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YamiRaziel · 09/14/2012, 09:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Cyreen

They don't have to be organized, they just have to have the numbers and guns. They very definitely outnumbered 5 adults and 3 kids and our group weren't a bunch of sharp shooters either. Lilly was administrative Air Force (ooh scary!), she could shoot and so could Carley, however Kenny was right, the bandits could come in the middle the night and they'd all be dead. As it was, they came in broad daylight and had the entire group down on their knees. The motor inn was begging to fall. It was fine against walkers, but otherwise they were screwed.

Ben was on watch.. that's why he says sorry, when they pack into the RV.
If Lilly was on watch that would never happen. In ep. 2 she hears/notices Lee and the injured teacher like 30 seconds before they actually become visible.

She might have been only administrative Air Force but I'm sure being around such people had taught her things. As I said, I'm not saying she's professional but we can bet she will be better than let's say Ben... or Kenny (if we consider his way of saving his family in ep. 2).

Cyreen · 09/14/2012, 09:20 pm

If I were a bandit, I would have picked the sentry right out of their lawn chair from the tree line. I suspect seeing Ben, they weren't all that worried, but seeing as Lilly's the one who put him there...

YamiRaziel · 09/14/2012, 09:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Cyreen

If I were a bandit, I would have picked the sentry right out of their lawn chair from the tree line. I suspect seeing Ben, they weren't all that worried, but seeing as Lilly's the one who put him there...

What do you mean with "picked the sentry right out of their lawn chair form the tree line"? You mean like shoot them from the forest? I've never seen them use sniper rifles, so I don't think they have any.

As for Ben being on watch, I would say that things were quiet for the last couple of days. I guess Lilly decided Ben has to learn to be responsible too. She can't be everywhere.
Had she known about his deal with them, she would have acted differently.
Why didn't Lilly put Carley on watch? I guess she didn't trust her enough and there is really nobody else but Ben.

Xarne · 09/14/2012, 11:25 pm

Well that RV was definitely within an arrow's range of the treeline, so its pretty clear it was Ben's deal that kept them from an all out assault. Ray Charles could have been on watch and nothing would have happened.

The fact that Jolene... crazy ass Jolene could just walk right in and grab Clem's hat from within the compound- a night raid by bandits would have been a cake walk. The motel was good defense against walkers, but crappy against humans.

Thing is, those bandits...we never knew the true size of their group and worse: they knew where we sleep, we didnt have any location on them. That's ambush city right there. Ya, it was time to go- as dangerous as travel would be, they were clearly on borrowed time at the Motel. Thanks, Ben.

FarmerJoe · 09/15/2012, 03:33 am

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Originally Posted by Cyreen

And yet Jolene stole a ball cap.

Jolene's video at the end of episode 2 clearly show Clem with Lilly outside the motel. Clem probably forgot her hat outside somewhere when she was playing or drawing her pictures. Jolene saw this and most likely picked it at night when they were all sleeping inside.So its very unlikely that she actually manage to get inside the motel.

Rock114 · 09/15/2012, 05:07 am

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Originally Posted by YamiRaziel

What do you mean with "picked the sentry right out of their lawn chair form the tree line"? You mean like shoot them from the forest? I've never seen them use sniper rifles, so I don't think they have any.

As for Ben being on watch, I would say that things were quiet for the last couple of days. I guess Lilly decided Ben has to learn to be responsible too. She can't be everywhere.
Had she known about his deal with them, she would have acted differently.
Why didn't Lilly put Carley on watch? I guess she didn't trust her enough and there is really nobody else but Ben.

Actually, I believe it was just Ben's TURN for watch. In Episode 2, if you examine the fence at the motel, Lee says that Carley has been doing a good deal of the sentry work. They likely had some kind of schedule for who would be on watch and when, and it just so happened to be Ben's turn when Lee and Kenny returned.

Xarne · 09/15/2012, 05:12 am

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Originally Posted by FarmerJoe

Jolene's video at the end of episode 2 clearly show Clem with Lilly outside the motel. Clem probably forgot her hat outside somewhere when she was playing or drawing her pictures. Jolene saw this and most likely picked it at night when they were all sleeping inside.So its very unlikely that she actually manage to get inside the motel.

Ahh, so Clem was playing outside of the walled in compound...the 8yr old...playing outside in walker land...

YamiRaziel · 09/15/2012, 06:35 am

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Originally Posted by Rock114

Actually, I believe it was just Ben's TURN for watch. In Episode 2, if you examine the fence at the motel, Lee says that Carley has been doing a good deal of the sentry work. They likely had some kind of schedule for who would be on watch and when, and it just so happened to be Ben's turn when Lee and Kenny returned.

Could be. I forgot about that. Thanks

As for Clem, I support FarmerJoe. I doubt Jolene ever entered the motor inn. She probably picked the hat from outside.

Rock114 · 09/15/2012, 06:45 am

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Originally Posted by YamiRaziel

Could be. I forgot about that. Thanks

As for Clem, I support FarmerJoe. I doubt Jolene ever entered the motor inn. She probably picked the hat from outside.

Maybe. But, why would any of the adults let either Duck or Clem play outside the wall? There's plenty of rooms around they can do stuff in, or even in the parking lot. Why let them play with the walkers...

I don't want any of these people raising my future children

Phantom Command · 09/15/2012, 06:49 am

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Originally Posted by Rock114

Maybe. But, why would any of the adults let either Duck or Clem play outside the wall? There's plenty of rooms around they can do stuff in, or even in the parking lot. Why let them play with the walkers...

I don't want any of these people raising my future children

I agree with the raising kids bit but in Joleens vid we see Clem colouring outside the gate as Lee pushes a car out of the way and Lilly goes to see what she's drawing.

The thing that got me was that Clem said she lost her hat a coulpe of days ago and Lee has only just noticed?

Rock114 · 09/15/2012, 06:49 am

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Originally Posted by Phantom Command

I agree with the raising kids bit but in Joleens vid we see Clem colouring outside the gate as Lee pushes a car out of the way and Lilly goes to see what she's drawing.

The thing that got me was that Clem said she lost her hat a coulpe of days ago and Lee has only just noticed?

That IS a good point. Shows how much he cares...

Phantom Command · 09/15/2012, 06:53 am

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Originally Posted by Rock114

That IS a good point. Shows how much he cares...

Kenny says something at the start of Ep 3 when he asked if Clem still hates him for stealing from the car and if you say you don't know Kenny says something like "do you even talk to her anymore" made me laugh.

DreadMagus · 09/15/2012, 06:14 pm

You know, another thread got me thinking about something...

There's only been a week between episode 2 and 3....

Ben's only been there a week... meds can only have been missing a week....

Making Ben the obvious suspect.

Yet... She also accuses Carley and then takes her down like a zombie.

This means.... either she used this to take out a rival or she really did go batshit crazy.

Sloppy writing? Or a real flaw to the character?

Xarne · 09/15/2012, 06:23 pm

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Originally Posted by DreadMagus

You know, another thread got me thinking about something...

There's only been a week between episode 2 and 3....

Ben's only been there a week... meds can only have been missing a week....

Making Ben the obvious suspect.

Yet... She also accuses Carley and then takes her down like a zombie.

This means.... either she used this to take out a rival or she really did go batshit crazy.

Sloppy writing? Or a real flaw to the character?

If there was ever a 'an open discussion' night with the devs I'd love to hear their take on this. I mean, it is so blatant how Lily kills her you cant help but think it wasnt a straight out assassination.

Master of Aeons · 09/15/2012, 06:49 pm

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Originally Posted by xarne

if there was ever a 'an open discussion' night with the devs i'd love to hear their take on this. I mean, it is so blatant how lily kills her you cant help but think it wasnt a straight out assassination.

PLAYlNG DEAD

YamiRaziel · 09/15/2012, 07:12 pm

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Originally Posted by DreadMagus

You know, another thread got me thinking about something...

There's only been a week between episode 2 and 3....

Ben's only been there a week... meds can only have been missing a week....

Making Ben the obvious suspect.

Yet... She also accuses Carley and then takes her down like a zombie.

This means.... either she used this to take out a rival or she really did go batshit crazy.

Sloppy writing? Or a real flaw to the character?

Actually she does blame both Ben and Carley. It depends how you play it. Plus if you have Doug, she goes straight for Ben.
Apparently she was distrustful of Carley, as I am of Kenny

jaybreezy · 09/16/2012, 03:39 am

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Originally Posted by DreadMagus

You know, another thread got me thinking about something...

There's only been a week between episode 2 and 3....

Ben's only been there a week... meds can only have been missing a week....

Making Ben the obvious suspect.

Yet... She also accuses Carley and then takes her down like a zombie.

This means.... either she used this to take out a rival or she really did go batshit crazy.

Sloppy writing? Or a real flaw to the character?

Maybe Lily realized what was going on when the bandits stopped attacking. Before the St John Dairy incident they never had a problem with the bandits. So, bandits start attacking after St John, all of a sudden they stop and drugs start coming up missing. That would leave anyone as a suspect, and if she had suspicions of Carly from the start they probably insified greatly during the argument.

YamiRaziel · 09/19/2012, 03:05 pm

I saw that in the TV show Andrea is going to Woodbury with Michonne instead of Rick. I guess they're gonna change stuff cause some things might be too inappropriate for a TV show.
Do you think that they will remove Lilly's part in the prison arc entirely or do you believe that she'll make some sort of appearance?
Daryl, Merl, the death of Dale and the uselessness of T-dog are already changing too much.

My bet is that T-Dog and Daryl will die. Daryl is getting too legendary to live and T-Dog is just way to useless to keep paying this actor

Deventh · 09/19/2012, 03:15 pm

Just wanted to share my love for Lilly <3 I'm currently reading the comics & starting soon the governor book.

YamiRaziel · 09/19/2012, 03:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Deventh

Just wanted to share my love for Lilly <3 I'm currently reading the comics & starting soon the governor book.

Great

There are not many Lilly fans

What do you think about the other female characters in the comic book? Andrea, Lori, Maggie... I can't recall all of them

09/14/2012, 09:20 pm	#202
Cyreen In base four! I'm fine! Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,339	If I were a bandit, I would have picked the sentry right out of their lawn chair from the tree line. I suspect seeing Ben, they weren't all that worried, but seeing as Lilly's the one who put him there... __________________ Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test.

09/14/2012, 11:25 pm	#204
Xarne Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: A forest, riddled with Meth Posts: 860	Well that RV was definitely within an arrow's range of the treeline, so its pretty clear it was Ben's deal that kept them from an all out assault. Ray Charles could have been on watch and nothing would have happened. The fact that Jolene... crazy ass Jolene could just walk right in and grab Clem's hat from within the compound- a night raid by bandits would have been a cake walk. The motel was good defense against walkers, but crappy against humans. Thing is, those bandits...we never knew the true size of their group and worse: they knew where we sleep, we didnt have any location on them. That's ambush city right there. Ya, it was time to go- as dangerous as travel would be, they were clearly on borrowed time at the Motel. Thanks, Ben. __________________ Tired of inconvenient deaths in your ZA? http://thesims.com/en_us/the-sims-3-...ic_home_google

09/15/2012, 06:14 pm	#213
DreadMagus Arrgh! Thar Be Zombies! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: The space between worlds. Posts: 2,089	You know, another thread got me thinking about something... There's only been a week between episode 2 and 3.... Ben's only been there a week... meds can only have been missing a week.... Making Ben the obvious suspect. Yet... She also accuses Carley and then takes her down like a zombie. This means.... either she used this to take out a rival or she really did go batshit crazy. Sloppy writing? Or a real flaw to the character? __________________ WITCH! Oh sorry, got confused by all your crying. ~ Francis

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09/19/2012, 03:05 pm	#218
YamiRaziel Lilly Fan #1 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Woodbury Posts: 774	I saw that in the TV show Andrea is going to Woodbury with Michonne instead of Rick. I guess they're gonna change stuff cause some things might be too inappropriate for a TV show. Do you think that they will remove Lilly's part in the prison arc entirely or do you believe that she'll make some sort of appearance? Daryl, Merl, the death of Dale and the uselessness of T-dog are already changing too much. My bet is that T-Dog and Daryl will die. Daryl is getting too legendary to live and T-Dog is just way to useless to keep paying this actor

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Deventh Molly Fan Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 47	Just wanted to share my love for Lilly <3 I'm currently reading the comics & starting soon the governor book.