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Barry Harry · 10/11/2012, 10:24 am

At the end when the group leaves the school from the Roof, Vernon says something about the train.. 'did you get here with that train' or something.

I wonder why he mentioned that.. you can't ask him about it later when your in the manor...

He might seen the zombie horde walking towards town or something (that you see from the Vernon hideout)..

Anyone have clue?

LokiHavok · 10/11/2012, 10:26 am

That sounds like the most plausible answer.
It's part of the same horde that was dealt with earlier when you met Omid & Christa.
Took them about a day (or so) on foot. Sounds about right. Cause IIRC at that time the group wasn't too far from Savannah when their path was blocked.

Barry Harry · 10/11/2012, 10:39 am

I just thought it was strange he mentioned it when it had no reason for the main storyline..

Maybe it was just a hint that he seen that zombie horde coming and thats why he and his group left town... (in the case of him not taking Clem).. Still wont explain why they left so quickly... since he wanted Clem to stay there with his group

FoxxyFox · 10/11/2012, 10:49 am

There is the option that Lee say that he must go back to Clementine and Vernon ask about her. How can he know her ? About the walkie-talkie guy ?

Vernon ask questions that you later when you gave an answer know that he is like a "rat".

bl4ckrider · 10/11/2012, 02:23 pm

It sounded like it had some significance.

My bet is that Vernon and his people took Clem on that train and went back. After all Vernon asks about his relative in Macon when he meets Lee.

But then again, I am always wrong when guessing what's next.

CapnJay · 10/11/2012, 04:12 pm

Someone should photoshop Vernon holding a walkie talkie saying "I'm not Vernon if thats what you think"

LadyJ · 10/11/2012, 04:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Barry Harry

Maybe it was just a hint that he seen that zombie horde coming and thats why he and his group left town...

I think this is the most likely.

BlankCanvasDJ · 10/11/2012, 04:17 pm

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Originally Posted by CapnJay

Someone should photoshop Vernon holding a walkie talkie saying "I'm not Vernon if thats what you think"

And then turning to his cancer survivor friends and saying, "I told him I'm not Vernon!" And then they all snicker behind their hands.

CapnJay · 10/11/2012, 04:28 pm

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Originally Posted by BlankCanvasDJ

And then turning to his cancer survivor friends and saying, "I told him I'm not Vernon!" And then they all snicker behind their hands.

In this Episode the old mute Black Cancer Survivor was played by Morgan Freeman.

Viner16 · 10/11/2012, 04:47 pm

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Originally Posted by CapnJay

In this Episode the old mute Black Cancer Survivor was played by Morgan Freeman.

Mah Gawds...

Thadeum · 10/11/2012, 05:03 pm

After replaying this part, in the escape from Crawford, Vernon asks :

Vernon: "You never came from the railroad, did you?"
Lee: "Yes, why?"
And then he says that obvious HINT:
"Nevermind. I can see sewers from here".

My theory is that Vernon and his group, at the end of the episode, went out to the railroad to escape the city, using the train we used!

And he does not say, "Nervermind, I can see sewers from here", but "Nervermind. I can see (...)". There is a dot, which means he does not want to you to know why he asked that, not that he was looking for another way (the railroad is not at Crawford where this sequence played anyway)

LadyJ · 10/11/2012, 05:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Thadeum

My theory is that Vernon and his group, at the end of the episode, went out to the railroad to escape the city, using the train we used!

Nah. I think he was alarmed at the number of walkers in the horde that was following the train headed in their direction and decided to pack up his peeps and gtfo.

Rock114 · 10/11/2012, 05:23 pm

If you remember, right at the end when the walkie man talks to Lee the group sees a huge amount of walkers shuffling by on the streets above. That's probably the herd from Episode 3 finally hitting town. I can't think of any other reason Vernon would have mentioned the tracks at that moment in the tower if it wasn't for a giant horde of walkers heading our way.

Thadeum · 10/11/2012, 05:23 pm

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Originally Posted by LadyJ

Nah. I think he was alarmed at the number of walkers in the horde that was following the train headed in their direction and decided to pack up his peeps and gtfo.

I think the opposite, that it is not really plausible. A long distance separates the town from walkers where you left them behind, and there is very few chance this guy saw the railroad from above. Also, there are a lot of walkers already infesting the city. It does not really change their situation.

You should also remember that one of the people in Vernon's group , an old woman, seemed really sick, and could'n't stand up. A train is a perfect way for them to travel injured people.

Another guy in the group said he was from Macon, if you played it by telling them that you did not come from here (Lee says he is from Macon). They might have headed back for whatever are their reasons.

And obviously Vernon's group does not have Clem. They were not the one playing with the talkie-walkie, and there is no way Vernon is a kidnapper.

LadyJ · 10/11/2012, 05:37 pm

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I think the opposite, that it is not really plausible. A long distance separates the town from walkers where you left them behind, and there is very few chance this guy saw the railroad from above. Also, there are a lot of walkers already infesting the city. It does not really change their situation.

Well, aside from the fact that I'm fine with agreeing to disagree, I still disagree. In TWD universe, a herd is formulated by straggling walkers so walkers in the city would have tagged themselves along with the horde coming from the railroad tracks. Which would have made an even larger herd of them. Large enough to bridge the distance between what was already in the town and what was coming to the town. PLUS we now have all the walkers from Crawford who are probably loose now that the group has left. Ample opportunity for them to merge and I'm guessing Vernon saw it but didn't want to alert the rest of them.

I DO agree about the train being a good way to transport the ill but I still don't think that's what they did...or why.

Zeruis · 10/11/2012, 07:42 pm

Pretty sure he found the herd. He might've thought that the town was in danger, got his people, and went on his way to get out of Savannah.

Tommyo3000 · 10/11/2012, 08:51 pm

Hm do you think back in episode 3 choosing whether to knock over the thing thats starts the fire on the ground when the huge horde of walkers are walking through has an affect on how many walkers are in savannah? If that makes sense.

Phoenix VII · 10/11/2012, 09:22 pm

We'll see in the next episode.

At this point, I'm suspecting that Vernon did see the herd since we see the herd arriving in the next morning, but I'm hoping he didn't and just saw the train, because if he saw the herd but didn't warn us then he's instantly eligible for a #1 Jerk of Ep. 4 Award especially since he's a doctor.

NeonBlade · 10/11/2012, 10:03 pm

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Hm do you think back in episode 3 choosing whether to knock over the thing thats starts the fire on the ground when the huge horde of walkers are walking through has an affect on how many walkers are in savannah? If that makes sense.

I hope so. I kicked down the torch, but the fire seemed to not affect them at all. Hopefully if you kicked the torch down, less Zombies appear and those that do make it through are charred and what remains of their body is badly damaged making them slow-er.

Boomboomown · 10/11/2012, 11:36 pm

I'm pretty sure he asked in order to find a way for his group out of the city. It's obvious he isn't the man on the radio like almost everyone thinks... That seems like the only logical reason for him asking about the train since he knew they were new in town and probably wanted to know how they got there.

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10/11/2012, 10:24 am	#1
Barry Harry Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 3	Vernon mentioning the train At the end when the group leaves the school from the Roof, Vernon says something about the train.. 'did you get here with that train' or something. I wonder why he mentioned that.. you can't ask him about it later when your in the manor... He might seen the zombie horde walking towards town or something (that you see from the Vernon hideout).. Anyone have clue?

10/11/2012, 10:26 am	#2
LokiHavok Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 231	That sounds like the most plausible answer. It's part of the same horde that was dealt with earlier when you met Omid & Christa. Took them about a day (or so) on foot. Sounds about right. Cause IIRC at that time the group wasn't too far from Savannah when their path was blocked.

10/11/2012, 10:39 am	#3
Barry Harry Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 3	I just thought it was strange he mentioned it when it had no reason for the main storyline.. Maybe it was just a hint that he seen that zombie horde coming and thats why he and his group left town... (in the case of him not taking Clem).. Still wont explain why they left so quickly... since he wanted Clem to stay there with his group

10/11/2012, 10:49 am	#4
FoxxyFox 100% Foxxyfied Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 189	There is the option that Lee say that he must go back to Clementine and Vernon ask about her. How can he know her ? About the walkie-talkie guy ? Vernon ask questions that you later when you gave an answer know that he is like a "rat".

10/11/2012, 02:23 pm	#5
bl4ckrider Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 45	It sounded like it had some significance. My bet is that Vernon and his people took Clem on that train and went back. After all Vernon asks about his relative in Macon when he meets Lee. But then again, I am always wrong when guessing what's next.

10/11/2012, 05:03 pm	#11
Thadeum Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 134	After replaying this part, in the escape from Crawford, Vernon asks : Vernon: "You never came from the railroad, did you?" Lee: "Yes, why?" And then he says that obvious HINT: "Nevermind. I can see sewers from here". My theory is that Vernon and his group, at the end of the episode, went out to the railroad to escape the city, using the train we used! And he does not say, "Nervermind, I can see sewers from here", but "Nervermind. I can see (...)". There is a dot, which means he does not want to you to know why he asked that, not that he was looking for another way (the railroad is not at Crawford where this sequence played anyway)

10/11/2012, 05:23 pm	#13
Rock114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: U.S. of A. Posts: 1,712	If you remember, right at the end when the walkie man talks to Lee the group sees a huge amount of walkers shuffling by on the streets above. That's probably the herd from Episode 3 finally hitting town. I can't think of any other reason Vernon would have mentioned the tracks at that moment in the tower if it wasn't for a giant horde of walkers heading our way.

10/11/2012, 07:42 pm	#16
Zeruis Mundy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,945	Pretty sure he found the herd. He might've thought that the town was in danger, got his people, and went on his way to get out of Savannah.

10/11/2012, 08:51 pm	#17
Tommyo3000 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 18	Hm do you think back in episode 3 choosing whether to knock over the thing thats starts the fire on the ground when the huge horde of walkers are walking through has an affect on how many walkers are in savannah? If that makes sense.

10/11/2012, 09:22 pm	#18
Phoenix VII Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 255	We'll see in the next episode. At this point, I'm suspecting that Vernon did see the herd since we see the herd arriving in the next morning, but I'm hoping he didn't and just saw the train, because if he saw the herd but didn't warn us then he's instantly eligible for a #1 Jerk of Ep. 4 Award especially since he's a doctor.

10/11/2012, 11:36 pm	#20
Boomboomown Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 3	I'm pretty sure he asked in order to find a way for his group out of the city. It's obvious he isn't the man on the radio like almost everyone thinks... That seems like the only logical reason for him asking about the train since he knew they were new in town and probably wanted to know how they got there.