Team Lily to the end (appreciation thread)

[kierano87]

Just think at the start... She was leading to group before Team lee entered. Lily decided to let lee's team join the group and although it was more mouths to feed she still hung by it.
You enter another team... you play by there rules.

[dukeleto]

Originally Posted by Web Head

Lilly fuckin' killed Carley unmercifully although she was trustworthy and LILLY KNEW IT WASN'T HER. TEAM LEE TO THE END **10 nuclear bombs explode as an expression of my madness**

Stop trying to avoid direction questions at you because you knew Carley didn't deserve to die and yet you know that by justifying her lack of presence in Episode 2, whatever, your support in Lilly is ridiculous.

Hello,
I respect your angle but PLEASE don't forget what she had been through.

I know Lilly IS a murderer and I don't try to reason her behaviour but,
1)She was "so sure" that someone was helping the bandits: and it was True.
2)She was just too depressed and angry with that traitor issue, as it caused a little boy to get bitten, and the lost of the motor inn: and it was True.
3)She ran away, but "I think" she was too ashamed for what she did to continue with the group and maybe she thought it won't be good to be with them neighter for them nor herself: and I think it was True.
4)No matter what, she were always strong and she were in a good harmony with others until she lost her father: and it is True.
5) So, I think she is not a cruel person but she has a very dramatic doom: and it is True for me.

On the other hand, there is a Kenny who is drinking? I can understand his bad feelings after he saw that boy in the attic and I can understand he is drinking because of his grief, but what about Clem? How can he turn his eyes away from her? If he has completely lost his hope for survival; what is he doing along them?
If I went somewhere with someone else, and tragically if we got seperated with them when their little girl remained with my side; I'd look after her to the death. Lee might be away, Lee might get lost or he might disappear by a sever hole, and what should Kenny do after him? His first thing to do after they came back to their shelter was drinking! Sorry, but I can't forgive this.
He caused Clem to get lost, but even so he continued reprove Lee severely about the boat, about how they will die etc etc...
It was so selfish. Everyone else were in the same situation there and even Christa didn't act like him.
"and probably assumed Clem wasnt so stupid as to wander off outside..." you are saying.
Man, you shouldn't suppose,guess -or whatever- a child that he/she might do or not. You should keep your eyes on them. As always Lee were trying to do. A child is a child, nothing more.

I'm talking about Kenny, because he is the main reason of all these. He caused this group to fall apart. He made a breaking point. And contrary to Lilly, he made this kind of things severely!(I'm sure everybody will see more of him on the last episode.)
Man, what kind of a man can still walk around of a person after he has killed his/her father deliberately without no hesitation? Here we talk about company, not walking around though. They could wait and take care of the situation if Larry ever tries to turn. If Larry was about to turn, I'm sure Lilly should have been more reasonable and more brave with the result. But unfortunately Kenny has no brain!

You are right with your angle at certain points. But there is something in the world entitle : Respect. Respect to other people's feelings&sufferings.
On Walking Dead mini series-on tv, or comics, this kind of situations occured. But have you ever seen a Rick who grabs a rock and throws on Amy's brain in front of her sister Andrea?
Probably not.

Well, I prefer a confused Lilly than a shifty Kenny with me as a companion. Or I prefer her to a "good girl" Carley who never assumed responsibility when though decisions are being made. I loved her too, and I'm not saying she deserved it. But this is WD universe man, You can not just push someone -with a gun- 's buttons (hence if she is half mentally ill because of her father's death) freely by yelling at her with insults. I'm trying to keep my sympathies on Lilly, cause she did nothing unstable or bad before her unfortunate lost. She was always so reasonable and understanding to Lee, even though he and his group have joined and ruined her authority on her own group very badly.
Please try to see the big picture, but not judge her with a single (and I admit, it was a terrible) mistake.
I'm not only a big fan of Lilly, but I've already doing fanart promoting her. Here, take it if you can ;P
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http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/...ad.php?t=38875

I really respect for those bad feelings about Lilly my friend, but please all of you who hates her, try to understand her "situation".
All the best with NO TIME LEFT next week...

[thestalkinghead]

lilly cracked and murdered someone and that is all her fault (you can't blame murder on someone else that made you depressed), she was not a good leader (bad at rationing food, never listens) and there is no evidence she ever did anything to help the group and she was only the "leader" because larrys forceful character made her the leader, but kenny actually takes control and does things to help the group (organises people at the pharmacy and goes looking for supplies) i would rather have a man that actually gets things done by my side rather than an overemotional daddy's girl

[dukeleto]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

lilly cracked and murdered someone and that is all her fault (you can't blame murder on someone else that made you depressed), she was not a good leader (bad at rationing food, never listens) and there is no evidence she ever did anything to help the group...

Man, she is at least capable of shooting zombies with a gun.
And Kenny cares for other people? I don't ever think so.

You may prefer him than an overemotional daddy's girl side of you of course. But beware and don't ever forget, he can SUDDENLY leave you right inside an ambush unnecessarly even though he could have been helpful when you go in some store for supplies.
What a bro to watch your back!

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by dukeleto

Man, she is at least capable of shooting zombies with a gun.
And Kenny cares for other people? I don't ever think so.

You may prefer him than an overemotional daddy's girl side of you of course. But beware and don't ever forget, he can SUDDENLY leave you right inside an ambush unnecessarly even though he could have been helpful when you go in some store for supplies.
What a bro to watch your back!

don't forget that lilly would have killed you if she didn't have a soft spot for Clementine and she will abandon you and Clementine at the side of the road, and i didn't say Kenny cares about other people i said he helps other people, who needs a leader that just sits in her room or on top of the RV all day? you need a leader that is willing to make hard decisions and get things done

[dukeleto]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

don't forget that lilly would have killed you if she didn't have a soft spot for Clementine and she will abandon you and Clementine at the side of the road, and i didn't say Kenny cares about other people i said he helps other people, who needs a leader that just sits in her room or on top of the RV all day? you need a leader that is willing to make hard decisions and get things done

About Lilly, she was always good at me and I never felt that she may stab me in the back? Maybe, these are all about the conversations we've chosen when we were talking to people. I never catch any single negative word from her about Lee.


Who says that there was a need for "a leader" when Lee was there?
He is doing AALLL the stuff and I me myself have no intensions for seeking another leader. Who gave Kenny that title? What did he do to earn it? During the whole game, driving that RV I guess.

Man, he is useless as junk, believe me. He also mentioned himself several times: He messed everything up. Yes, this is the only one thing that he is right.

Anyway, I don't knowwhat you do think while playing but I'm not forgetting that I'm playing this game, not Kenny

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by dukeleto

About Lilly, she was always good at me and I never felt that she may stab me in the back? Maybe, these are all about the conversations we've chosen when we were talking to people. I never catch any single negative word from her about Lee.


Who says that there was a need for "a leader" when Lee was there?
He is doing AALLL the stuff and I me myself have no intensions for seeking another leader. Who gave Kenny that title? What did he do to earn it? During the whole game, driving that RV I guess.

Man, he is useless as junk, believe me. He also mentioned himself several times: He messed everything up. Yes, this is the only one thing that he is right.

Anyway, I don't know you but I'm not forgetting that I'm playing this game, not Kenny

i would say there was need for a leader, nobody gave kenny a title but i would have voted him as leader if that ever came up, lilly is useless she does nothing but complain and kill innocent people, whereas kenny spent the whole time gathering supplies and fixing the RV and he argued with lilly because he believed she was a detriment to the group and i agree

[Mornai]

Lilly became mentally unstable and murdered someone in cold blood with no evidence, merely using a presumption to back her actions(which were probably fueled by personal dislike more than anything else).

EDIT: I am obviously not very smart today, i thought i was posting in the Kenny thread >.<

That's what i get for not getting much sleep and having multiple threads open at once...

[Kiel555]

Try to remember that in some playthroughs Lee did not help Kenny murder Lilly's father in the ep 2 meat locker. After this event, Kenny's true colors are revealed and a strong alliance/bond is developed with Lilly.

The reason Lilly has an appreciation thread is because it is possible to develope a great relationship and friendship with Lilly when you did not help murder Larry and cease undermining Lilly as leader of the group with Kenny.

Granted, things turned out differently when you did help muderer Lilly's father. Actions do have consequences sometimes negative ones at that. It may be percieved as stubborn Lilly support but many of us simply did not experience the Lilly you describe. Some people even say great things about Kenny which is strange to me since he has left me to die on multiple occasions. Just different games.

In my game, Lilly was a beloved friend and did her best to keep the group safe. She is sorely missed and would be welcomed back if she decided to return. Lilly was a tough person trying to keep a lot of people safe under extreemly difficult circumstances but everone has their breaking point. Kenny took her to that breaking point and Ben pushed her over the cliff. Those two, primarily Kenny, are the ones to blame for everything that happened afterwards. Now that those two are gone from my group, I think Lilly would do just fine with us other than still being in a ZA of course .

Of course none of this is directed at Mornai. Get some rest my friend.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by Kiel555

Try to remember that in some playthroughs Lee did not help Kenny murder Lilly's father in the ep 2 meat locker. After this event, Kenny's true colors are revealed and a strong alliance/bond is developed with Lilly.

The reason Lilly has an appreciation thread is because it is possible to develope a great relationship and friendship with Lilly when you did not help murder Larry and cease undermining Lilly as leader of the group with Kenny.

Granted, things turned out differently when you did help muderer Lilly's father. Actions do have consequences sometimes negative ones at that. It may be percieved as stubborn Lilly support but many of us simply did not experience the Lilly you describe. Some people even say great things about Kenny which is strange to me since he has left me to die on multiple occasions. Just different games.

In my game, Lilly was a beloved friend and did her best to keep the group safe. She is sorely missed and would be welcomed back if she decided to return. Lilly was a tough person trying to keep a lot of people safe under extreemly difficult circumstances but everone has their breaking point. Kenny took her to that breaking point and Ben pushed her over the cliff. Those two, primarily Kenny, are the ones to blame for everything that happened afterwards. Now that those two are gone from my group, I think Lilly would do just fine with us other than still being in a ZA of course .

Of course none of this is directed at Mornai. Get some rest my friend.

i was talking about lilly in all kinds of playthroughs she never does anything i would consider to have any value to the group and she never demonstrates any leadership qualities , i have seen the best and worst of lilly and kenny, and kenny's best is better than lilly's and lilly's worst is worse than kennys

[dukeleto]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

i was talking about lilly in all kinds of playthroughs she never does anything i would consider to have any value to the group and she never demonstrates any leadership qualities , i have seen the best and worst of lilly and kenny, and kenny's best is better than lilly's and lilly's worst is worse than kennys

No matter which face of the characters you met, I know only one thing:

Lilly was always looking into my eyes and my mouth when a tough decision was meant to be made, but Kenny, such irrilevant and irresponsible bastard always shouted at people first.

Well, Kenny can kiss my a.., bro. He managed to come with Lee to the season finale, but this time I swear to God, I'll prepare him a surprise and I won't lose this very last chance

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by dukeleto

No matter which face of the characters you met, I know only one thing:

Lilly was always looking into my eyes and my mouth when a tough decision was meant to be made, but Kenny, such irrilevant and irresponsible bastard always shouted at people first.

Well, Kenny can kiss my a.., bro. He managed to come with Lee to the season finale, but this time I swear to God, I'll prepare him a surprise and I won't lose this very last chance

i really can't translate what the is supposed to mean

[dukeleto]

"Lilly was always looking into my eyes and my mouth when a tough decision was meant to be made, but Kenny, such irrilevant and irresponsible bastard always shouted at people first."

means:
When it comes decision time;
Lilly was always waiting for the first words from Lee and she looked into Lee's eyes before she opened her mouth to talk.
Cause she had much respect to Lee's ideas.
But Kenny,
His first reactions was always so loud. He was shouting, arguing etc... etc...

Boy, how old are you?
Or I should ask maybe, where are you from?

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by dukeleto

"Lilly was always looking into my eyes and my mouth when a tough decision was meant to be made, but Kenny, such irrilevant and irresponsible bastard always shouted at people first."

means:
When it comes decision time;
Lilly was always waiting a word from me and she looked into my eyes first.
Cause she has much respect to my ideas.
But Kenny,
His first reactions was always so loud. He was shouting, arguing etc... etc...

she may look in your eyes but she will never do anything you tell her and if you are anti lilly she will scream you down, why should lee be the centre of all decisions anyway, i may feel like Lee is the most important person in the universe but why should a guy that has a family think Lee is the centre of the universe?

Originally Posted by dukeleto

Boy, how old are you?
Or I should ask maybe, where are you from?

is that a quote? or did you just call me boy and ask my age? child, that can be considered rude to call someone boy, if you really want to know I'm 25 and from England

[dukeleto]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

she may look in your eyes but she will never do anything you tell her and if you are anti lilly she will scream you down, why should lee be the centre of all decisions anyway, i may feel like Lee is the most important person in the universe but why should a guy that has a family think Lee is the centre of the universe?



is that a quote? or did you just call me boy and ask my age? child, that can be considered rude to call someone boy, if you really want to know I'm 25 and from England

Hey, no need to get offended. If I caused any bad feelings, I'm trully sorry.

Anyway, I used those words after I took a look at your profile and I guess someone at your age should at least fill his location info.
Or shouldn't write like this:
"i really can't translate what the is supposed to mean "

But you are right, I don't have any right to call you in that way.
Trully sorry, again, this Kenny thing is itching my nerves

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by dukeleto

Hey, no need to get offended. If I caused any bad feelings, I'm trully sorry.

Anyway, I used those words after I took a look at your profile and I guess someone at your age should at least fill his location info.

But you are right, I don't have any right to call you that way.
Trully sorry, again, this Kenny thing is itching my nerves

it's cool i wasn't really offended and i guess i don't think it matters where i come from or my age so i didn't put it on my profile

and i wrote "the" instead of "that" by accident get over it

[dukeleto]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

it's cool i wasn't really offended and i guess i don't think it matters where i come from or my age so i didn't put it on my profile

Then we can be friends, right? Come here boy, a- ha!

CHEERS buddy! ))

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by dukeleto

Then we can be friends, right? Come here boy, a- ha!

CHEERS buddy! ))

yeah we can be friends

[dukeleto]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

yeah we can be friends

According to our new friendship, I can give you a secret:
That guy, Kenny, he really sucks.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by dukeleto

According to our new friendship, I can give you a secret:
That guy, Kenny, he really sucks.

Secret:
i don't really like lilly