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jangjangchang · 09/16/2012, 11:41 am

Kenny has always had my back so I'll have his.

The relationship with Lilly never has you two joking and smiling at each other. She never cares to be your buddy or have your back in times of need.

She sees you as someone she can use. She sees you as a vote. Not Lee.

Side with Kenny he can see you're more then a vote.
You're more then Lee.

You're a friend. Get his back and he'll get your back.

FarmerJoe · 09/16/2012, 12:07 pm

You're a friend.Get his back and he'll get your back.

hmm,a friend until you disagree and step out of line, only once, and then you're not worth saving anymore.To me that's seems very petty and vindictive.Having to agree with someone 100% of the time for them to even consider you worthy of helping anymore stinks! I don't appreciate being someones little bitch.What kind of a friendship is that?
In the pharmacy(episode 3) Kenny has a gun and he still doesn't help Lee?!

To me, that makes Kenny's friendship the fake one.

Viser · 09/16/2012, 12:18 pm

What do you mean she doesn't have your back when you need it??

Have you tried siding with her on the meat locker to see who has your back and who doesn't??

Kiel555 · 09/16/2012, 12:21 pm

Yeah....that's what happened to me too. When Kenny says I needed to earn that boat ride or RV ride he means it. Unfortunately, I did not follow Kenny's commands as faithfully as others and stepped out of line now and again. Oh well, I didn't want to get on a boat anyways.

Wrighty · 09/16/2012, 12:35 pm

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Originally Posted by FarmerJoe

You're a friend.Get his back and he'll get your back.

hmm,a friend until you disagree and step out of line, only once, and then you're not worth saving anymore.To me that's seems very petty and vindictive.Having to agree with someone 100% of the time for them to even consider you worthy of helping anymore stinks! I don't appreciate being someones little bitch.What kind of a friendship is that?
In the pharmacy(episode 3) Kenny has a gun and he still doesn't help Lee?!

To me, that makes Kenny's friendship the fake one.

I try to keep my arguments to the fuck Kenny thread but I'll post here once.

Kenny wasn't sure if he was able to save you gun or no gun. And when there are loads of walkers swarming, all using your pistol would do is waste ammo. And I bet most people are angry because they supported Keny until he meat locker, then he was angry at Lee. But I don't blame him, Lees who saved Lary risked his life and risked his family being eaten by the cannibals slowly and painfully for an old guy who treated everyone else like shit and might be dead. . They forced him to kill Larry by himself and shoulder the guilt himself, even if it was the right call.

Also I think moments like Kenny trusts you enough to tell you Duck is bitten (he could have kept quiet, or lied) and when offers to teach you how to use he train, in case he dies, shows how much of a good friend he is.

Rock114 · 09/16/2012, 12:44 pm

Actually, you DON'T have to agree with him 100%. I refused to take the food in Ep2, and I shot the girl in Ep3 when he told me not to. And then? When the door fell on Lee and he called for Kenny, Kenny ran back to me without a moment's hesitation to try and help lift the door off of me. The friendship with Kenny DOES feel more satisying than the one with Lilly, at least I think. Especially because now Kenny is the only original group member left.

And does Kenny tell you about Duck's bite no matter what? The dialouge after changes if he's your friend or not, but I'm not sure about the scene itself.

SonnyN18 · 09/16/2012, 01:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Rock114

Actually, you DON'T have to agree with him 100%. I refused to take the food in Ep2, and I shot the girl in Ep3 when he told me not to. And then? When the door fell on Lee and he called for Kenny, Kenny ran back to me without a moment's hesitation to try and help lift the door off of me. The friendship with Kenny DOES feel more satisying than the one with Lilly, at least I think. Especially because now Kenny is the only original group member left.

And does Kenny tell you about Duck's bite no matter what? The dialouge after changes if he's your friend or not, but I'm not sure about the scene itself.

you didn't say if you help killed larry or not. if u help then he helps you in the drug store

Rock114 · 09/16/2012, 01:15 pm

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Originally Posted by SonnyN18

you didn't say if you help killed larry or not. if u help then he helps you in the drug store

Yea, I helped him with Larry. But people say that, no matter what, disagree with him once and he'll try to kill you. I don't always agree with him, and he helped me. So no, you don't have to do what he says all the time. Just proving a point.

Lin001 · 09/16/2012, 02:13 pm

Both are just too extreme. That's why I never trusted'em 100%. And considering that Kenny just lost his family, he'll be pretty much unstable in the next chapters( At least I think so), so I will just look out for me and Clem.

Edit: Chuck seems to be a nice guy, though.

SonnyN18 · 09/16/2012, 02:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Rock114

Yea, I helped him with Larry. But people say that, no matter what, disagree with him once and he'll try to kill you. I don't always agree with him, and he helped me. So no, you don't have to do what he says all the time. Just proving a point.

no, what most people say is that if u disagree with him on that one point ( killing larry ) then he'll try to kill you

Instant Karma · 09/16/2012, 03:10 pm

There's a fine line between not helping someone and killing them. Just because he's not sticking his neck out for you doesn't mean he's trying to kill you, it means you aren't his friend.

dubesor · 09/16/2012, 03:52 pm

Both aren't friends.

Kenny is an egocentric idiot who turns on you even if you agreed on 99% of the situations and only once didn't help (like KILL someone).

Lilly is wannabe-boss and maniac.

The only people I could consider being good friends in this series are unfortunately all dead or gone. That would be Doug, Carley, Glenn and Mark for me. Screw the rest of the people.

Rock114 · 09/16/2012, 05:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Rock114

Actually, you DON'T have to agree with him 100%. I refused to take the food in Ep2, and I shot the girl in Ep3 when he told me not to. And then? When the door fell on Lee and he called for Kenny, Kenny ran back to me without a moment's hesitation to try and help lift the door off of me. The friendship with Kenny DOES feel more satisying than the one with Lilly, at least I think. Especially because now Kenny is the only original group member left.

Yeah. Quoted myself. I feel so cheap.

Master of Aeons · 09/16/2012, 05:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Rock114

Yeah. Quoted myself. I feel so cheap.

*tucks a dollar in your g-string*

adontimasu · 09/16/2012, 06:49 pm

Bullshit Kenny is your friend. He uses you just as much as Lilly does. If you disagree with Kenny on one solitary thing, he will hold it against you forever, and will never respect you or consider you a friend. Seriously. Don't side with him in the meat-locker and see what happens.

Cyreen · 09/16/2012, 06:51 pm

I'll quote you too, just so you don't feel so dirty, K?

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Originally Posted by Rock114

And does Kenny tell you about Duck's bite no matter what? The dialogue after changes if he's your friend or not, but I'm not sure about the scene itself.

He does, whether he's your friend or not. If Lilly outs Lee's past, Kenny does get a little shirty about honesty (on my Dougie game).

Rock114 · 09/16/2012, 07:40 pm

Ty Cy...but I kind of need money... btw, ty for that dollar master of aeons.

Master of Aeons · 09/16/2012, 07:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Rock114

ty for that dollar master of aeons.

That's "Master"! Now put on something nice and get out on that stage! Before I pop ya one!

Rock114 · 09/16/2012, 07:46 pm

Yes Master! Whatever you say, just don't pull a Lilly on me!

IndigoHawk · 09/16/2012, 07:55 pm

Kenny is an interesting character. People either think he's an ally or scum based on whether they agree with him at a couple critical points. Disagree with him about the direction of the group (gasp, how dare Lee have his own opinion), and he shows his true colors. Agree with him all the time, and it seems like he has your back.

For me, Kenny lost respect in two instances. First, he helps Duck without even a glance at the other guy or trying to come back. That told me he's looking out for his family, and not capable or willing to help others, including Lee or Clem. That was ok, but it made me realize he was no ally. When Kenny refused to help Lee in the barn, I knew that he was a coward, too. Lilly, who just had her father murdered and looted, came out swinging. She's a fighter, and I was sad she snapped. She may not be Lee's friend, but she didn't freeze up when Lee needed her.

I agree that players can't have the same kind of fake friendship with Lilly that they have with Kenny. Lilly is more honest that she's out for hers while Kenny fools Lee.

However, the people who side with Kenny don't see evidence that he's scum, so for those playthroughs, he's a friend. I hope there's a way for people to never have to disagree with Kenny and get betrayed. (Although I don't know how good a friendship is if it's based on always doing what the other person wants.)

09/16/2012, 11:41 am	#1
jangjangchang Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 212	The "friendship" with Lilly is fake. Kenny has always had my back so I'll have his. The relationship with Lilly never has you two joking and smiling at each other. She never cares to be your buddy or have your back in times of need. She sees you as someone she can use. She sees you as a vote. Not Lee. Side with Kenny he can see you're more then a vote. You're more then Lee. You're a friend. Get his back and he'll get your back. Last edited by jangjangchang; 09/23/2012 at 05:25 pm.

09/16/2012, 12:07 pm	#2
FarmerJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 337	You're a friend.Get his back and he'll get your back. hmm,a friend until you disagree and step out of line, only once, and then you're not worth saving anymore.To me that's seems very petty and vindictive.Having to agree with someone 100% of the time for them to even consider you worthy of helping anymore stinks! I don't appreciate being someones little bitch.What kind of a friendship is that? In the pharmacy(episode 3) Kenny has a gun and he still doesn't help Lee?! To me, that makes Kenny's friendship the fake one. Last edited by FarmerJoe; 09/16/2012 at 12:14 pm.

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09/16/2012, 12:18 pm	#3
Viser Ben is a cool guy Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Brazil Posts: 422	What do you mean she doesn't have your back when you need it?? Have you tried siding with her on the meat locker to see who has your back and who doesn't??

09/16/2012, 12:21 pm	#4
Kiel555 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Bay area, California Posts: 575	Yeah....that's what happened to me too. When Kenny says I needed to earn that boat ride or RV ride he means it. Unfortunately, I did not follow Kenny's commands as faithfully as others and stepped out of line now and again. Oh well, I didn't want to get on a boat anyways.

09/16/2012, 12:44 pm	#6
Rock114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: U.S. of A. Posts: 1,708	Actually, you DON'T have to agree with him 100%. I refused to take the food in Ep2, and I shot the girl in Ep3 when he told me not to. And then? When the door fell on Lee and he called for Kenny, Kenny ran back to me without a moment's hesitation to try and help lift the door off of me. The friendship with Kenny DOES feel more satisying than the one with Lilly, at least I think. Especially because now Kenny is the only original group member left. And does Kenny tell you about Duck's bite no matter what? The dialouge after changes if he's your friend or not, but I'm not sure about the scene itself.

09/16/2012, 02:13 pm	#9
Lin001 Zombie Fighter Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 30	Both are just too extreme. That's why I never trusted'em 100%. And considering that Kenny just lost his family, he'll be pretty much unstable in the next chapters( At least I think so), so I will just look out for me and Clem. Edit: Chuck seems to be a nice guy, though.

09/16/2012, 03:10 pm	#11
Instant Karma Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 50	There's a fine line between not helping someone and killing them. Just because he's not sticking his neck out for you doesn't mean he's trying to kill you, it means you aren't his friend.

09/16/2012, 03:52 pm	#12
dubesor Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Europe Posts: 718	Both aren't friends. Kenny is an egocentric idiot who turns on you even if you agreed on 99% of the situations and only once didn't help (like KILL someone). Lilly is wannabe-boss and maniac. The only people I could consider being good friends in this series are unfortunately all dead or gone. That would be Doug, Carley, Glenn and Mark for me. Screw the rest of the people.

09/16/2012, 06:49 pm	#15
adontimasu Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 22	Bullshit Kenny is your friend. He uses you just as much as Lilly does. If you disagree with Kenny on one solitary thing, he will hold it against you forever, and will never respect you or consider you a friend. Seriously. Don't side with him in the meat-locker and see what happens.

09/16/2012, 07:40 pm	#17
Rock114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: U.S. of A. Posts: 1,708	Ty Cy...but I kind of need money... btw, ty for that dollar master of aeons.

09/16/2012, 07:46 pm	#19
Rock114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: U.S. of A. Posts: 1,708	Yes Master! Whatever you say, just don't pull a Lilly on me!

09/16/2012, 07:55 pm	#20
IndigoHawk Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 123	Kenny is an interesting character. People either think he's an ally or scum based on whether they agree with him at a couple critical points. Disagree with him about the direction of the group (gasp, how dare Lee have his own opinion), and he shows his true colors. Agree with him all the time, and it seems like he has your back. For me, Kenny lost respect in two instances. First, he helps Duck without even a glance at the other guy or trying to come back. That told me he's looking out for his family, and not capable or willing to help others, including Lee or Clem. That was ok, but it made me realize he was no ally. When Kenny refused to help Lee in the barn, I knew that he was a coward, too. Lilly, who just had her father murdered and looted, came out swinging. She's a fighter, and I was sad she snapped. She may not be Lee's friend, but she didn't freeze up when Lee needed her. I agree that players can't have the same kind of fake friendship with Lilly that they have with Kenny. Lilly is more honest that she's out for hers while Kenny fools Lee. However, the people who side with Kenny don't see evidence that he's scum, so for those playthroughs, he's a friend. I hope there's a way for people to never have to disagree with Kenny and get betrayed. (Although I don't know how good a friendship is if it's based on always doing what the other person wants.)