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View Poll Results: Date of Episode 4? I think it's...
Mon Sept 10 12 1.62%
Tues Sept 11 2 0.27%
Wed Sept 12 1 0.13%
Thurs Sept 13 0 0%
Fri Sept 14 5 0.67%
Mon Sept 17 0 0%
Tues Sept 18 0 0%
Wed Sept 19 0 0%
Thurs Sept 20 3 0.40%
Fri Sept 21 5 0.67%
Mon Sept 24 4 0.54%
Tues Sept 25 12 1.62%
Wed Sept 26 8 1.08%
Thurs Sept 27 18 2.43%
Fri Sept 28 42 5.66%
Mon Oct 1 21 2.83%
Tues Oct 2 10 1.35%
Wed Oct 3 17 2.29%
Thurs Oct 4 7 0.94%
Fri Oct 5 13 1.75%
Mon Oct 8 8 1.08%
Tues Oct 9 20 2.70%
Wed Oct 10 29 3.91%
Thurs Oct 11 14 1.89%
Fri Oct 12 26 3.50%
Mon Oct 15 30 4.04%
Tues Oct 16 48 6.47%
Wed Oct 17 53 7.14%
Thurs Oct 18 29 3.91%
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Old 10/06/2012, 07:53 pm   #561
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im 100% certain TTG is just as clueless as everyone else.

they probably come close to closing the deal, only to discover some bug/glitch tha takes a week or two to fix
I know, the guy that voted was probably just guessing or trying to make us think it's coming out on the 9th. I just felt I needed to make that joke
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Old 10/06/2012, 08:50 pm   #562
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I have a feeling that episode 4 will release either Oct 9 or Oct 12. I'll welcome a new episode on the eve of AMCs The Walking Dead Season 3...
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Old 10/06/2012, 08:58 pm   #563
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Question C'mon Telltale

Ill try to make this really concise, but first things first I really do love this game. I have always loved point and click / sort-of-free realm games and TWD is the best game Ive ever played in that aspect (so dont reply saying "im complaining"). I honestly think its brilliant and top 10 games ive played all time (even though I dont play that many video games)...

Anyways on to the point, I have never seen such a train wreck as TT is doing with this game developing. Look its my opinion, and I know posting on a forum of TWD fanboys (I consider myself a step below fanboy-dome, whatever that is...) I will most likely receive negative replies but c'mon tt. The whole release dates are a mess. You are only kidding yourself, if you dont believe they have a 99.9% sure date for the release of epi 4. Why cant they just tell us? I dont understand. It is very frustrating, and in addition they dont even admit to it. Now I dont need an apology, personally I dont care at all but I dont understand how a company with a decent-size and following of tt just cant admit and say we are wrong. I think for me that would atleast take a little of my anger away.

Even watching the playing dead epi7, just infuriated me with how they beat around the bush. Now obviously as members of tt they arent going to come out and say we are terrible, but they could have been honest and just said we were wrong. Specifically with the carly/doug question (I give them a little respect for putting that question in) they make a bs excuse other than: we didnt want to make and develop 2 story lines. I mean its common logic to me, just say it.

Overall, I just have no respect for TT as a company with regards to the developmentalization (yep made that up) of this game. And like I said if your gonna argue for the game make a good case besides: its an amazing game, your complaining, etc etc etc. I told you i LOVE this game, but I feel its a shame that TT produces it. Doesnt it bother anyone else that they never are true to their word, never offer a 100% release date, and dont outright say "we were wrong"? keep in mind that im talking about telltale not the actual game ppl.
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Old 10/06/2012, 10:38 pm   #564
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Next week I feel it'll come out, but in the mean time I'll stay lost in the land of Pandora.
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Old 10/06/2012, 10:49 pm   #565
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I can see how the "very soon" and "very very soon" estimates on when the next episode will be released may not be sufficient when it comes to exact release dates. But isn't this all just water under the bridge now? Let's just say it takes about 60-70 days between episodes and move on. You said you don't need an apology and I don't need an apology so let's let it go.

You could focus on the positive aspects of TTG to help take some of the edge off the TBA release dates. For example, I could be wrong, but I think TTG is the only game that has a show that goes along with it like Playing Dead. Who does that?

Gary Whitta is also active in the forums. He's the guy that wrote the Book of Eli and e4. Jake from TTG is answering questions from players. Do other games do this?

How about putting together the stats trailers. They don't have to do that you know.

I thought Harrison Pink gave a good answer to the question from a fan regarding Carley's death that was answered on Playing Dead #7. If you were not happy with his answer, Jake gave a better answer, IMO, to the same question in the Questions for the TTG team thread.

TTG knows by now where they need to make some improvements. Things like release dates and Duck missing from Kat's arms are not deal breakers...just things to work on.
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Old 10/07/2012, 12:53 am   #566
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I think it is going out at the 20 or 21 dunno just guessing i hope it is earlyer.
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Old 10/07/2012, 03:32 am   #567
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Only when I'm allowed to laugh at the "later in October" voters.
You can but you might end up looking very silly.
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Old 10/07/2012, 04:03 am   #568
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I don't think so.
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Old 10/07/2012, 04:09 am   #569
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In the past with earlier episodes, were we given a day or two notice before it came out? Or am I gonna wake up one morning, come on here, and see that the game is already out?
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With earlier releases, release dates were given - IIRC, I have absolutely no statistics ready - up to one week before the episode's release. That, however, was at a time before Telltale sold big in consoles. The console certification process is what makes the release date extremely hard to determine for TTG, so you should rather expect this to be a short notice again.
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Old 10/07/2012, 04:28 am   #571
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Overall, I just have no respect for TT as a company with regards to the developmentalization (yep made that up) of this game. And like I said if your gonna argue for the game make a good case besides: its an amazing game, your complaining, etc etc etc. I told you i LOVE this game, but I feel its a shame that TT produces it. Doesnt it bother anyone else that they never are true to their word, never offer a 100% release date, and dont outright say "we were wrong"? keep in mind that im talking about telltale not the actual game ppl.
It's a pain for sure. As you said, the game itself is fantastic and I personally think Telltale are the right developers for this game. Story driven games are their forte and they have done an outstanding job on this game.

The lack of communication is a bother for sure. Having worked in software development before (not games tho) my only thought on the lack of communication is that there is an agreement with Microsoft, Sony, Valve, etc to await comfirmation from them before anything official is released. Unofficially certain members of Telltale have hinted that the game has already been completed and is just awaiting certification. This is something they have no control over.

There is obviously something going on behind the scenes that we mere plebs just are not privliged to know. We just have to keep the faith and know it will be released eventually.

I know this is not much of an answer, but it makes more sense then Telltale just being a bunch of ignorant so-and-so's who don't care about keeping their fans informed. Having seen interviews with the staff I get the impression they are quite down-to-earth gamers like the majority of us on here and are most definatly not pricks.
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The whole release dates are a mess. You are only kidding yourself, if you dont believe they have a 99.9% sure date for the release of epi 4. Why cant they just tell us?
Name one other company with near monthly episodic releases across four different gaming platforms which does offer precise release dates (and in this case, regardless of size or influence of the company).

Anyone? Anyone?
Huh, didn't think so.

I imagine that Telltale runs on the tightest schedule known to man. In PC-only times, Telltale was able to announce a date relatively early... but still worked on those episodes until the release day. That's just not what other companies do (for retail releases, they have to have a final gold master ready weeks before the street date). If I have a development time of two years, I can project a release date without a problem, because I essentially always have more than a month of wiggle room (and still those projected dates mostly only are concrete one or two months before release). This doesn't work for episodic gaming, where the largest deal of work on the episode is done the month immediately before release.

I would never place a percentage stamp on said "largest deal", but it's true that a lot of arc planning/hiring and work on the engine are done before the Season starts, and it is also true that work on the episodes runs in parallel shifts (i.e. while episode one of any Season is just about to be released, voiceover work for number 2 could be about to be concluded and the script for episode 3 could be almost ready).
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Old 10/07/2012, 04:56 am   #573
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By the way, really appreciate Gary Whitta posting here, means they care about us, I think the release dates messing up wasn't their fault, probably TWD became much "bigger" than they thought causing a little delay.
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Old 10/07/2012, 05:48 am   #574
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Hey guys check out the duckpocalyps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1ZSobCzjcc

It is kind of fun
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Old 10/07/2012, 08:33 am   #575
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What is fun about clementine getting eaten?!? You monster!
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What is fun about clementine getting eaten?!? You monster!
No it was fun, that I never knew that it excisted I think it is funny, that TTG have made a hidden scenario, that takes place, if we cannot get Kenny to stop the train. It is always fun to look for small "eastern eggs" in games.

Most of the time in this game, when we make to grave mistakes, someone gets eaten, and then you get a game over.

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TTG have said that episodes 1-5 will be availible for a retail purchase on December 4th so the dim light at the end of the tunnel is that all this season will be out by then. Logically, I would think episode 4 would be out around October 15th-20th then episode 5 near to the end of November if they are going to reach the Dec 4th date
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We need to remember, however that Telltale is not committed to any date they set. As long as the episodes require more production time, the release dates will always change to compliment that requirement. The release date of episode 4 will really determine if there is any truth to the release date for the retail version. I'm not saying the entire season will not be released on December 4th, but we shouldn't put too much faith in the release date for the entire season, at least not until Episode 4 is out and we have a better idea of how much time will be left in the intervening period to produce one more episode and them compile them all onto one disc with all the extras and additional content.

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Old 10/07/2012, 10:52 am   #579
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Why has it been so long? Im sure episode 2 and 3 was close, maybe even less than a month, whats this been now, 5-6 weeks?
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Why has it been so long? Im sure episode 2 and 3 was close, maybe even less than a month, whats this been now, 5-6 weeks?
Actually, both episodes took at least two months to be released. If this episode comes out within the next two weeks, it will be the shortest wait thus far.
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