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Old 09/01/2012, 08:11 am   #21
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Everyone's infected. Zombie bites are gross and nasty and can cause completely unrelated infections. Human mouths are already really disgusting petri dishes of grossness, more than a lot of other mammals like dogs (no matter how often you brush your teeth, you're just that gross).

So dying causes you to rise from the dead as a zombie.

And bites cause blood infections and kill you unless you can stop the infection from spreading. But no one really has antibiotics in the apocalypse, so that's why you might as well cut off the limb.
I know. Once again, question was if someone could get saved from a zombie bite and survive without turning (or dying under a different context)/.
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Old 09/01/2012, 08:14 am   #22
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no amount of disinfectant pored onto a zombie bite will kill all the virus, there would be thousands of the virus cells just hanging out under the thousands of dead cells, its why antibiotics are important
Small amounts of bacteria can be killed by your body fighting against it. Large amounts, however, cannot.
If there's, say, a small or medium amount of bacteria on the wound, if you used peroxide on it, all of it, or most of it would be eliminated and the rest that is inside your organism would be fought off by your organism's self-defense against viruses and bacteria. It really depends on how much is in your system.
Our bodies survive because they are capable of defending themselves from viruses and bacteria. Zombie bacteria is no different, it just has much, much bigger consequences.
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Old 09/01/2012, 08:22 am   #23
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Kirkman has said the bites don't spread any Zombie infection, the "Infection" is in everyone already. So yes, you could theoretically stop a bitten person turning if you could successfully disinfect them and prevent them dying of disease, I suppose.
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Old 09/01/2012, 08:28 am   #24
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Small amounts of bacteria can be killed by your body fighting against it. Large amounts, however, cannot.
If there's, say, a small or medium amount of bacteria on the wound, if you used peroxide on it, all of it, or most of it would be eliminated and the rest that is inside your organism would be fought off by your organism's self-defense against viruses and bacteria. It really depends on how much is in your system.
Our bodies survive because they are capable of defending themselves from viruses and bacteria. Zombie bacteria is no different, it just has much, much bigger consequences.
if i bite you hard you will need antibiotics, let alone if i had been dead for a few weeks and i bite you
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Old 09/01/2012, 09:05 am   #25
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Isn't there always a tiny percentage of humans immune to a certain viral infection? Theoretically you could create an antidote from them.

Disclaimer: Most of my medical knowledge in this matter comes from disaster B-movies.
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Old 09/01/2012, 09:19 am   #26
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If one were to clean the wound with something - peroxide, antiseptic, even a good ole bottle of alcohol, it would get rid of enough germs for the body to fight it. Now, because the 'zombie virus' is already in everyone, and that the bite just causes a serious infection that happens to kill you, I think the only reason cleaning (and dressing) the wound wouldn't work would be that the fiction itself doesn't allow it, unless you amputate (which makes no sense, what if that gets infected, or you die of blood loss).
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Old 09/01/2012, 10:09 am   #27
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I know the perfect cure! A bullet to the brain.
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Old 09/01/2012, 10:13 am   #28
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You could probably cure a bite victim but you would need a doctor not a vet Duck was a gonner
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Old 09/01/2012, 10:18 am   #29
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everyone is infected and turn when they die the bites just kill.
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Old 09/01/2012, 10:30 am   #30
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If it's not a virus, they aren't "infected". Maybe "mutated" would be a better word. Maybe it's the result of sentient gases released in a solar flare or a passing comet.
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Old 09/01/2012, 12:21 pm   #31
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I keep saying this over and over. If you look the the Walking Dead Wiki under zombies, it cites a letter response where Kirkman refuses to confirm the nature of the zombie. He only says that nothing is transmitted through the bite, it just becomes an infected wound in the way that any other wound would fester and kill you in a non-sterile environment. Since everyone dead turns into a zombie, you die and reanimate.

The interesting question here is - if you controlled the situation entirely, cleaned a zombie's mouth, disinfected the wound and cleaned everything perfectly, would the bite still kill you? Dale has avoided turning because of an amputation, so it's not a supernatural event. You have to die by physical means, it's not simply triggered by the bite. My theory is yes, a perfectly controlled disinfected bite would not turn someone. But until Kirkman gives an example of a shiny toothed zombie who bites someone in a newly refurbished hospital, we won't know.
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a shiny toothed zombie who bites someone in a newly refurbished hospital, we won't know.
A zombie with dentures?
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Old 09/01/2012, 12:36 pm   #33
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I know that TWD TV show is regarded as another universe but it is still written by Kirkman. At the end of the first season there was a guy at the CDC who didn't manage to find a cure to the virus. As far as I recall his wife was bitten but he couldn't cure her, so they scanned her brain to see what happens during the transformation.

Once you're bitten it's game over. Unless you have the luck of being bitten on place that can be amputated.
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Old 09/01/2012, 12:43 pm   #34
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I know that TWD TV show is regarded as another universe but it is still written by Kirkman. At the end of the first season there was a guy at the CDC who didn't manage to find a cure to the virus. As far as I recall his wife was bitten but he couldn't cure her, so they scanned her brain to see what happens during the transformation.

Once you're bitten it's game over. Unless you have the luck of being bitten on place that can be amputated.
i think that whole CDC part was so silly it should have been a dream, the idea that hundreds of science geeks would want to leave a secure bunker to be with their family and die is just stupid, it was just the TV way of saying "no cure, the end"
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The interesting question here is - if you controlled the situation entirely, cleaned a zombie's mouth, disinfected the wound and cleaned everything perfectly, would the bite still kill you? Dale has avoided turning because of an amputation, so it's not a supernatural event. You have to die by physical means, it's not simply triggered by the bite. My theory is yes, a perfectly controlled disinfected bite would not turn someone. But until Kirkman gives an example of a shiny toothed zombie who bites someone in a newly refurbished hospital, we won't know.
I think the answer would depend on what's more convenient to the plot.
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Old 09/01/2012, 12:52 pm   #36
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A zombie with dentures?
Wooden Toothed Zombie Washington?

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I think the answer would depend on what's more convenient to the plot.
I'm pretty sure Kirkman never wants to explain the phenomena. It goes against his world to give it hard rules.
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Old 09/01/2012, 01:00 pm   #37
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Well, if the walkers aren't transmitting anything through the bite, then it seems to me that it could be cured with medicine. We've never seen that, but that might only be because we haven't had the chance yet. The closest that Duck, the only bite victim we've had time to spend with, got to medical aid was a box of animal crackers and a bottle of water.
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Well, if the walkers aren't transmitting anything through the bite, then it seems to me that it could be cured with medicine. We've never seen that, but that might only be because we haven't had the chance yet. The closest that Duck, the only bite victim we've had time to spend with, got to medical aid was a box of animal crackers and a bottle of water.
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the only cure is lump of lead in either ear..

or the eye

or the temple

or the forehead
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