[SPOILERS]The Walking Dead Episode 4 REVIEW Thread

[Smiley728]

I don't think anybody realized the fact that, TellTale confirmed episodes 6-10, they are going to make a complete Season 2.

Therefore there has to be SOME sort of way that Lee doesn't die.

[SickBoy2212]

at first i though the episode wasn't as good as 2 and 3, but the more it went, i started enjoying the character of Molly, whom i hope we may see in episode 5 maybe.

and then the ending... the ending itself made it for me, Lee getting bit, gathering the folks who will want to follow me (everyone but Ben, that guy couldn't help an old man to cross a street) and i'm gonna go kill whomever took Clementine... then i guess she'll shoot me and go off with the rest, hopefully they do a better job watching her than they're currently doing though...

anyhow i digress, i really love the episode and i can NOT wait for the finale one.

[Pellet]

great episode.... does any1 know what happens if you leave clementine at the house without a gun?

[walkerbait00]

great episode i think it is my favorite,i really hope lee doesn't die maybe when the walker bit him clams hat was in the way and he didn't really bite him and i want molly to stay in the group but i guess we will see in episode 5 maybe she will come back anyway this is the best episode great work Gary whitta you did an awesome job cant wait for episode 5

[Abel]

Originally Posted by Smiley728

I don't think anybody realized the fact that, TellTale confirmed episodes 6-10, they are going to make a complete Season 2.

Therefore there has to be SOME sort of way that Lee doesn't die.

They never said ep 6-10. Its a second season of TWD, there is no need for any of the current characters for that.

[zivi7]

Originally Posted by zivi7

This will probably drown in the flood of responses, but after all the praise about the choices I wanted to point out some negative things of the implementation I noticed, mainly in the school.

There seems to be no apparant entry point for the walkers in front of the room with the medical supplies, they seem to just come out of nowhere after you closed the main entrance with the hatchet.

The first time you make it back from the garage only with the help of Molly. When you go back there to get the tape from the Doc suddenly this doesn't matter, there's a just a loading screen and you are back in the school.

After watching the second video Lee tells Christa and Vernon he'd watch the third one while they go ahead. But the game puts you in front of the two old videos. I ended up watching both old tapes again because I couldn't be sure which one was the third one now. It would have been so much better if the next screen would have been Lee at the camcorder with just the third tape as option there. THEN he could have put this third tape next to the others on the desk in case the player wants to watch one of them again.

Two more things I forgot:

When walking past the main entrance with the horde of walkers trying to get in, the stereo mix seems weird: there are many walker noises coming from the left and some coming from the right, while obviously there are only walkers on the left side of the screen.

When entering the school, in the first room (where Ben will try to open the Armory) you can take your time to read the Crawford papers and the map. When you are done reading, you just click again to close the view. But when you leave the room and go in the hallway, this isn't the case anymore with the big banner about the Crawford rules. Instead, when trying to read them, this view will disappear after a few seconds. As a non native speaker I had to click the banner at least three times to read all the rules.

[RAnthonyMahan]

All right, my thoughts. I've always had a rule to myself that Telltale's fourth episode is always the best, and so far it looks like the same rule is with The Walking Dead. I'm really impressed by how they always seem to make each new episode more depressing than the last. Even though I had Lee being bitten spoiled for me in advance, I still ended up shocked when it happened.

Also, now that we're closer to the end and it's easier to pull off branching paths...choices that actually matter! Part of why I was one of the few people to save Ben was because I thought "Whatever, the outcome will be the same either way." Needless to say, I was pretty surprised when I found out you can actually kill him. I also find the fact that you can have six different parties for the finale pretty interesting. I wonder how different the end will be depending on who's with you. I somehow ended up with everybody, but I bet the episode will be a lot more somber if it's just Lee and Kenny, or even worse, Lee alone.

I do have a few complaints, though. First of all, Chuck got killed off way too fast. It seems that, like Mark, he existed solely to pad the body count. You could argue Telltale's trying to make some kind of point here (especially with Vernon's lines about death becoming routine), but it still feels kind of...eh to me.

In fact, it seems like the game in general is moving too fast. Of the huge cast we met in Episode 1, Clem and Kenny are the only characters left. (Maybe not even Kenny, if you kicked him out of the group.) Those early episodes feel like ancient history now. Granted, this was probably the point. Part of The Walking Dead's charm is the huge timeframe it takes place over, and how things always change (but never for the better). Telltale has to convey that same feeling but in a much smaller space, so I guess the story has to be fast as a consequence.

Also, the FPS segments are a pain in the ass. There's no crosshair or cursor, so it's hard to tell exactly where you're aiming, which is especially infuriating since you have to shoot the walkers in the head. It's strangely satisfying when you do them right, though. Now I wonder if the Telltale Tool could handle a full FPS game...

Anyway, overall, great episode. Eagerly looking forward to the finale.

[KCohere]

Is anyone else depressed now? When I found out Lee was bitten, I felt kind of numb. I dont know if I was emotionally drained or what. Now that it's settled in, I just feel so down. Chuck dead, Clem kidnapped, Lee bitten and dying, Ben suicidal, Kenny continuing to be an a-hole to me. Ive never enjoyed a game so much that made me feel so bad, lol.

[miesman81]

Originally Posted by Natalie1213

Also, just wanted to say something that I was just thinking about. I've always hated Lilly so much, but I feel like a small part of me liked her. I actually miss her a lot. Missing a character that you've always loathed? Or that you thought you did? None other than TTG has done this for me before.
I miss Lilly, Katjaa and Duck so much. And don't even get me started on Carley. ): I miss the original cast so much, yet having this new cast just makes me remember and treasure the old cast even more, and makes me realize that even if I hated some characters, I actually have a part of me that liked them. Anyone else feeling like this as well? I can't say I dislike any character aside from Ben, whom I did feel sympathy for when he begged me to let go.
No other game has done this for me. Terrific job. I've bought the Season Pass, but I definitely will buy the disc when it comes out because I just love it so much.

how can you MISS a computer game character... seriously.. some people just are over reacting on this... i know this game is good and the story too, probably the best i've played so far.. but please.. don't say miss game characters..


also chuck... nice guy, i guess ... but some people react so emotionally.. he's just been there maybe 2 hours in the game to find out he's dead.. we didn't get the chance to know him because he hardly talks about anything..

[KCohere]

Originally Posted by miesman81

how can you MISS a computer game character... seriously.. some people just are over reacting on this... i know this game is good and the story too, probably the best i've played so far.. but please.. don't say miss game characters..


also chuck... nice guy, i guess ... but some people react so emotionally.. he's just been there maybe 2 hours in the game to find out he's dead.. we didn't get the chance to know him because he hardly talks about anything..

If you can miss TV characters or book characters or movie characters, you can miss game characters. What's the difference?

[WalkingDead]

why lee was bitten !? this doesn't make sense, he have a child to take care and she is like a daughter to him!!
I don't know if I have more interest in playing the rest of the game.

[mukhlisz]

honestly, i feel that Lee's death will make an awesome finale. depressing yes but it will be memorable.

Mass Effect tried doing the same thing but Reaper Boy revelation just made people mad at the ending. don't think TTG will be making the same blunder..

btw, I really like the "suicide mission" vibe from the episode cliffhanger! it sure made me replay back the part to bring Ben along lol

[Gary Whitta]

Originally Posted by mukhlisz

honestly, i feel that Lee's death will make an awesome finale. depressing yes but it will be memorable.

Mass Effect tried doing the same thing but Reaper Boy revelation just made people mad at the ending. don't think TTG will be making the same blunder..

btw, I really like the "suicide mission" vibe from the episode cliffhanger! it sure made me replay back the part to bring Ben along lol

Yeah, having Ben come along is SURE to help.

[xdeathknightx]

I really have to say that I am very much in the middle about Lee getting bit and not in a good way. Maybe it's the emotions talking or maybe I am just this jaded horror fan. But when it was revealed he was bit my thoughts went between "oh fuck" and "well this is such a horror/zombie cliche".
It does its job that it got me thinking so of course it manages to do something but I am not sure that "Oh Lee is gonna die, I saw that coming from the moment he met clem in episode 1" is the right outcome of that.

I wasn't hoping for a fairytale Disney ending where everyone would survive (although I think a game with an option to save everyone, but you would have to go to great lengths to do it and maybe lose yourself in that pursuit would be pretty interesting), but I think I was hoping for Telltale to surprise me in this regard.

Sure they can probably still write a way that saves Lee and Clem in the end (without them being a team of walkers), but at that moment I felt it was a bit cheap and cliche.
Plus should Lee finally sacrifice himself in the next episode it would feel cheap to me. He's got nothing to lose because he's gonna turn unless they write in an escape so his death won't be as heroic to me.

People are probably gonna hate me for this but it really is something I am feeling, more disappointed that they went for the cliche than disappointed that Lee got bit.

Especially after a great episode full of surprises. It was a kick in the emotional balls but also an even harder kick in the "oh not this cliche again" balls. It just made me feel meh and not only because I feel bad about Lee.

[Hoqt]

I have a gut feeling that he is the one who kidnapped Clem. He is acting weird in the game and hardly talk. He alone was on the game screen for more than 3 seconds.

[macktep555]

i found some special , you can kill molly when ben let walker in
if you too fast than clamentime shoot walker 555 let try

[Red Panda]

Originally Posted by Hoqt

I have a gut feeling that he is the one who kidnapped Clem. He is acting weird in the game and hardly talk. He alone was on the game screen for more than 3 seconds.

Oh, you are NOT saying what I think you're saying.

[ItsMeArmani]

Originally Posted by xdeathknightx

I really have to say that I am very much in the middle about Lee getting bit and not in a good way. Maybe it's the emotions talking or maybe I am just this jaded horror fan. But when it was revealed he was bit my thoughts went between "oh fuck" and "well this is such a horror/zombie cliche".
It does its job that it got me thinking so of course it manages to do something but I am not sure that "Oh Lee is gonna die, I saw that coming from the moment he met clem in episode 1" is the right outcome of that.

I wasn't hoping for a fairytale Disney ending where everyone would survive (although I think a game with an option to save everyone, but you would have to go to great lengths to do it and maybe lose yourself in that pursuit would be pretty interesting), but I think I was hoping for Telltale to surprise me in this regard.

Sure they can probably still write a way that saves Lee and Clem in the end (without them being a team of walkers), but at that moment I felt it was a bit cheap and cliche.
Plus should Lee finally sacrifice himself in the next episode it would feel cheap to me. He's got nothing to lose because he's gonna turn unless they write in an escape so his death won't be as heroic to me.

People are probably gonna hate me for this but it really is something I am feeling, more disappointed that they went for the cliche than disappointed that Lee got bit.

Especially after a great episode full of surprises. It was a kick in the emotional balls but also an even harder kick in the "oh not this cliche again" balls. It just made me feel meh and not only because I feel bad about Lee.

lol it's your emotions talking, but thats the beauty of this game. It truly moves you and makes you care about the characters and situations. Telltale is doing great in my opinion.

[Red Panda]

What logic has this thread full of spoilers in the non-spoiler forum and not the spoiler forum?

[Shoopuffs]

I lost my save data again, so I just started episode 4 allowing all my choices before that to just be made for me. For the most part it looks like the choices I made from the last episode were the same aside from Kenny and Lee fighting, and Kenny killing Duck instead of Lee.

I was so upset when I saw that Lee was bitten. I kept hoping it was just a dream and he would wake up. I really hate the way they are taking the story. I mean I get it, it makes sense, but I just don't see why they have to do it that way. I don't want the story to end with Lee turning into a walker, or anything bad happening to Clem, and it just makes me so mad that with every episode it's like they are getting closer and closer to just killing everyone and saying "Well that's it folks." I realize the likelihood of them outliving this thing is slim, but still.

With every episode, I try my hardest to maintain Lee's humanity, I've never allowed anyone to die if I thought for even a moment I could save them. The whole thing with Ben was hard for me, just like the thing with Duck in episode 3. No matter how much I hate them and want them to die, when it's up to me to decide their fate, I just can't allow myself to be responsible. I wanted Duck to die from the beginning, and it surprised me how much I was upset by his passing. It was kinda like that with Ben. Even though everything that happened was his fault, even though Carley, Katjaa, and Duck all died because of him, when I was faced with the choice to let him die, I couldn't do it. No matter how much I hated him for what he did, I couldn't be the one to kill him.