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View Poll Results: Favourite Doctor?
William Hartnell 3 1.56%
Patrick Troughton 9 4.69%
Jon Pertwee 2 1.04%
Tom Baker 19 9.90%
Peter Davison 1 0.52%
Colin Baker 3 1.56%
Sylvester McCoy 5 2.60%
Paul McGann 3 1.56%
Christopher Eccleston 32 16.67%
David Tennant 76 39.58%
Matt Smith 39 20.31%
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Old 09/30/2012, 03:50 am   #2881
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Amongst other things...

Also, loved that Peter Davison video.
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Old 09/30/2012, 05:50 am   #2882
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imo most of the angels looked goofy and fake when snarling/bearing teeth other wise the rest looked ok.

other wise the end of the ponds was kinda lame an angel survives and takes them..really ?

imo they should of left it at the roof top they jump off time resets but amy and rory don't return we just see their graves and a tomb stone inscription about reading the book.. and then the doctor just ups and leaves that remaining angel in manhattan ? really ??

on the plus side 'owen' is smokin
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Well, of course, it doesn't really end there... the Eighth Doctor was in New York in 1938 as well, where he'd be able to pick them up and go on many adventures.
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And like I said, so long as the Doctor returns them to the 19whatevers, there's nothing to stop them having more adventures, or him taking them to see their parents and whatnot.

And hey, whatever happened to Spoilers?
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And like I said, so long as the Doctor returns them to the 19whatevers, there's nothing to stop them having more adventures, or him taking them to see their parents and whatnot.

And hey, whatever happened to Spoilers?
I figured I needn't bother a mod by reporting the previous post for spoilers. They're busy enough as we're appearing to go through another spammer attack around now.

Also no Eighth Doctor picks them up and they go on adventures you are wrong it has been Gatiss' plan all along
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I thought his secret plan was to make him self the 12th and final Doctor .
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also matt smith doc says he tried to go back but can't cos the time line is so messed up in 1938 or whatever

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also matt smith doc says he tried to go back but can't cos the time line is so messed up in 1938 or whatever
How about 1945? Or 1950? Not so tangled there.
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The Doctor said he couldn't go back. I think the Ponds dropping back fifty years or more and then ageing to death is like Adric dying.... the Doctor can't save him/them or even go and say goodbye because it has already happened. Sending them the book to publish is different, though, because the events leading to their deaths rely on it.

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You mis-spelt 'spoiler'.

Eh, that's open to interpretation. I still think the Doctor can pop back and say hello - I think he even said that. There's no real record of them doing anything, just that they die in their 80s. In THE 80s, if I got the timespan right. The book basically detailed the events of the episode, not what they did afterwards. Who's to say they can't do more?
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When Rory read that tombstone, I nearly shouted "OH SHIT!" in my tiny hotel room with my sleeping roommate. Out of the whole episode, I think that was probably the best done moment. It tied everything together that we learned that episode into a nice drama moment right there. I don't know if anyone agrees with me, that was just my feeling on the subject.
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So the Ponds are now stuck in middle century New York. And, in about 3 decades, their daughter will be there. Are they going to do something with that, or will they just ignore the continuity?
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One thing that bothered me about the episode, that I couldn't stop thinking about was that even with the fact that there was a lot of temporal disturbance focussed around new York in 1938, what was to stop them materialising just outside of new York, and taking a train in or something? Plus he could still go back with the vortex manipulator river used to get there. Why was she there anyway?
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One thing that bothered me about the episode, that I couldn't stop thinking about was that even with the fact that there was a lot of temporal disturbance focussed around new York in 1938, what was to stop them materialising just outside of new York, and taking a train in or something? Plus he could still go back with the vortex manipulator river used to get there. Why was she there anyway?
It could be more complicated than was discussed in the episode. Perhaps the rift was connected to Amy and Rory and so no matter where they went it would still be in effect. Or perhaps this is a convenient loophole that Moffat will be exploiting later when he wants to bring them back for a cameo. I believe the second option is more likely.

Or maybe the Doctor really hates trains. Like, a lot.
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I think it's not that Doctor Who couldn't do it, it's that Amy and Rory had let him go and he, though recognizing how sad it is, has to let go of them too.

Until Doctor Who #8 and Charley rescue them, that is.
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You all also need to remember that River said the Doctor couldn't bare seeing them aged. Going to a later date, say, 1950, would mean he would have to face the fact that Rory and Amy will die sooner than he will anyway. And sure, he could go to an earlier date to meet them later, but that would mean he would have to stay put for a very long time, and aside from the fact that the Doctor has a serious case of cannot-stay-still, he would risk exposing himself to the world again, after the trouble he went through erasing himself from history.
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the doctor didn't erase himself, it was owen the dalek who deleted the doctor in the premier episode...

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No, Oswin removed him from the Daleks. He's been going around doing similar things to everyone and every database in the universe between episodes.

Anywho, new image of Paul McGann in character klaxon.
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So what happened to Amy and Rory waving to there past selfs in Cold Blood?
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