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Old 10/10/2012, 02:35 pm   #1
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Did you drop Ben? Why or why not did you drop him?

I personally dropped him for multiple reasons.

1. He did give food to the bandits and forced us out of the camp.
2. Didn't fess up and got Carley/Doug killed
3. Because of this Duck got bit and caused Katjaa and Duck to both die.
4. Left Clem to die.
5. Let Clem leave the house when he should of been watching her!!!!
6. Clem gets back to house, you would think he would watch her right? "Uhh shes in the backyard playing" FUCKING REALLY?!
7. Took the hatchet from the door that was blocking the walkers.
8. Had to tell Kenny right than and there about everything. Time we could have used to all escape.

If it wasn't for the group he would have been walker food a loooong time ago. I was done with him when he let Clem get out of the house on her own to follow Lee. HE HAS ONE JOB! To watch a child. To make sure the child didn't get away. There was no way I was going to let him put anyone else in danger to save his skin. Dropped him. Save yourself this time idiot.
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Old 10/10/2012, 02:39 pm   #2
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I dropped him because he seems useless. Plus him asking for it made it even easier.
First of all he cheated the group by stealing supplies to trade to the bandits without telling anyone. That got 3 people killed (Doug/Carley, Duck and Katjaa).

Now that would already be bad enough but him not helping Clementine in the streets pretty much sealed the deal for me. He fucked up once majorly and then doesn't even help her. How can I feel any sympathy whatsoever for this useless piece of crap? And then he is like "Huh someone jammed this axe inbetween those door handles. Let's take it!". Dropped him and won't regret it. He had chances to make up for his mistakes and then fucked it up all over again. He was a waste of time and resources for the group.
He isn't smart, helpful, nor strong or sympathetic. I don't see any reason to keep him alive tbh.

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Old 10/10/2012, 02:40 pm   #3
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I saved him. I agree with all the things you've listed but he did one thing that made me change my mind. He admit his mistakes and was ready to die because of them. That is something that certain moustached person will never be able to do. Ben is developing and changing. He can become a great guy one day, who knows.

I think Lee's impeding doom will definitely change him for good. That is if anybody survives ep 5 :P
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Old 10/10/2012, 02:41 pm   #4
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I dropped him because he begged me to.
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Old 10/10/2012, 02:47 pm   #5
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I saved him. Not sure why I did, especially since after seeing the preview trailer with him leaving Clem, I was prepared to let him die. The hatchet stunt didn't help his case, but when it was time to make a decision I just couldn't do it. I guess Clem's speech before had something to do with that.
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Old 10/10/2012, 02:48 pm   #6
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I dropped him. I actually liked Ben. He screwed up a lot but his heart was usually in the right place. Yes, some of his decisions got some people killed. But some of Lee's decisions have gotten people killed too, if you think about it. But I dropped him because he begged me to. He was full of guilt and wanted a chance to redeem himself and help the group. I hated to do it but the guy begged me.
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Old 10/10/2012, 02:55 pm   #7
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I saved him.

There's a lot of things I'll forgive if you own up to them and show remorse, and Ben did just that. I really like Ben as a character, and I was happy to have the choice to spare his life.

...Which probably means he won't have a major role in Episode 5 and will be killed by a cop-out, but >_>
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Old 10/10/2012, 02:58 pm   #8
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No, I saved him...and agree with everything you listed ...
But I could not let him die, he is part of my group, and when he asked me to loose him I realized he was very sorry, he did not deserve to die because he missed.
But the main reason for me,I would feel horrible if I killed that Carley died protecting,!, I would kill him if it were not for that,my revenge now just comes down to Lilly.
but l still hate him.
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Old 10/10/2012, 03:06 pm   #9
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I dropped him, and I'm still traumatized...dear god. He hits the bottom, and I thought the fall killed him, but it only broke his legs. He screamed as the walkers tore into him...Jesus, is it really possible for him to LIVE?

I think I have to quote Lee on this one. "It wasn't a choice. It was just something I did, I don't know why." I'll definately be saving him whenever I go back through the Episode, but I've stuck with my choices up til now and will continue to do so. He was a major fuck up, but he didn't deserve to die like that. Especially not after he took responsibility for his actions. But even he said I should let him go, which is probably what made me actually do it in the end. RIP Ben.

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Old 10/10/2012, 03:12 pm   #10
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I didn't even want to shoot the zombie off of him when it grabbed him.

All the reasons everyone listed already were reasons I dropped him. The biggest reason was that he had put Clementine in danger multiple times, and especially when he ran away from her on the street in the zombie mob. IRL I would have killed that sonovabitch the second I had a chance.
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Old 10/10/2012, 03:17 pm   #11
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Did you drop Ben? Why or why not did you drop him?

I personally dropped him for multiple reasons.
I dropped him for all the same reasons as well.

Did you notice that he changed his story too? No mention of trying to save his friend that the bandits held. This time it was to protect the group.
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Old 10/10/2012, 03:22 pm   #12
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[QUOTE=Motordead;691959]Did you drop Ben? Why or why not did you drop him?

I personally dropped him for multiple reasons.

1. He did give food to the bandits and forced us out of the camp.
2. Didn't fess up and got Carley/Doug killed
3. Because of this Duck got bit and caused Katjaa and Duck to both die.
4. Left Clem to die.
5. Let Clem leave the house when he should of been watching her!!!!
6. Clem gets back to house, you would think he would watch her right? "Uhh shes in the backyard playing" FUCKING REALLY?!
7. Took the hatchet from the door that was blocking the walkers.
8. Had to tell Kenny right than and there about everything. Time we could have used to all escape.

You make it seem like he was such a bad guy.

1. He gave food to the bandits in order to appease them. The bandits could have simply barged in and shot up the place.
2. Would you have been able to fess up when some crazy broad is waving a gun in your face? I didn't think so.
3. If you really want to dissect it, it was Lee's fault for picking up Ben in the first place.
4. Kenny did the same thing with Shane.
5. If he didn't, who knows how the confrontation with Molly would have ended, which means, no assistance, no battery, ad who knows who would have died without her. So allowing her to leave, inevitably, saved *your* life.
6. Did you notice the gate there? And the high fence? He knew Clem was an intelligent kid and wouldn't be taken by surprise. Besides, um... she found the boat?
7. He was only trying to help.
8. I see nothing wrong with that. Who knows? It could have given Kenny the angry adrenaline he needed to bust the door open. Besides, um.. Not sure about you, but sometimes when I see an opportunity to say something I've bottled up for quite some time, I kinda have to take it? It's human nature dude.

For the record, I didn't drop him, nor did I even entertain the thought. He seemed sincere in his remorse. Which I love to see you overlook.
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Old 10/10/2012, 03:22 pm   #13
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Oh how I hate Ben, I really really don't like him.
But I'm just not that kind of guy. No matter how much I don't like someone, I won't let them get killed if I can save them. Especially not in the friggin Zombie Apocalypse, we have to hold on the little humanity that's left or we might as well become the St.John Brothers.
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Old 10/10/2012, 03:23 pm   #14
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Of course, he's young and stupid, but i just couldn't drop him. Yep, he's constant nuisance and threat to the group, but yara-yara he's a human. If there's a chance of saving him, i'll be trying it futher more.
Maby he became someone capable of something in the future.

P.S. On my 2nd playthrough i'll make him "fly". But ma 1st one is for ma personal choices.

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Old 10/10/2012, 03:24 pm   #15
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Oh how I hate Ben, I really really don't like him.
But I'm just not that kind of guy. No matter how much I don't like someone, I won't let them get killed if I can save them. Especially not in the friggin Zombie Apocalypse, we have to hold on the little humanity that's left or we might as well become the St.John Brothers.
They weren't 100% evil. They would have allowed them to leave, and What's his name would have died anyway.
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Old 10/10/2012, 03:31 pm   #16
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Ben wasn't a terrible kid, he's young and stupid. He fessed up about the supplies, getting Kat and Duck killed, putting everyone in danger, and he genuinely felt like SHIT about it. Dropping him was horrific, and he certainly didn't deserve to die like that. He admitted he was wrong, and was willing to die for everyone else in the group. At the end (or what he thought was the end, depening on what you did) he put the entire group ahead of himself. That's starting down the path of redemption, and if Lee can be redeemed for murdering a senator in a fit of rage, why can't Ben for doing what he thought was right?
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Old 10/10/2012, 03:31 pm   #17
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Anyways, I let him live.


Guys, honestly. Ben is trying to do what's best, but he still is an idiot, sure. But, look. Ben is just a teenager. Ben only begged because his guilt was eating him, and Kenny hated his guts. As someone above me said how he was willing to die for his mistakes, it takes a real man to do something like that.

Even after you save him, he says he wants to make it up to you, if you take him with you to save Clementine.
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Old 10/10/2012, 03:35 pm   #18
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It was an easy decision to drop him. Clementine has more courage and intelligence then Ben ever will, and she is quite a bit younger than him.
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Old 10/10/2012, 03:40 pm   #19
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It was an easy decision to drop him. Clementine has more courage and intelligence then Ben ever will, and she is quite a bit younger than him.
Then Ben *ever* will?

Ummmmm... Sorry. Wrong. Where I come from, here on Earth, it takes courage to face your death without begging for your life. It takes MUCH courage to tell someone to abandon you when you can already nearly feel your guts getting torn out while you're still alive.

Please rethink that statement and try again.
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Old 10/10/2012, 03:42 pm   #20
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I hate him but I saved him, lol. But if it were yesterday when Carley die because of him, I would be still mad and I would have drop him.

BTW, I don´t know why later Kenny didn´t wanted to help me, maybe last choice save problems?
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