him, knowing there was nothing we could do to stop him turning. I was constantly worried he was going to turn in Katjaas arms and tear into her before anyone could react. But then she took herself out of the picture anyway.

LokiHavok · 08/31/2012, 05:35 am

Yeah I knew his fate was sealed in the RV when the bit was revealed. I just had no idea Katjaa would off herself. It was all so shocking. But it made sense.

As for duck. I shot him myself. I actually waited until he physically died/stopped breathing. SO I didn't make Lee a child murderer. Or at least that's what appeared to happen.

All of the event that happened in this episode were pretty overwealming. Ultimately I really felt bad for Kenny. He didn't deserve that. Altho I wasn't personally attached to his family. Not like Carley.

Sir Craigius · 08/31/2012, 05:48 am

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Originally Posted by LokiHavok

As for duck. I shot him myself. I actually waited until he physically died/stopped breathing. SO I didn't make Lee a child murderer. Or at least that's what appeared to happen.

I did the same. He definetely seems to stop breathing if you leave it for a minute. I kept holding fire, waiting to see if he was going to "come alive" as a walker, but it never seems to happen.

RoboSheriff · 08/31/2012, 05:54 am

i only expected ducks death, not katjaa's and yea i felt kinda bad for duck to the point i wished that i would've been able to save him

YamiRaziel · 08/31/2012, 06:00 am

He grew on me. I mean, he let me be Batman while he was Robin... how cool is that. Even high-fived him

I was absolutely sure Katjaa was gone for sure. Thought she would just decide to stay behind with him though instead of killing herself. Both make perfect sense though.

Shot Duck myself. I mean it should be Batman who finishes Robin

Plus Duck seemed to think I was cooler than his dad, even though I went for Shawn in Hershel's farm. If Kenny shot Duck, not only it would be really hard for him, but he could actually toughen up. I want him to know that from now on it's my call or he can leave the group for good. I don't want him treating me like he treated Lily. He ruins groups and if Telltale allows me I'm gonna see that he isn't with me at the end of episode 5

LokiHavok · 08/31/2012, 06:04 am

Yeah I totally made Kenny my bitch in the fight in the cab. Lee's gunna def be more dominant in the final episodes. At least how I'm gunna play him.

It works out in my favour. Cause now he is a broken man with teh death of his family.A nd can easily be controlled. That's why I didn't give Duck the crackers and the water. I wanted this to happen. SO Kenny could be my loyal and depressed goon.

Drake Sigar · 08/31/2012, 06:08 am

I started to like Duck, and even though I was getting less and less fond of Kenny, nobody deserved this. If there were three groups in episode 2 headed by Lilly, Kenny, and Lee, all of them have been obliterated. Lilly's alone, Kenny's alone, Lee has nobody left to trust except Clem (who we're now beginning to question). This entire episode was hugely depressing.

I offered to shoot Duck because making his own dad do it just seemed sick. I then waited for a few minutes to see if he'd turn, incase there was even a iota of hope that his body might beat the infection. When it came to Kat, it took my brain a little while to registered what had happened, at which point I mentally fell onto my knees, looked up at the sky, and shouted curses at the heavens. It wasn't any one death that broke me, it was the relentlessness of all three.

KCohere · 08/31/2012, 06:17 am

Interesting. I guess Im the only one who told Kenny to shoot Duck? I offered to before they went into the woods but I got turned down so I figured Kenny as his father should be the one to do it. Better him than a near stranger (eventhough Duck thought I was awesome, lol). He took it like a champ and did want needed to be done. That was the walkthrough where I tried to fight Kenny because I was still mad at him but he kicked the crap out of me anyway, lol.

My second playthrough, knowing he was going to lose his family I just decided to be compassionate and supportive but the next time I play, I owe him a butt whipping.

Sir Craigius · 08/31/2012, 06:20 am

How do you avoid the fight with Kenny? I tried to talk him down, but I think I must have said the wrong thing and he flipped out.

KCohere · 08/31/2012, 06:24 am

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Originally Posted by Sir Craigius

How do you avoid the fight with Kenny? I tried to talk him down, but I think I must have said the wrong thing and he flipped out.

I just said, "I just want to talk" or something and he calmed down. And then I said, "You have a wife and son who need you." and that made him stop the train.

Oh, I also said that he blamed himself for Duck getting bitten. I think that might have taken the air out of him.

Marleysativa · 08/31/2012, 06:28 am

I had thought he was somewhat annoying for the first two episodes. He (Duck) grew on me really fast this episode. The mental image of pointing a gun at an eight year old child as he takes is last breathes is one that will stick with me for a long time.

I'm not really sure how they can top this episode. It was pretty much non-stop shock. Losing Lilly, Carley, Katja, and Duck triggered a barrage of "what the fuck!'s from me. Games never have an effect on me like that.

LokiHavok · 08/31/2012, 06:49 am

Yeah those series of events were so intense. That's when I knew that this was the craziest episode yet. Seemed longer too. Did anybody else get that?

Yeah that moment, I went from WTF Carley now. How could this get worse. To the death of Ken's family and my already small group (after Ep. 2) becoming a shell of it's former self. Was so nuts.

Master of Aeons · 08/31/2012, 11:08 am

Before release a dev said in the "long episode" thread that Episode 3 wouldn't be longer, but there'd be more to do, so it could feel longer if you took your time.

Rock114 · 08/31/2012, 11:17 am

I liked Duck after he helped me solve the Mystery of the Vanishing Meds at the motor inn. He was real helpful, the little scamp. I shot him myself because Kenny had already seen Katjaa commit suicide right in front of him and it seemed to cruel to make him do it. Shooting Duck is one of the hardest things I've done so far. I could barely see him through my tears. And when Kenny wants to find a less violent, and more painless way to finish Duck... God.

I am so jaded by this game now that I really can't see Lee surviving Episode 5. In this one Episode alone, three group members died, one left/was abandoned, and another was revealed to have been going behind our backs practically since we met him.

bazenji · 08/31/2012, 12:55 pm

Duck suffered from the horrors of the zombie apocalypse more than anyone, but he stayed pretty strong psychologically. Moreso than Clem I would say, who goes to dark places sometimes.

Clem: "I get it. Sometimes you just gotta kill some people..."

Lee: "Whoa, wait, that's NOT what I meant, Clem! What the hell!"

Duck was always happy, which was bizarre. And then he did that whole Batman and Robin thing and, I have to say, I went ahead and high-fived him for that one. TTG made me a Duck believer -- and then they killed him because screw me and my emotions, that's why.

But as I said before, Kaatja's death was more affecting than Carley's. I sort of saw Carley's death coming, but I honestly thought Kaatja was stronger than that. Clem is my partner, Kenny's my rival, Carley's my buddy, but Kaatja was my moral compass.

United 23 · 08/31/2012, 01:01 pm

I did feel more affected by Carley's death than Katjaa and Duck's. I guess that is because I had built up a strong relationship with Carley . Also I think Carley's death was a lot more shocking and unexpected. It was relatively early into the episode and just how quick it was, when on the other hand, we knew Duck was bit and he was slowly dying. Katjaa's death was quite easy to predict after she continually talked about how everything was changing and how it would never be the way it used to be.

Murasaki · 08/31/2012, 01:05 pm

The difference between Carley and Kat/Duck is that there seems to be far more potential character development and interaction with Carley. Whilst Kat/Duck is more tragic, Carley I think has the biggest impact because of what could have been with her has now been lost.

Omegabegin · 08/31/2012, 01:09 pm

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Originally Posted by bazenji

But as I said before, Kaatja's death was more affecting than Carley's. I sort of saw Carley's death coming, but I honestly thought Kaatja was stronger than that. Clem is my partner, Kenny's my rival, Carley's my buddy, but Kaatja was my moral compass.

This is really how I felt. Kat always seemed like the voice of reason, the person I could rely on to keep a straight head and to help stabilize our group. I was honestly amazed that she could kill herself in front of her dying son and leave Kenny to face his entire family's death all alone. I never expected that from her.

I guess it just goes to show how even the strongest of us have a breaking point.

United 23 · 08/31/2012, 01:14 pm

I find it quite easy to understand Katjaa shooting herself. She always talked about how the world was changing for the worse and now she knew she was going to lose her only child.

Plus I don't think Duck saw anything. I think his eyes were closed and with him so close to death, he isn't going to be seeing clearly anyway.

08/31/2012, 05:21 am	#1
KCohere Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 219	Katjaa and Duck (spoilers) Everyone is so upset about Carley, Which I get, I liked her too , that I feel like Kat and Duck's deaths were a bit overshadowed. I know how much people hated Duck, eventhough I didnt. I was wondering how everyone felt about what happened to them. Mods, if this is a repeat post feel free to remove or merge it.

08/31/2012, 06:08 am	#8
Drake Sigar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 158	I started to like Duck, and even though I was getting less and less fond of Kenny, nobody deserved this. If there were three groups in episode 2 headed by Lilly, Kenny, and Lee, all of them have been obliterated. Lilly's alone, Kenny's alone, Lee has nobody left to trust except Clem (who we're now beginning to question). This entire episode was hugely depressing. I offered to shoot Duck because making his own dad do it just seemed sick. I then waited for a few minutes to see if he'd turn, incase there was even a iota of hope that his body might beat the infection. When it came to Kat, it took my brain a little while to registered what had happened, at which point I mentally fell onto my knees, looked up at the sky, and shouted curses at the heavens. It wasn't any one death that broke me, it was the relentlessness of all three. __________________ Check out http://drakesdoomsdaycorner.blogspot.com/ for my opinion on movies and games!

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08/31/2012, 05:33 am	#2
Sir Craigius Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 232	He was a bit annoying at times, but I never wanted this to happen to him. It was so sad to see the life slowly draining out of him, knowing there was nothing we could do to stop him turning. I was constantly worried he was going to turn in Katjaas arms and tear into her before anyone could react. But then she took herself out of the picture anyway.

08/31/2012, 05:35 am	#3
LokiHavok Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 231	Yeah I knew his fate was sealed in the RV when the bit was revealed. I just had no idea Katjaa would off herself. It was all so shocking. But it made sense. As for duck. I shot him myself. I actually waited until he physically died/stopped breathing. SO I didn't make Lee a child murderer. Or at least that's what appeared to happen. All of the event that happened in this episode were pretty overwealming. Ultimately I really felt bad for Kenny. He didn't deserve that. Altho I wasn't personally attached to his family. Not like Carley.

08/31/2012, 05:54 am	#5
RoboSheriff Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 248	i only expected ducks death, not katjaa's and yea i felt kinda bad for duck to the point i wished that i would've been able to save him

08/31/2012, 06:00 am	#6
YamiRaziel Lilly Fan #1 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Woodbury Posts: 774	He grew on me. I mean, he let me be Batman while he was Robin... how cool is that. Even high-fived him I was absolutely sure Katjaa was gone for sure. Thought she would just decide to stay behind with him though instead of killing herself. Both make perfect sense though. Shot Duck myself. I mean it should be Batman who finishes Robin Plus Duck seemed to think I was cooler than his dad, even though I went for Shawn in Hershel's farm. If Kenny shot Duck, not only it would be really hard for him, but he could actually toughen up. I want him to know that from now on it's my call or he can leave the group for good. I don't want him treating me like he treated Lily. He ruins groups and if Telltale allows me I'm gonna see that he isn't with me at the end of episode 5

08/31/2012, 06:04 am	#7
LokiHavok Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 231	Yeah I totally made Kenny my bitch in the fight in the cab. Lee's gunna def be more dominant in the final episodes. At least how I'm gunna play him. It works out in my favour. Cause now he is a broken man with teh death of his family.A nd can easily be controlled. That's why I didn't give Duck the crackers and the water. I wanted this to happen. SO Kenny could be my loyal and depressed goon.

08/31/2012, 06:17 am	#9
KCohere Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 219	Interesting. I guess Im the only one who told Kenny to shoot Duck? I offered to before they went into the woods but I got turned down so I figured Kenny as his father should be the one to do it. Better him than a near stranger (eventhough Duck thought I was awesome, lol). He took it like a champ and did want needed to be done. That was the walkthrough where I tried to fight Kenny because I was still mad at him but he kicked the crap out of me anyway, lol. My second playthrough, knowing he was going to lose his family I just decided to be compassionate and supportive but the next time I play, I owe him a butt whipping.

08/31/2012, 06:20 am	#10
Sir Craigius Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 232	How do you avoid the fight with Kenny? I tried to talk him down, but I think I must have said the wrong thing and he flipped out.

08/31/2012, 06:28 am	#12
Marleysativa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 201	I had thought he was somewhat annoying for the first two episodes. He (Duck) grew on me really fast this episode. The mental image of pointing a gun at an eight year old child as he takes is last breathes is one that will stick with me for a long time. I'm not really sure how they can top this episode. It was pretty much non-stop shock. Losing Lilly, Carley, Katja, and Duck triggered a barrage of "what the fuck!'s from me. Games never have an effect on me like that.

08/31/2012, 06:49 am	#13
LokiHavok Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 231	Yeah those series of events were so intense. That's when I knew that this was the craziest episode yet. Seemed longer too. Did anybody else get that? Yeah that moment, I went from WTF Carley now. How could this get worse. To the death of Ken's family and my already small group (after Ep. 2) becoming a shell of it's former self. Was so nuts.

08/31/2012, 11:08 am	#14
Master of Aeons Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,684	Before release a dev said in the "long episode" thread that Episode 3 wouldn't be longer, but there'd be more to do, so it could feel longer if you took your time.

08/31/2012, 11:17 am	#15
Rock114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: U.S. of A. Posts: 1,706	I liked Duck after he helped me solve the Mystery of the Vanishing Meds at the motor inn. He was real helpful, the little scamp. I shot him myself because Kenny had already seen Katjaa commit suicide right in front of him and it seemed to cruel to make him do it. Shooting Duck is one of the hardest things I've done so far. I could barely see him through my tears. And when Kenny wants to find a less violent, and more painless way to finish Duck... God. I am so jaded by this game now that I really can't see Lee surviving Episode 5. In this one Episode alone, three group members died, one left/was abandoned, and another was revealed to have been going behind our backs practically since we met him.

08/31/2012, 12:55 pm	#16
bazenji Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 116	Duck suffered from the horrors of the zombie apocalypse more than anyone, but he stayed pretty strong psychologically. Moreso than Clem I would say, who goes to dark places sometimes. Clem: "I get it. Sometimes you just gotta kill some people..." Lee: "Whoa, wait, that's NOT what I meant, Clem! What the hell!" Duck was always happy, which was bizarre. And then he did that whole Batman and Robin thing and, I have to say, I went ahead and high-fived him for that one. TTG made me a Duck believer -- and then they killed him because screw me and my emotions, that's why. But as I said before, Kaatja's death was more affecting than Carley's. I sort of saw Carley's death coming, but I honestly thought Kaatja was stronger than that. Clem is my partner, Kenny's my rival, Carley's my buddy, but Kaatja was my moral compass.

08/31/2012, 01:01 pm	#17
United 23 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 48	I did feel more affected by Carley's death than Katjaa and Duck's. I guess that is because I had built up a strong relationship with Carley . Also I think Carley's death was a lot more shocking and unexpected. It was relatively early into the episode and just how quick it was, when on the other hand, we knew Duck was bit and he was slowly dying. Katjaa's death was quite easy to predict after she continually talked about how everything was changing and how it would never be the way it used to be.

08/31/2012, 01:05 pm	#18
Murasaki Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 79	The difference between Carley and Kat/Duck is that there seems to be far more potential character development and interaction with Carley. Whilst Kat/Duck is more tragic, Carley I think has the biggest impact because of what could have been with her has now been lost.

08/31/2012, 01:14 pm	#20
United 23 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 48	I find it quite easy to understand Katjaa shooting herself. She always talked about how the world was changing for the worse and now she knew she was going to lose her only child. Plus I don't think Duck saw anything. I think his eyes were closed and with him so close to death, he isn't going to be seeing clearly anyway.