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Old 09/21/2012, 07:58 am   #1
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Let me just say something first. I love The Walking Dead so far. I think it's the best thing Telltale's done since The Devil's Playhouse, and I'm not complaining about the game itself in any way.

However, it seems like the game is bringing in a lot of people who, what's the nicest way to say this...aren't interested in being part of the community.

You're unhappy with the release schedule? Fine. I admit Telltale needs to communicate stuff like this better myself. But it seems like that's all that's ever discussed anymore. It'd be nice if we could at least keep that stuff contained to a single "release date bitching" thread.

But what really gets me is how the blog posts about the Sam and Max/Monkey Island sales got flooded with comments going "Don't care, where's the next Walking Dead episode?" Maybe it's just because I love Sam and Max and Monkey Island, but that kind of stuff just really rubs me the wrong way.

I mean, let's be fair, everyone's new at first. You don't need to have an in-depth knowledge of Telltale's library to be here (though it helps ). And no, you don't have to care about those games. But keep it to yourself, especially if you're going to use it as an excuse to segue into something completely irrelevant. What would you think if, the next time Telltale did a Walking Dead-related blog post, I went "Don't care, where's Sam and Max Season 4?" Or how about I go into every single thread you make and say "Don't care, go buy my new book?" You'd probably think I was a huge jackass, and you'd be correct. Since apparently apathy needs to be broadcasted, I really don't care that you don't care.

Sorry for the rant, I just needed to get this off my chest.
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Old 09/21/2012, 08:31 am   #2
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Very well said.
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Old 09/21/2012, 08:40 am   #3
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I didn't realize it was bleeding over into the other forums. It's bad enough here. Wouldn't it be lovely if we could just hook up some jumper cables and give the humorless stiffs a little joy buzz (just a little one, I promise!)?
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Old 09/21/2012, 09:12 am   #5
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The blog comments are a disgrace, but don't see them as representative of the TWD-induced community. These few are mostly people who would never make an effort at being part of this community - people who don't even register, because unfortunately, that is not even necessary to post on the blog. Those who think that getting on everyone's nerves would somehow speed up the development of the episodes.

But these guys are not the tip of the iceberg, they are the brunt of the unsocial lot. Those who are happy to wait two months for their 4$-15 minute-comic fix, but not even one for a 5$-2 hour game. A minority, I am sure of it. Behind the forum walls, as you can see, things aren't exactly peachy, but at least the moderators can separate complaints from insults and, as is most relevant here, Walking Dead stuff from the other games.

Telltale has chosen not to make that separation in their blog posts, certainly an admirable anti-censorship effort, but with a potential of inter-community conflict that I personally would not risk. If I could edit blog comments, I'd certainly unpack the axe, I can tell you. Right now, those few purposefully disruptive commenters risk that the old ToMI/S&M community mistakes their behavior for that of any Walking Dead fan, which would, among other things, lead to stark opposition to a second Season.

I see very few of the old crew in the TWD subforums, and that hurts. I concede there's a definite old TTG fanbase - new TTG fanbase hostility going on, which just has to stop.
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Old 09/21/2012, 09:14 am   #6
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The Walking Dead was the reason I joined the forums,I haven't played Sam and Max but I enjoyed Monkey Island.
I was taught patience and good things come to those who wait by my parents.I enjoy the episodic nature of these games, especially since I haven't bought a game since May and probably will only buy Assassin's creed 3 before the year's end.

I don't really care that it takes two instead of one month to finish because I know that I will get what I paid for.People have a right complain if they want, but people tend to be rude assholes about it in most situations. I belive in treating people as I would hope to be treated by them.I'm SO glad that I don't have to deal with the general public in my job.
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Old 09/21/2012, 09:18 am   #7
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This generation seems to be all now,now,now and me,me,me.
Instant gratification.

It is bigger than just this game, that's the consumer culture. I am sure all of us are like that with certain things. Some of us can just hold our patience better than others with this particular thing.
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Old 09/21/2012, 09:36 am   #8
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RAnthonyMahan, is the Devil's Playground good? I haven't played it yet. What's the plot, or theme about? I loved BTTF as well as The Walking Dead. They are well thought out, and thankfully The Walking Dead is not solely focused on the zombie aspect. I love when games focus more on a psychological aspect, and love even more that it is a social experiment. More games should be.
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Old 09/21/2012, 09:38 am   #9
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...is the Devil's Playground good? I haven't played it yet.
I'm guessing you're not familiar with Sam & Max. The Devil's Playground is AWESOME. Check out some Youtube walkthroughs to get a feel.

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I see very few of the old crew in the TWD subforums, and that hurts. I concede there's a definite old TTG fanbase - new TTG fanbase hostility going on, which just has to stop.
That's a shame. I may be relatively new to the forum, but I've been a Telltale customer for much longer (I have my Sam & Max Surfin' print framed on my office wall).
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Old 09/21/2012, 09:41 am   #10
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Honestly, this happens when any game goes mainstream. Sam and max and the monkey island series didn't get the attention TWD did. Im telling you one thing tho, Telltale loves new people to join the community no matter who they are because it boosts sales. And about community members complaining about release dates thats highly understandable. Telltale created a criteria it didn't follow. (1-month release) The fact is this is society and if you can't simply ignore what you dislike about these forums then boooo hooo Telltale still won't cater to your wants and needs.
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Old 09/21/2012, 09:46 am   #11
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i think going onto other forums, endlessly posting new threads and general trolling is wrong, but genuine complaints and criticism should be welcomed, especially because we are the consumers and we have paid/will pay for the product
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Old 09/21/2012, 09:48 am   #12
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Is it okay to complain about the Corrupted Save Data issues plaguing the PS3game?!! I've already invested easily over 25 hours replaying the game because of it.

It appears that the corrupt data save glitch triggers upon playing the latest Episode (Episode 2 or 3) on the 3rd Save Slot. It happens either before the 1st Chapter of the episode even starts, or during, but it happens. I Thought the latest patch fixed the problem (since I was able to finally complete Episode 2 on all 3 Save Slots), but apparently not, since all my saves got wiped clean upon playing Episode 3 on the 3rd Save Slot.

I'm excited about Episode 4, but not about trying to recapture previous playthrough choices by replaying all Episodes over again differently. There's no excuse for it. That's the way I see Telltale shitting on their new fans.

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Old 09/21/2012, 10:03 am   #13
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I'd like to say that I'm new here, and that I'm here for the Walking Dead and the Walking Dead only.

I'm not an adventure gamer.... at least not this kind of adventure gaming. At All.

And the chances of me deviating into some of TTG's other works are probably slim, though I'll never say impossible. I did get into Minecraft recently, a game I avoided like the plague for the longest time... so you never know.

That said, I think people (read: NEW PEOPLE) need to realize that they are guests here and act accordingly. Bitching, whining, ranting and making general asses of themselves about this and that (as stated by the op and I feel no need to copy him) is counterproductive and these people should really take a step back and stop acting like entitled hyperactive children.

It's embarrassing, annoying to those of us who are new here and want a new place to post, and most importantly.... will not get you what you want, nor make anyone take your mindlessly repetitive crying seriously.
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Old 09/21/2012, 11:44 am   #14
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I've been registered for a long time (circa Sam and Max season 1, I think), but I only joined to talk about Walking Dead. When the series ends I'll probably go on to the Monkey Island and Sam and Max forums.
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Old 09/21/2012, 12:09 pm   #15
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Came here for the walking dead only so i cant really comment on the fanbase before but i agree people need to grow up when their favourite character is killed or when TT has to take a little longer to finish an episode.
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Old 09/21/2012, 12:23 pm   #16
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Being this is my first game from TT I am really enjoying the story driven dynamics of this game. I like how its more immersive than other ZA games. Yes the Walking Dead is the reason I bought the game from TT but that doesnt mean I wont give their other games a try. I think this generation of young people *14-24 years old I dare say* these days expect instant gratification right away. They have no understanding of patience and the virtues of waiting for something good. *And yes I am 21 years old*
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Old 09/21/2012, 03:43 pm   #17
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I'm sorry you feel that way OP. Outside of teamliquid.net, I usually avoid forums. Being a huge Walking Dead fan I figured I'd give this place a try after episode 1. I'm pretty glad I did though, I've been able to read and take part in some fun discussions in here.

I raised my own concerns about the release dates while waiting for episode 2, but after playing it I was content to wait. I've enjoyed their story and I'm looking forward to the rest of the season. Hopefully folks will mellow out a bit as the season progresses.
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Old 09/21/2012, 04:32 pm   #18
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^ + 2 internets for bringing some measured reason to the discussion. +1 more for your Lamb's Bread-invoking handle. The two may be related; perhaps some of the unhappy new forumites should share your hobby.

EDIT: I forgot to thank OP for the thread title. It has inspired me to find ways to work "shitting up" into future conversation.

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Old 09/22/2012, 09:46 am   #20
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I've been a Telltale customer for a while but only active on the forums since TWD. However, I hope we can all find a way to be cooperative and agreeable on this site. Yes people may address complaints (we all have), but it has to be a productive criticism where it leads to suggestions for improvement and not "you guys suck and we hate you." As long as Telltale is receptive to this (which they have been for a lot of things), then I think we can be more reasonable in our postings.

And as much as I may occasionally gripe on the choice system, ultimately no game is truly a choice driven game. You have limited options as it is without budget constraints so you will have to accept that sometimes the choices do not always yield wildly different results. Mass Effect had quite a few choices, but a lot of them didn't do squat to change the main plot. They just altered peripheral elements and side plots. Other than that, things in the main plot were pretty clearly defined if only slightly changed in tone. You still did the suicide mission in the same order, you still fought Saren, you still reached a specific sequence of events in the end of each game, etc. Not to diss Mass Effect at all (except for ME3's ending), but it's just the truth about the relative infancy of gaming. It is still restricted to programming and coding, no matter how much choice it claims to offer.
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