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Old 09/07/2012, 01:35 pm   #21
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What would've been cool if that situation would've been different based on her learning from your decisions/actions.
I think she is learning because for most of the major choices she is their watching you make that choice and I think it will influence her and become something major for her in ether E4 or E5.
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Old 09/07/2012, 02:11 pm   #22
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How about you wouldn't have survived the first 20 minutes of the game if she hadn't saved your ass from the babysitter?
I was totally gonna make my move (with or without her help)... even after I slipped twice in the kitchen.
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Old 09/07/2012, 02:16 pm   #23
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I'd argue that if you aren't attached to Clem as a character it's because you're either playing The Walking Dead as a video game (I'm going to win the apocalypse!), you're too young to feel any kind of attachment to a kid, or for just whatever reason her character design is too uncanny valley for your mind to pick her up as an actual kid. She looks up to you, relies on you, and you owe her your life. It's a weird, cool relationship.
Wha--... you're saying I'm not gonna win the game?
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Old 09/07/2012, 02:21 pm   #24
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Wha--... you're saying I'm not gonna win the game?
In fact I think a lot of people have just lost too.
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Old 09/07/2012, 02:37 pm   #25
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Think of it this way... If you were going to take care of a child in the zombie apocalypse, would you not feel responsible for her?
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Old 09/07/2012, 10:27 pm   #26
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How about you wouldn't have survived the first 20 minutes of the game if she hadn't saved your ass from the babysitter?
Doesn't really sound like a valid point to me, actually. I was saved by... almost every person in the group, even by Lily. Didn't made me attached to them, either.
I think in ZA, people will be saving you now and then, and I really do not get why you judge people's deeds from our nowadays moral views.
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Old 09/07/2012, 10:37 pm   #27
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Think of it this way... If you were going to take care of a child in the zombie apocalypse, would you not feel responsible for her?
Ugh... No.
It's ZA.
The whole game for me was how moral no longer matter that much. Only who survives matter. Actually, the last choice in ep.2 (no spoilers) was the toughest choice for me.
And I was... well, amazed about how I make choices whom I want to survive. Turned out to be quite cruel.
But I myself do not have a strong bond with Clem. She saved me, as did (indirectly) Shawn, as did Kenny, as did Carley, as did Lily. But as of now, I would gladly kill Lily, and Kenny became quite a nuisance despite I thought we might be friends.
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Old 09/07/2012, 11:58 pm   #28
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Doesn't really sound like a valid point to me, actually. I was saved by... almost every person in the group, even by Lily. Didn't made me attached to them, either.
Right. When the ZA starts and you're scrabbling for shelter from the oncoming gaggle of zombies, I'll be the chick that trips you and leaves your soulless butt as bait.
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Old 09/08/2012, 04:22 am   #29
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Jesus. She's a kid. K-I-D.
I don't care how about her. Is she good or very bad?? I'll protect her anyway. I know it''s just a game but please don't lose your human nature, guys.
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Old 09/08/2012, 04:24 am   #30
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Right. When the ZA starts and you're scrabbling for shelter from the oncoming gaggle of zombies, I'll be the chick that trips you and leaves your soulless butt as bait.
LMAO sounds like you had that as a plan for people you don't like anyway when a ZA hits.

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Jesus. She's a kid. K-I-D.
I don't care how about her. Is she good or very bad?? I'll protect her anyway. I know it''s just a game but please don't lose your human nature, guys.
Agreed. All I can say is by Episode 5 Clem in his game might leave him to die for treating her bad.

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Doesn't really sound like a valid point to me, actually. I was saved by... almost every person in the group, even by Lily. Didn't made me attached to them, either.
I think in ZA, people will be saving you now and then, and I really do not get why you judge people's deeds from our nowadays moral views.
Except Clem was the first ever person to save Lee and on top of that had been surviving for days before Lee found her. So yer that is a pretty good and valid point because Lee would have been dead before anyone else saved him. And I guess that Lilly saved you because you tried to save her dad right? If you did not try and save her dad Kenny would come to your rescue and Lilly would rather watch you fry on the fence then save you.

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Old 09/08/2012, 05:01 am   #31
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Agreed. All I can say is by Episode 5 Clem in his game might leave him to die for treating her bad.
Let's see, man...
Zargus, I'll remember your name. When we finish this game, we'll talk about your story and mine. Ok???
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Old 09/08/2012, 06:14 am   #32
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Let's see, man...
Zargus, I'll remember your name. When we finish this game, we'll talk about your story and mine. Ok???
Sounds like a plan. I do think Clem is going to have a huge role in the next episode or episode 5 and it is going to be because of the choices we made. Reason being is because most of the big ones she was their watching you.
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Old 09/08/2012, 07:51 am   #33
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Man, I believe Clem. But I think If we meet her parents and they're a bad guys (before maybe they're good but ZA can change their personality). That's a real problem. That's more difficult choice than (like you said) she'll treat me.
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Old 09/08/2012, 01:14 pm   #34
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Clem: Duck blaims me for everything..

Clem: He blaimed me for putting a bug on his pillow.

Lee: Did you?

Clem: ....Yeah...

LOL's all around.
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Old 09/08/2012, 01:59 pm   #35
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Clem: Duck blaims me for everything..

Clem: He blaimed me for putting a bug on his pillow.

Lee: Did you?

Clem: ....Yeah...

LOL's all around.
What the hell! as I know the conversation wasn't like that
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Old 09/09/2012, 06:32 am   #36
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I see the validity of the point the OP is getting across, but looking at this forum I see some behaviour that stands out much more. And it makes me ask the question:

Why do people give so much of a damn about Carley? After EP 1 she played a much more minor role, disappearing for the centre portion of Ep 2. Hardly enough communication to rationally get so attached.

Perhaps because she was the best looking, perhaps because some tail seemed promising. I don't know what it was that made people think she was so much more special and valuable than the rest of the members. And to make it funnier, when I read people moaning wishes for her to come back/survive the shot, it always sounds more like they're talking about a dead pet.
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Old 09/09/2012, 07:43 am   #37
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I see the validity of the point the OP is getting across, but looking at this forum I see some behaviour that stands out much more. And it makes me ask the question:

Why do people give so much of a damn about Carley? After EP 1 she played a much more minor role, disappearing for the centre portion of Ep 2. Hardly enough communication to rationally get so attached.

Perhaps because she was the best looking, perhaps because some tail seemed promising. I don't know what it was that made people think she was so much more special and valuable than the rest of the members. And to make it funnier, when I read people moaning wishes for her to come back/survive the shot, it always sounds more like they're talking about a dead pet.
The benefits of Carley:

-- Good shot.
-- Loyal.
-- Likes Lee.
-- Pretty selfless, all things considered.
-- Biologically necessary female.

Do women like Lilly or Lori fit all these criteria? (Well, they'd probably fit the last one, but still...) No? Then neither of them are an adequate partner during a zombie apocalypse.

I mean, let's face it. Most women only care about themselves even before a zombie apocalypse hits. Carley recognizes the superiority of Lee's leadership ability and is therefore better than Lilly. Noticing the superiority of her peer, Lilly knew immediately that she was overmatched at contributing to the group as well as having a chance with Lee, so she did the only logical thing a coward would do in her situation.

The fact that Telltale sidelined Carley so often is only further proof that they weren't aware of Carley's superiority, or likeability, etc.
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Old 09/09/2012, 11:12 am   #38
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I mean, let's face it. Most women only care about themselves even before a zombie apocalypse hits.
Wow. Misogynistic much?
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Old 09/09/2012, 11:16 am   #39
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Wow... just... wow.
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Old 09/09/2012, 01:04 pm   #40
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Jesus. She's a kid. K-I-D.
I don't care how about her. Is she good or very bad?? I'll protect her anyway. I know it''s just a game but please don't lose your human nature, guys.
Agreed. All I can say is by Episode 5 Clem in his game might leave him to die for treating her bad.
That would be so hilarious of that could happen.

"Screw you, Lee! Im only eight but Im better off by myself. Im a crack shot, after all."

Then she takes a shot at him if he tries to follow.
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