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MakersWax · 08/30/2012, 07:19 pm

I get it, Ben was giving supplies to the bandits without anyone's consent. Wasn't he doing it to keep them from attacking the motel and killing the group? I must have missed something, because I thought he was doing it after Lilly accused him but didn't give a damn.

If the group needed to tithe the bandits to keep from getting raided, who cares who was doing it? What did I miss?

darham175 · 08/30/2012, 07:24 pm

Ben started giving the bandits stuff because they claimed to have his friend, then he kept doing it so they wouldn't kill him. Never once bothering to consult the group about any of it.

ELBEaston · 08/30/2012, 07:46 pm

Also when confronted with it he didn't fess up. Even after Lily kills Carley/Doug at the train.

Rock114 · 08/30/2012, 07:49 pm

He gave them supplies because they claimed to have his friend. Them not attacking the group never had anything to do with it. We took him in, and while we weren't exactly friendly, we didn't throw him to the walkers when we had the chance. He repaid us giving him shelter, food, and protection by stealing our supplies and giving them to the people who have been shooting at us for nearly a week without even bothering to mention it to us. And when we finally ran out? What then?

greenj2 · 08/30/2012, 07:49 pm

He just made a dumb mistake, typical for someone of his age, got in way over his head and tried to cover it up.

He's not a bad person. The only 'wrong' thing he did was to lie to the group about it all.

Redwizards · 08/30/2012, 07:54 pm

It's the lack of transparency in his actions.

What's the number one ingredient in any relationship? Trust.

MakersWax · 08/30/2012, 07:54 pm

So the bandits knew the group had supplies and weren't attacking because they were getting a taste. Fine by me, Ben wasn't hurting the group.

Cyreen · 08/30/2012, 07:54 pm

He's a kid. It's not much better than holding Duck responsible for Shaun.

Sisyphus · 08/30/2012, 08:02 pm

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Originally Posted by MakersWax

Ben was giving supplies to the bandits without anyone's consent.

Nailed it.

fanganga · 08/31/2012, 07:01 am

Two things - one, if he'd told the others they could have either kept up the payments until they were ready to leave, or been ready to fight if they thought keeping the payments up wasn't worth it. Two, we don't know about the bandits or Ben's deal - it's possible that they could have been thinking a full-on raid wasn't worth the risk, but after the deal they knew the motel gang had an efficient scavenging operation that they wanted a piece of, and/or they decided that they had to send a clear message that you couldn't back out of deals with them.

SlingJawFish · 09/03/2012, 05:12 pm

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Originally Posted by greenj2

He just made a dumb mistake, typical for someone of his age, got in way over his head and tried to cover it up.

He's not a bad person. The only 'wrong' thing he did was to lie to the group about it all.

He made a "dumb mistake" that killed Carley! He deserves the worst possible death anyone has ever had!!!

Note: this is satire...

Zombies are Awesome! · 09/03/2012, 05:14 pm

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Originally Posted by greenj2

He just made a dumb mistake, typical for someone of his age, got in way over his head and tried to cover it up.

He's not a bad person. The only 'wrong' thing he did was to lie to the group about it all.

Yea and his lie caused 3 peoples deaths. If he would have just told the group earlier, maybe they would have been left

Xarne · 09/03/2012, 05:19 pm

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Originally Posted by greenj2

He just made a dumb mistake, typical for someone of his age, got in way over his head and tried to cover it up.

He's not a bad person. The only 'wrong' thing he did was to lie to the group about it all.

You understand he's directly responsible for D/C's death and indirectly for Kenny's family ya? Half our group wiped out in one episode because of his 'dumb' mistake- all of it 100% avoidable.

Googolplexbyte · 09/03/2012, 05:21 pm

He's a liar and untrustworthy but I think lilly was the actual cause of the three deaths. If she hadn't been so gun ho about dealing with the bandits there'd be no shoot-out, no attracted horde, no bite. Plus Lilly went bonkers and killed someone for the accused crime of theft and lying, neither of which deserve the death penalty even if they're found guilty.

Zombies are Awesome! · 09/03/2012, 05:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Googolplexbyte

He's a liar and untrustworthy but I think lilly was the actual cause of the three deaths. If she hadn't been so gun ho about dealing with the bandits there'd be no shoot-out, no attracted horde, no bite. Plus Lilly went bonkers and killed someone for the accused crime of theft and lying, neither of which deserve the death penalty even if they're found guilty.

But it would have been avoidable if Ben would have just TOLD THEM

maybe the group might have even helped him

Googolplexbyte · 09/03/2012, 05:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Xarne

You understand he's directly responsible for D/C's death and indirectly for Kenny's family ya? Half our group wiped out in one episode because of his 'dumb' mistake- all of it 100% avoidable.

How's that his fault not lilly's. What psycho shots someone for suspected theft? Also there'd be no walkers to bite duck if Lilly hadn't attracted them with a pointless firefight.

Xarne · 09/03/2012, 05:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Zombies are Awesome!

But it would have been avoidable if Ben would have just TOLD THEM

maybe the group might have even helped him

Yep, whether right then or later on, the bandit problem wasnt going away.
Of course,there wouldnt be a bandit problem if....

Viser · 09/03/2012, 05:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Zombies are Awesome!

But it would have been avoidable if Ben would have just TOLD THEM

maybe the group might have even helped him

I seriously doubt they would have helped him. Lilly was still trying to run things and she clearly doesn't care about anyone outside the group. The least she would've done would be kick Ben out of the group, and if anyone was against it or wanted to help Ben, she'd probably snap and go around shooting people like she did outside the RV. But guess we'll never know, huh.

Zombies are Awesome! · 09/03/2012, 05:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Viser

I seriously doubt they would have helped him. Lilly was still trying to run things and she clearly doesn't care about anyone outside the group. The least she would've done would be kick Ben out of the group, and if anyone was against it or wanted to help Ben, she'd probably snap and go around shooting people like she did outside the RV. But guess we'll never know, huh.

at least they would respect his honesty.

Googolplexbyte · 09/03/2012, 05:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Zombies are Awesome!

But it would have been avoidable if Ben would have just TOLD THEM

maybe the group might have even helped him

Lilly wasn't in a very cooperative mood, she'd probably just shot him in the face, Ben was scared of her for a reason, bitch is crazy, I'd like to see you in that situation admitting a crime to a paranoia-adled women with a gun.

Plus I bet Lilly would've just started a firefight, as soon as the bandits ambushed again, which would've happened as there was a limited supply of meds.

She was losing it and Ben's retardedness was pretty irrelevant.

08/30/2012, 07:19 pm	#1
MakersWax Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 91	What exactly did Ben do wrong? I get it, Ben was giving supplies to the bandits without anyone's consent. Wasn't he doing it to keep them from attacking the motel and killing the group? I must have missed something, because I thought he was doing it after Lilly accused him but didn't give a damn. If the group needed to tithe the bandits to keep from getting raided, who cares who was doing it? What did I miss?

08/30/2012, 07:49 pm	#5
greenj2 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 95	He just made a dumb mistake, typical for someone of his age, got in way over his head and tried to cover it up. He's not a bad person. The only 'wrong' thing he did was to lie to the group about it all. __________________ » @twitter » @tumblr

08/30/2012, 07:54 pm	#8
Cyreen In base four! I'm fine! Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,339	He's a kid. It's not much better than holding Duck responsible for Shaun. __________________ Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test.

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08/30/2012, 07:24 pm	#2
darham175 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 69	Ben started giving the bandits stuff because they claimed to have his friend, then he kept doing it so they wouldn't kill him. Never once bothering to consult the group about any of it.

08/30/2012, 07:46 pm	#3
ELBEaston Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11	Also when confronted with it he didn't fess up. Even after Lily kills Carley/Doug at the train.

08/30/2012, 07:49 pm	#4
Rock114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: U.S. of A. Posts: 1,711	He gave them supplies because they claimed to have his friend. Them not attacking the group never had anything to do with it. We took him in, and while we weren't exactly friendly, we didn't throw him to the walkers when we had the chance. He repaid us giving him shelter, food, and protection by stealing our supplies and giving them to the people who have been shooting at us for nearly a week without even bothering to mention it to us. And when we finally ran out? What then?

08/30/2012, 07:54 pm	#6
Redwizards Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 70	It's the lack of transparency in his actions. What's the number one ingredient in any relationship? Trust.

08/31/2012, 07:01 am	#10
fanganga Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 56	Two things - one, if he'd told the others they could have either kept up the payments until they were ready to leave, or been ready to fight if they thought keeping the payments up wasn't worth it. Two, we don't know about the bandits or Ben's deal - it's possible that they could have been thinking a full-on raid wasn't worth the risk, but after the deal they knew the motel gang had an efficient scavenging operation that they wanted a piece of, and/or they decided that they had to send a clear message that you couldn't back out of deals with them.

09/03/2012, 05:21 pm	#14
Googolplexbyte Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 64	He's a liar and untrustworthy but I think lilly was the actual cause of the three deaths. If she hadn't been so gun ho about dealing with the bandits there'd be no shoot-out, no attracted horde, no bite. Plus Lilly went bonkers and killed someone for the accused crime of theft and lying, neither of which deserve the death penalty even if they're found guilty.