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Old 10/09/2012, 07:12 am   #1
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Spoilers! A thought on Kenny...

Who here other than me thinks the only thing that's going to keep Kenny going for these two episodes is getting Clementine first and foremost safely on a boat? of course assuming he doesn't die?

Kenny's agenda now that his (Spoiler) family is dead (Spoiler) is a big question mark, hes made it obvious he still wants to find the boat, okay, we get that, but him saying that imply there's something in this group he still feels willing to protect, that being Lee/Clementine, and he even went so far as to drop all his grudges and prejudices against you, I am hoping I am right because if protecting Lee and Clementine is his self-made goal then he's not going to leave us to die anymore.

Any other thoughts on this?

Oh and alcohol will help him cope too, it does that.

These forums sure are quiet right now, might be because people are playing EP4 at this instant, maybe I should hop off the forums for the day...

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Old 10/09/2012, 09:25 am   #2
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Who here other than me thinks the only thing that's going to keep Kenny going for these two episodes is getting Clementine first and foremost safely on a boat? of course assuming he doesn't die?

Kenny's agenda now that his (Spoiler) family is dead (Spoiler) is a big question mark, hes made it obvious he still wants to find the boat, okay, we get that, but him saying that imply there's something in this group he still feels willing to protect, that being Lee/Clementine, and he even went so far as to drop all his grudges and prejudices against you, I am hoping I am right because if protecting Lee and Clementine is his self-made goal then he's not going to leave us to die anymore.

Any other thoughts on this?

Oh and alcohol will help him cope too, it does that.

These forums sure are quiet right now, might be because people are playing EP4 at this instant, maybe I should hop off the forums for the day...
I think it'd be cool depending on your relationship with him, he is either gonna try and make Lee and Clem have a happy ending he never got, or if he hates you tries to get Clem away from you before you get her killed.
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Old 10/09/2012, 09:32 am   #3
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I think it'd be cool depending on your relationship with him, he is either gonna try and make Lee and Clem have a happy ending he never got, or if he hates you tries to get Clem away from you before you get her killed.
A idea, what if Lee in the trailer doesn't say "Anyone who gets between us is gonna wind up dead!" to the walkieman, and it's actually Kenny he says it to?
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Old 10/09/2012, 09:35 am   #4
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Kenny is my dude, I gotta save him if the opportunity presents itself. Kenny, Clem and myself are the only ones left from the original group. I'm gonna do my best to keep both safe because Kenny has saved me more than once and I have saved him as well. Plus he has the Porn Star Stache!!!!!!!!
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Old 10/09/2012, 09:38 am   #5
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Kenny is my dude, I gotta save him if the opportunity presents itself. Kenny, Clem and myself are the only ones left from the original group. I'm gonna do my best to keep both safe because Kenny has saved me more than once and I have saved him as well. Plus he has the Porn Star Stache!!!!!!!!
Where does Ben stand with you? for me he stands as part of the original group, the original group being the ones who lived in the motorinn.
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Old 10/09/2012, 09:41 am   #6
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I was referring to the very 1st episode. Those are the only 3 remaining. Ben has gotta make up for the things he has done so far! Dealing with the bandits without telling anyone resulting in Carley/Doug death, causing Lilly to go off the deep end (even though it might have been coming with the death of her father), and now it looks like he leaves poor little Clem by herself with walkers surrounding her...he has alot of making up to do if he wants to make up for himself!
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Old 10/09/2012, 09:44 am   #7
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I consider Ben the original group, and I will not tell Kenny about what he did. What good will that too? Only further piss off/depress Kenny, best to let it be a thing of the past and move on. I want to keep Ben alive but I got a feeling he'll die this episode no matter what along with Omid.
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Old 10/09/2012, 09:46 am   #8
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I was referring to the very 1st episode. Those are the only 3 remaining. Ben has gotta make up for the things he has done so far! Dealing with the bandits without telling anyone resulting in Carley/Doug death, causing Lilly to go off the deep end (even though it might have been coming with the death of her father), and now it looks like he leaves poor little Clem by herself with walkers surrounding her...he has alot of making up to do if he wants to make up for himself!
I personally count Ben as part of the original group, he may have made mistakes but he is just a teenager, its good to know where you stand, I don't think what hes done no matter how questionable, stupid, naive, and plain mean and inbecile like he is would really change what group he is in for me, i won't be surprised by Ben. personally I hold noone at fault, not even lilly, for what happened in EP3 with Carley, seeing as she was practically blinded with rage and may have even convinced herself that Carley really was guilty. I really just wonder why noone was keeping a better watch on the new kid...?

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I consider Ben the original group, and I will not tell Kenny about what he did. What good will that too? Only further piss off/depress Kenny, best to let it be a thing of the past and move on. I want to keep Ben alive but I got a feeling he'll die this episode no matter what along with Omid.
Although I agree with your stance, I don't intend to tell Kenny and I hope to god he doesn't.
Its kind of sad, I expect that nobody would complain about the lack of choice if Ben died, hopefully they realise its the episode before the climax and let it branch alittle with this episode, seeing as the end comes right after and needs to be big that isn't too much to ask I don't think.

Come to think about it, they were talking about a 'Scene' That branches massively, so maybe my wish will come to fruition.

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Old 10/09/2012, 09:51 am   #9
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yeah I agree 100%. I just want Ben to atone from his previous mistakes, I understand that he is a teenager and he might not think before he does something or he might just be frightened. I do understand that and I do think that was why he made the decisions that he has made. Don't get me wrong I want Ben around because we need all the help we can get, I just hope he starts owning up to his mistakes and learn from them. Ben seems like a good guy he just needs to grow a pair haha
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yeah I agree 100%. I just want Ben to atone from his previous mistakes, I understand that he is a teenager and he might not think before he does something or he might just be frightened. I do understand that and I do think that was why he made the decisions that he has made. Don't get me wrong I want Ben around because we need all the help we can get, I just hope he starts owning up to his mistakes and learn from them. Ben seems like a good guy he just needs to grow a pair haha
Cheers to hoping he steps up.
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Old 10/09/2012, 09:55 am   #11
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Yeah if Kenny finds out it's either gonna send him further down the bottle, or kill Ben in blind rage which he probably would regret later. They could easily have branching subplots for the last episode, like in 4 have a way for a character to die, or be saved instead of the usual die either way. It could be like the Doug/Carley choice but instead have it like Ben/Nobody, and if you saved him give him several lines in 5 mainly with Lee and Clem, or he's dead and you don't get to interact with him or get his opinion on what's going on. He doesn't need to be fully ingrained in the main plot in 5, just make him background like Doug/Carley were.

EDIT: I just want to be able to actually save someone for once without it costing another's life.

Save Carley, Lose Doug
Irene cannot be saved
Save Travis, dies anyway
Save the Teacher, dies anyway
Jolene cannot be saved
Mark cannot be saved
Larry cannot be saved
Duck cannot be saved
Katjaa cannot be saved
Carley cannot be saved
Lilly cannot stay

and I'm assuming Omid cannot be saved.

I know a lot of it has to do with advancing the story and it's just their time to go, but at lease give Lee a chance to save a life with no consequence for doing it before the season ends lol.

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Old 10/09/2012, 10:02 am   #12
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Yeah if Kenny finds out it's either gonna send him further down the bottle, or kill Ben in blind rage which he probably would regret later. They could easily have branching subplots for the last episode, like in 4 have a way for a character to die, or be saved instead of the usual die either way. It could be like the Doug/Carley choice but instead have it like Ben/Nobody, and if you saved him give him several lines in 5 mainly with Lee and Clem, or he's dead and you don't get to interact with him or get his opinion on what's going on. He doesn't need to be fully ingrained in the main plot in 5, just make him background like Doug/Carley were.
They could integrate rescued characters into ep5 pretty easily, the problem they had with Carley was that it was carried through episodes, we're talking about one episode, not 4-5. they just have to kill them off in five and they'd be fine assuming lee/clem are in season 2 which i'd wager they aren't.

I don't care how long 5 takes to release, I know it'll be sometime around december but it could go over it and I wouldn't care, I want a great ending to season 1, and the only way for a company to reach such a thing, is with time! My ideal ending would branch but end at the same place as everyone else--unless they don't intend to start with lee/clementine for season 2, inwhich case seperate endings would be ok with me.

I hope you do have the option of telling Kenny though, could lead to some intense drama.

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EDIT: I just want to be able to actually save someone for once without it costing another's life.

Save Carley, Lose Doug
Irene cannot be saved
Save Travis, dies anyway
Save the Teacher, dies anyway
Jolene cannot be saved
Mark cannot be saved
Larry cannot be saved
Duck cannot be saved
Katjaa cannot be saved
Carley cannot be saved
Lilly cannot stay

and I'm assuming Omid cannot be saved.

I know a lot of it has to do with advancing the story and it's just their time to go, but at lease give Lee a chance to save a life with no consequence for doing it before the season ends lol.
I really want a chance to do something like that, too. maybe the ending for ep5 will be the same but the characters you end it with won't, that would be awesome.

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Old 10/09/2012, 10:21 am   #13
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Does anyone actually believe there is a boat? If there is then Kenny doesn't look too pleased to be getting near it.
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Old 10/09/2012, 10:37 am   #14
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Does anyone actually believe there is a boat? If there is then Kenny doesn't look too pleased to be getting near it.
Theres nothing to say there isn't, yet, that could be them just trying to get to the dock where a boat could be.

EDIT: assuming your not playing it this instant, inwhich case this thread is null and I should stop posting in it and go hibernate for the day.
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Old 10/09/2012, 11:37 am   #15
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Kenny only has Lee and Clementine for him, Ben is a recent arrival (a week?) and Chuck / Christa / Omid are unknowns which are tagging along because of circumstance.

Whether he likes Lee or not, Kenny is probably going to mature into another character over these next coming episodes. Perhaps he'll come to terms with his guilt over the actions he's done (Shawn, Larry) for his family, maybe he'll stop blaming Lee for it if you didn't help him or he'll blame you for everything that's happened out of grief.

I'd like to see the player being able to comfort Kenny, bro or not. In the ending of the series ending, I'd like to imagine Kenny surviving, Lee dying and Kenny being the only one to protect Clementine as everyone else is gone.

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