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YamiRaziel · 09/22/2012, 05:12 pm

Nah, don't worry. I didn't take it as a personal attack. I just thought I wasn't being clear enough as to what I meant

CupcakeUnicorn · 09/22/2012, 10:56 pm

This being the "Lily appreciation" thread I have to ask.... is anyone getting the book "The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury"? It's apparently all about Lily and how she ended up with the Governor's group. I wonder if the story of how she and her father started out with Lee's group will be in it and how the story will differ from the game if it is. I'm very excited for the book and hopefully more of a background for Lily.

Edit: sorry if this has already been talked about, I skimmed the thread and didn't see anything.

Warp zx · 09/23/2012, 02:50 am

I would consider Lilly to be a very well written character, wuth a great story arc, but that doesn't stop me from hating her guts for what she did.
She's a murderer, and is too unstable to be a good leader.

YamiRaziel · 09/23/2012, 05:17 am

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Originally Posted by CupcakeUnicorn

This being the "Lily appreciation" thread I have to ask.... is anyone getting the book "The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury"? It's apparently all about Lily and how she ended up with the Governor's group. I wonder if the story of how she and her father started out with Lee's group will be in it and how the story will differ from the game if it is. I'm very excited for the book and hopefully more of a background for Lily.

Edit: sorry if this has already been talked about, I skimmed the thread and didn't see anything.

Some of us are definitely getting the book

We will report as soon as it is released

Rock114 · 09/23/2012, 08:04 am

I might get the book myself, if I can just bring myself to finish the first one.

DreadMagus · 09/23/2012, 11:00 am

I'm getting it, and I haven't even read the first one. lol

YamiRaziel · 09/23/2012, 02:22 pm

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Originally Posted by DreadMagus

I'm getting it, and I haven't even read the first one. lol

Read it... it is a good read... if you're a fan of TWD it is definitely worth your time

CupcakeUnicorn · 09/23/2012, 03:06 pm

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Originally Posted by YamiRaziel

Read it... it is a good read... if you're a fan of TWD it is definitely worth your time

I agree with this. It was very good and slightly shocking. Cannot wait for lily's story though! I do hate her for straight up murdering an innocent person and/or trying to murder a young impressionable boy that made a mistake. But something that big will have impacted her and I wanna see how she got from Lee's group to where she ended up in the comic.

RedKoolLoops · 09/23/2012, 03:55 pm

I'm going to be really, really disappointed if they've just shrugged off the canon of the game to make Lilly their 'own' character in 'The Road to Woodbury'.

KCohere · 09/23/2012, 04:06 pm

I read the first one. I didnt care for it.

KMatt · 09/24/2012, 02:29 am

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Originally Posted by RedKoolLoops

I'm going to be really, really disappointed if they've just shrugged off the canon of the game to make Lilly their 'own' character in 'The Road to Woodbury'.

Prepare to be disappointed then.

On the Walking Dead castlist for this game under Lilly, the description used to have this line at the end:

"Fate will one day cause Lilly to play a large part in the life of Rick Grimes"

If you look now that line has been removed. Looks like Telltale know it won't tie up anymore. Thats not Telltales fault at all, its a real shame Kirkman decided to screw them over like that.

FarmerJoe · 09/24/2012, 02:49 am

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Originally Posted by KMatt

Prepare to be disappointed then.

On the Walking Dead castlist for this game under Lilly, the description used to have this line at the end:

"Fate will one day cause Lilly to play a large part in the life of Rick Grimes"

If you look now that line has been removed. Looks like Telltale know it won't tie up anymore. Thats not Telltales fault at all, its a real shame Kirkman decided to screw them over like that.

Sadly I think Kirkman gave Telltale the go ahead then later thought "hmm Lilly, that's given me an idea..." While I hate the fact that the game Lilly is ,very likely, no longer the comic one I can ,grudgingly,understand why. Given all the different choices in the game it would of been difficult for Kirkman to carry on Lilly's story coherently without choosing a specific canon path. Therefore he has probably decide to create his own back story which will invalidate game Lilly.

If this is truly the case I wonder if Telltale will decide to do more with their Lilly in future seasons or will they just let people decide which Lilly they choose to be canon for them.

RedKoolLoops · 09/24/2012, 03:02 am

They've removed that line!? FTS.

I think that's pretty selfish on Kirkman's part. Especially after numerous interviews and discussions from Telltale and himself mentioning that the game follows the canon of the comics and that several comic characters would be showing up; one of them Glenn and the other being Lilly.

Sean Vanaman even stated that it was the same Lilly in one of the early Playing Dead episodes if I recall correctly. I get that RK can do whatever he likes and all but still...

Meh, I'll probably still buy it anyway and just pretend it's the same Lilly.

KMatt · 09/24/2012, 03:46 am

The plot to this game was written up atleast 18 months ago. At that time Telltale and Kirkman were in agreement that Lily was canon.

Looks to me that Kirkman kept TTG in the dark for some time and have only recently come clean to them that he has written a new Lily backstory, breaking any continuity with the game and comic.

YamiRaziel · 09/24/2012, 11:22 am

Guys, those are just speculations.

Even if the backstory is a bit different, as long as her character is the same I will be happy.

CupcakeUnicorn · 09/24/2012, 01:18 pm

I think it'll be the same lily, they may just leave out what happened with lee's group other than how her dad died. (it would make sense that she wouldn't wanna talk about it.) and Possibly pick up right after she got left on the side of the road/took the rv.

Rock114 · 09/24/2012, 01:53 pm

Kenny said she could go 30 miles max with the RV, so the book could still start out on the side of the road. A lot of people who play the game, including me, would feel a bit cheated if the Lillys are two different people.

YamiRaziel · 09/24/2012, 02:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Rock114

Kenny said she could go 30 miles max with the RV, so the book could still start out on the side of the road. A lot of people who play the game, including me, would feel a bit cheated if the Lillys are two different people.

Especially when the game Lilly complements so beautifully the characterization of the comic book Lilly.

FarmerJoe · 09/24/2012, 02:43 pm

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Originally Posted by CupcakeUnicorn

I think it'll be the same lily, they may just leave out what happened with lee's group other than how her dad died. (it would make sense that she wouldn't wanna talk about it.) and Possibly pick up right after she got left on the side of the road/took the rv.

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Originally Posted by Rock114

Kenny said she could go 30 miles max with the RV, so the book could still start out on the side of the road. A lot of people who play the game, including me, would feel a bit cheated if the Lillys are two different people.

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Originally Posted by YamiRaziel

Especially when the game Lilly complements so beautifully the characterization of the comic book Lilly.

Picking up Lilly's story with her on the side of a road would work.Her keeping silent about her time with Lee's group due to the pain and trauma of her father's death and the guilt of snapping and killing a fellow group member could also work but I really fear Kirkman has other ideas in mind.

Like Rock114 I would feel cheated if game Lilly turns out to be someone completely different. I totally agree with YamiRaziel that the game Lilly's story arc fits perfectly with the comic book Lilly, it would be a damn shame if Kirkman throws it away. I'll read the book but it will be somewhat tainted if it's a different Lilly.
The removal of the line KMatt mentioned along with the name change of the trophy/achievement "Woodbury bound" into "What now?" doesn't fill me with much hope. Believe FarmerJoe, believe,believe,believe.....

CupcakeUnicorn · 09/24/2012, 03:10 pm

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Originally Posted by FarmerJoe

The removal of the line KMatt mentioned along with the name change of the trophy/achievement "Woodbury bound" into "What now?" doesn't fill me with much hope. Believe FarmerJoe, believe,believe,believe.....

I didn't realize they changed the achievement as well.... hmm doesn't fill me with much hope.

09/23/2012, 11:00 am	#246
DreadMagus Arrgh! Thar Be Zombies! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: The space between worlds. Posts: 2,089	I'm getting it, and I haven't even read the first one. lol __________________ WITCH! Oh sorry, got confused by all your crying. ~ Francis

09/24/2012, 03:02 am	#253
RedKoolLoops Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: UK Posts: 138	They've removed that line!? FTS. I think that's pretty selfish on Kirkman's part. Especially after numerous interviews and discussions from Telltale and himself mentioning that the game follows the canon of the comics and that several comic characters would be showing up; one of them Glenn and the other being Lilly. Sean Vanaman even stated that it was the same Lilly in one of the early Playing Dead episodes if I recall correctly. I get that RK can do whatever he likes and all but still... Meh, I'll probably still buy it anyway and just pretend it's the same Lilly. Last edited by RedKoolLoops; 09/24/2012 at 04:25 am.

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09/22/2012, 05:12 pm	#241
YamiRaziel Lilly Fan #1 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Woodbury Posts: 774	Nah, don't worry. I didn't take it as a personal attack. I just thought I wasn't being clear enough as to what I meant

09/22/2012, 10:56 pm	#242
CupcakeUnicorn Blackjack Pegasister Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: candy mountain Posts: 61	This being the "Lily appreciation" thread I have to ask.... is anyone getting the book "The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury"? It's apparently all about Lily and how she ended up with the Governor's group. I wonder if the story of how she and her father started out with Lee's group will be in it and how the story will differ from the game if it is. I'm very excited for the book and hopefully more of a background for Lily. Edit: sorry if this has already been talked about, I skimmed the thread and didn't see anything.

09/23/2012, 02:50 am	#243
Warp zx Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 25	I would consider Lilly to be a very well written character, wuth a great story arc, but that doesn't stop me from hating her guts for what she did. She's a murderer, and is too unstable to be a good leader.

09/23/2012, 08:04 am	#245
Rock114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: U.S. of A. Posts: 1,703	I might get the book myself, if I can just bring myself to finish the first one.

09/23/2012, 03:55 pm	#249
RedKoolLoops Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: UK Posts: 138	I'm going to be really, really disappointed if they've just shrugged off the canon of the game to make Lilly their 'own' character in 'The Road to Woodbury'.

09/23/2012, 04:06 pm	#250
KCohere Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 219	I read the first one. I didnt care for it.

09/24/2012, 03:46 am	#254
KMatt Walkie-Talkie-Stalkie-Man Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 118	The plot to this game was written up atleast 18 months ago. At that time Telltale and Kirkman were in agreement that Lily was canon. Looks to me that Kirkman kept TTG in the dark for some time and have only recently come clean to them that he has written a new Lily backstory, breaking any continuity with the game and comic.

09/24/2012, 11:22 am	#255
YamiRaziel Lilly Fan #1 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Woodbury Posts: 774	Guys, those are just speculations. Even if the backstory is a bit different, as long as her character is the same I will be happy.

09/24/2012, 01:18 pm	#256
CupcakeUnicorn Blackjack Pegasister Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: candy mountain Posts: 61	I think it'll be the same lily, they may just leave out what happened with lee's group other than how her dad died. (it would make sense that she wouldn't wanna talk about it.) and Possibly pick up right after she got left on the side of the road/took the rv.

09/24/2012, 01:53 pm	#257
Rock114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: U.S. of A. Posts: 1,703	Kenny said she could go 30 miles max with the RV, so the book could still start out on the side of the road. A lot of people who play the game, including me, would feel a bit cheated if the Lillys are two different people.