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Old 09/30/2012, 03:24 pm   #41
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Now what I want know is that what's the difference between this three words ?

abhor
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Abhor is a verb. You can abhor something. (I abhor potatoes.)

Abhorrence is a noun. You can call something an abhorrence. (Potatoes are an abhorrence.)

Abhorrent is an adjective. You can only describe an object with the modifier as abhorrent. (That is an abhorrent potato.)

No idea why I chose those.

If anyone has anything else to add, I'd appreciate it. I feel I'm lacking something.
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Thanks a lot
but how much of these words we have in English ?
I mean with the same meaning but different Spelling in place of verb,noun and adjective
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There are many of them. Sadly, a lot of them just require repetition to learn since there aren't definite rules to how they work. It's daunting, I know, but if you spend time with movies, TV shows, and books, it should start sounding natural after awhile. If you go the book route, you can look up any word you aren't familiar with and maybe write down the word and the part of speech it belongs to in a notebook or something for reference.
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Quite a lot. In fact, the joke is that in English, any noun can be verbed. Some people abhor that, though, so try to use proper nouns/verbs/adjectives when you know them.

By the way, "abhor" is a strong word, so it is not used very often. People are more likely to use the word "hate" instead. Hate is normally a verb but is sometimes used as a noun, too ("His eyes were full of hate when he saw the potato."), though the correct noun for it is hatred.
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From what I've been told, the best way to learn the language is to read books. Sometimes, even if you don't know the exact definition of a word, you can often discern (or recognize) what a general idea of the definition might be from the context of the word (or the sentence/paragraph around the word).

So, if you didn't know what "abhor" meant, but you saw or read about someone giving a potato to Alcoremortis, and she got angry or disgusted and said "Eww! I abhor potatoes!" You would be able to discern from the context that "abhor" indicates a negative opinion of some kind even if you're a bit fuzzy on the details.

So I would recommend reading a lot. It will help you.

[EDIT:] Oh, and when I recommended reading books, rather than just reading in general, it's because if you try to learn proper English from reading forum conversations, facebook posts or twitter feeds on the net, then you'd probably get a number of things wrong because there are a lot of people on the net who couldn't spell, punctuate or have proper grammar skills even if their lives depended on it. So long as your primary teaching tool isn't from people who are themselves ignorant, you should be okay.
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What is mean of
is incorrect.

More correct would be "What does ... mean" or "What is the meaning of ..."

The word 'mean' can be a verb (to mean), a noun (the mean) or an adjective (mean) which are used very differently and have largely varying meanings.

The word 'meaning' is the correct noun to the verb 'to mean' when referring to what a word means.

(Could any of you native speakers please be so kind and make this a bit more understandable? Because reading my post I just realised that I don't understand what I mean here ...)
Mean does have several different definitions, depending on the context.

The word "mean" can refer to the "definition" of something; it can also refer to someone who makes other people feel bad; and again it can refer to a middle number value (count to five: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. The middle number is 3 and is therefore the mean number.) Someone might now argue with me about the difference between the word "mean" and the word "median," but in this case, you get the idea.


In the context of this conversation, the word "mean" refers to the "definition."
You could say "what does 'surged' mean?", "what is the meaning of the word 'surged?'", "what is the definition of the word 'surged?'", or "how do you define 'surged?'"

There's that noun-becomes-a-verb situation again. When you're looking at a word, it may containt a prefix and/or a suffix in addition to the root word. The root word of "definition" is the word "define." the -tion part of the word is called a suffix and changes how the root word is used.

Try "abhor." "Abhorrent" and "Abhorrence" both have the same root word "abhor," but use different suffixes (-ent and -ence) which change the way the root word is used. The meaning of the root word is the same, but the way it is used in a sentence is slightly different.
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Thanks again, Now I'm using a dictionary that called WordPower, it's a cool dictionary. very useful
I've start to learn worlds that starts with the letters of A
then B,C,D and...
I should learn atleast 20000 new worlds
I'll back with more questions
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Thanks again, Now I'm using a dictionary that called WordPower, it's a cool dictionary. very useful
I've start to learn worlds that starts with the letters of A
then B,C,D and...
I should learn atleast 20000 new worlds
I'll back with more questions
thanks
Some people think it's not polite to nitpick at someone's grammar and spelling, but in this case, since the whole point of this thread is that you're actually trying to learn (which is cool, by the way), please don't take offense if I fix your posts sometimes.


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Thanks again, Now I'm using a dictionary that's called WordPower, it's a cool dictionary. Very useful. (this is not a complete sentence, but this is only a conversation on a forum, so it will suffice.)
I've started to learn worlds that start with the letters of A then B, C, D and...
I should learn at least 20000 new words.
I'll back with more questions.
Thanks.
Again, this was overly nitpicky. I was just wanting to point out that the root word "start" required the suffix "-ed" for the manner you used it in.

"Start" is present tense, meaning something that that happens now (I start to learn words).
"Started" is past tense, meaning that it has already happened. (I've started to learn words).
The "-ed" suffix makes it past tense.

http://www.helpingwithverbs.com/lessons/VerbTense.htm
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Thanks Chyron8472, why should some people think it's not polite ? I've asked help and you helped me to find out my wrongs. thanks

I want to continue this thread after a long time

My first question is when should we use of "holdup" ?
for example I heard that Shepard told to Wrex "What's the holdup?" and he answered "Road's out"
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The phrase "What's the hold up?" is another way of saying "What's taking so long?" or "Why aren't we moving?".

If something is holding you up, it is preventing you from doing things, making you put what you were doing on 'hold'.
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Thanks it's clear enogh now
What does "we have to abort" mean ? a pilot said that
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Aborting something means that you're being forced to stop doing it for some reason. "We have to abort" is another way of saying "We have to stop".
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You help me again, thanks again
The English language is really sweet
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Abort means more than just stop, though. It usually means you had plans, but something changed, and now you can't do them anymore. When a pilot aborts, it means something has happened so that the pilot cannot continue as planned. (Maybe one of the plane's engines failed, and the pilot now has to land as soon as possible.)

Abort usually means stop, but you can stop without aborting. If the pilot arrives as planned and stops the airplane, we don't say he aborted.
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Thanks then abort is something that doesn't going as planned and should be stop

I have four more questions

1- What is the meaning of "call off" in bottom sentence ?
"They had to call off the airstrike"

2- What does "You're a trailblazer" mean ?

3- What is the meaning of this sentence ? ""Had" being the operative word "

4- And last question is that What does "Step on it" mean ?
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Thanks then abort is something that doesn't going as planned and should be stop

I have four more questions

1- What is the meaning of "call off" in bottom sentence ?
"They had to call off the airstrike"

2- What does "You're a trailblazer" mean ?

3- What is the meaning of this sentence ? ""Had" being the operative word "

4- And last question is that What does "Step on it" mean ?
1. "Call off" is used in a very similar way as "abort". It means we were going to do something but can't do it any more so have to cancel. In the airstrike context, it implies that a higher ranking person is doing the canceling.

2. A trailblazer is another word for a pioneer, an explorer. So when we say someone's a trailblazer, it's like saying that they're adventurous and trying something brand new.

3. This one's a bit tricky. It usually would be associated with another sentence. Then "'Had' being the operative word." would be an emphasis on the fact that something in the previous sentence only was a thing of the past and not necessarily true now.

4. "Step on it" refers to stepping on the gas pedal of a vehicle. So it basically means "drive faster" or in broader usage "do anything faster".
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From what I've been told, the best way to learn the language is to read books. Sometimes, even if you don't know the exact definition of a word, you can often discern (or recognize) what a general idea of the definition might be from the context of the word (or the sentence/paragraph around the word).
The best way to learn vocabulary after you've gained a certain level of proficiency in the language is certainly to read books. It is not a good way to learn to speak a language though -- it is a separate skill.

From my personal experience as a second language teacher and learner, I would say that the best way to start learning a language is to listen to it a lot, even if you don't really understand. Getting used to the phonetic patterns of a language will make things a lot easier to understand as you go along. Sadly, there's really no substitute for experience, although you could probably gain a decent level of proficiency at reading/writing just from being on the internet a lot, actually speaking is a slightly different matter.
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1. "Call off" is used in a very similar way as "abort". It means we were going to do something but can't do it any more so have to cancel. In the airstrike context, it implies that a higher ranking person is doing the canceling.

2. A trailblazer is another word for a pioneer, an explorer. So when we say someone's a trailblazer, it's like saying that they're adventurous and trying something brand new.

3. This one's a bit tricky. It usually would be associated with another sentence. Then "'Had' being the operative word." would be an emphasis on the fact that something in the previous sentence only was a thing of the past and not necessarily true now.

4. "Step on it" refers to stepping on the gas pedal of a vehicle. So it basically means "drive faster" or in broader usage "do anything faster".
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The best way to learn vocabulary after you've gained a certain level of proficiency in the language is certainly to read books. It is not a good way to learn to speak a language though -- it is a separate skill.
One thing to keep in mind, N7, is that speaking and writing are different in how sentence structure is normally accepted.

Again, this is a public forum, so we often will write how we would speak--and also there are quite a lot of people here for whom English is their primary language, yet they have no idea how to use proper spelling and grammar.

My point is that learning proper sentence structure is important. It's much more important in writing than in speaking. When speaking, we may often use phrases and half-sentences instead of complete sentences. The reasons why I say this are because using proper sentence structure, grammar and spelling when writing will greatly help you to sound more competent, and will almost certainly help you to get a better job.
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thanks, I'm back again with more questions, sorry if it's much

1- What does "Shroud" mean in following sentence ?
Getting to that Shroud is all that matters
(that's what Wrex told Shepard about the building that was genophage cause!)

2- What does "We made it back outside" mean ?

3- What is the meaning of "You're looking at hope"

4- What does "Given a chance" mean in following sentence ?
This was once a world full of beauty. Given a chance, it can be again

5- What is the difference between "tremor" and "quake" ?

6- When should we use "preoccupied" and what is the difference with "busy" ?

7- What does "Break off" mean in following sentence ?
Break off! We're getting out of here

8- What does "Shake" mean in following sentence ?
We'll try to shake this thing and find you!

Sorry if it's a bit much
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