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Old 11/17/2012, 11:29 am   #1161
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You can keep your "Larry was dead" speech, but I won't make it true. Not two months ago, not now, not ever. Larry wasn't dead yet, he might have died, but he could've survived also.
The way Kenny approached the situation was beyond horrible, not to mention it wasn't his place to approach it at all.
You tell us to imagine stuff, now you imagine that Clem is in danger and she needs your and Kenny's help, and he just refuses to help you.
Oh, wait, you don't have to imagine it! It happens in episode 4. Congratulations!
Kenny needed my Lee many times, and I helped him in most of them. Lilly needed me only this once, I helped her and he not only backstabbed us both, but he also had the insolence so blame me for it? Fuck Kenny!

In my playthrough I gave him the chance to leave with his family in the RV. His asnwer was "yeah so Lilly and Carley will stay with you, and who do I got? Ben?".
He wants to control people more than he cares about his family. Deny it as much as you want, but he actually enjoys giving orders.
For God's sake he wanted us to pack into that broken RV when he hadn't even repaired it. It was just that he had to complain, whine and do it his way.

The motel was a great place to be. Macon was close for supplies and had Ben told us about his deal with the bandits, we could've been prepared and taken them out.
There are bandits and evil people everywhere - Crowford, Woodbury, Atlanta... the St. John's farm... There are worse places to be than that Motor Inn. At least there we know the surrounding area and we know who we are dealing with.
I agree with you, Larry might have been alive. But is it really worth the risk? After what happened after his last heart attack and the stress he is under now, is it really worth gambling everyone's lives on him being alive? And sure Kenny killed(?) him in a gruesome and traumatising way but theres no other way to do it and they didnt have much time to decide anyway. They obviously reaminate quickly. Anyway it had to be Kenny's place to decide, it involves and affects everyone in the meatlocker. Its not like Lilly could do what needs to be done and you're Lee wasnt going to do the right thing.

And Kenny refused to help YOUR Lee because you obviously dont have the guts to do the smart thing, so you will probably get yourself and him killed, and because you gambled with his and his families lives on low odds. Also Lilly needed you're help once, and she then stole the RV and left ya to die. Nice one.

Kenny doesnt enjoy giving orders, he's just trying to make sure his family survive. I dont blame him for not wanting to be by himself and his family with only Ben for help. He doesnt want to control you but he does know they have a better chance with you and so he tries to convince you. And he obviously wasnt finished repairing it when the bandits attacked. If he actually had time it probably would have been in better shape.

And the Motel was a rubbish place to be. Loads of bandits camped right outside you're home. Macon was probably looted dry since they have been in the Motel for so long, the pharmacy was empty. And even if Ben had told you about their plan, you cant really get ready and just deal with that many bandits and then the walkers which were attracted by the gunfire. Its not even certain that they would have had enough ammo to deal with them. Also did you see how quickly their defenses fell to the bandits and how they swarmed in? Other places might not have huge groups of bandits outside you're base, furious at you for destroying their food supply. Other places might have friendly survivors or at least a safer place to settle down. Nope, the Motel sucked.
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Old 11/17/2012, 11:34 am   #1162
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I agree with you, Larry might have been alive. But is it really worth the risk? After what happened after his last heart attack and the stress he is under now, is it really worth gambling everyone's lives on him being alive? And sure Kenny killed(?) him in a gruesome and traumatising way but theres no other way to do it and they didnt have much time to decide anyway. They obviously reaminate quickly. Anyway it had to be Kenny's place to decide, it involves and affects everyone in the meatlocker. Its not like Lilly could do what needs to be done and you're Lee wasnt going to do the right thing.
I would like to add:
he still had consciousness on his first heart attack,I'm pretty sure he had a sharp chest pain.
now in the meatlocker; he probably had a heart failure, which made his heart stop.

he might had lived or not but who knows!
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Old 11/17/2012, 11:46 am   #1163
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Wrighty, my friend, I really don't want to argue this but,

MY LEE was doing a heart massage which you just mentioned my Lee wasnt going to do the right thing, when Kenny did his job.

And come on man, you sound like there is no other possiblity to deal with Larry at his very first seconds of his turning. I mean, I don't suppose he will jump as fast as a tiger to his first victim as soon as his eyes opened again as "dead".

If they were SURE that he was already dead, yes I was with you. They could take care of him with every God damn way.

These discussion is pointless as I said somewhere else on forums, that we are all playing different type of games. The thing is all our Kennies Lillies or Carleys are way too different from each other. These are all because of I didn't see Kenny by your way because I never met that guy.

And believe me, in my playthrough he was just a selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk.

And about that babbling I was mentioning was those nagging of him about "how they messed up" or "how will they die" or "how he doesn't want everyone on the boat" or bla bla bla bla...
You might not see these as babbling but for me, his EVERY sentence is nonesense. Last two episodes to me were like wandering around without caring a single word of him. And I'm sure I'll not listen of him on the finale eighter. (Don't ever think I wish him side of me Unfortunately I couldn't get rid of him, when I said "I'm going for Clem cause she is like a family to me", he insisted joining me. And whatever I said I couldn't persuade him not to come with me.)

All the best and good luck on NO TIME LEFT with your Kenny.
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Old 11/17/2012, 12:01 pm   #1164
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"selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk."

"he insisted joining me"

You call him selfish and shifty and unfaithful and he insists on going on a suicide mission to help you save Clem? What a selfish bastard!

Also the cop that attacked Lee in ep 1 and the teacher that attacked Kat in ep 2 both jumped up as fast as tigers to start biting, so its safe to assume Larry will again.

Good luck in ep 5 to you aswell
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Old 11/17/2012, 12:26 pm   #1165
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"selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk."

"he insisted joining me"

You call him selfish and shifty and unfaithful and he insists on going on a suicide mission to help you save Clem? What a selfish bastard!

Also the cop that attacked Lee in ep 1 and the teacher that attacked Kat in ep 2 both jumped up as fast as tigers to start biting, so its safe to assume Larry will again.

Good luck in ep 5 to you aswell
The cop was there lying for some time. God knows how long Lee was passed out.
And about Kat, if you turn your back on a possible turner- especially open your neck necessarily- you deserve that instant attack.

Man, there are many ways to keep someone away from you if you are not sure he is dead(also about to turn) or not. If you are scared to approach him to check if he is dead,I'm sure there are other ways. If it is necessary I would have heap those salt blocks on him- especially on his limbs- than busting his head in front of his daughter, just a simple idea.

My friend, Kenny decided (?) to come with me but this is not because he has a gentle heart. He is still a selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk.
He decided to came because I NEVER TREAT HIM AS HE DESERVED. I was always there for him, I tried to protect him and his family and I always did the dirty work for him.
But what did he do in exchange for? ? ?

My Lee's only mistake was disagreeing his decisions. And this was enough for him to ruin my life, leaving me behind on many occasions, leaving me to death under fatal danger. What a BRO.

You can ask me, "So, why did you treat him so gentle?". Then I can simply answer, "I did, cause I'm not like a guy as Kenny is."

So, it was my succues to have him on board but not because of Kenny's personality (IF THERE IS A SUCCESS IN THIS SITUATION. )

Take good care of Clem next week and if you ask me don't trust him while doing it.
Mark my word.

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Old 11/17/2012, 12:45 pm   #1166
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SPOILERS FOR TV SERIES SEASON 1-2: I mean, some say that the dead don't reanimate very quickly, like Amy from the TV Series. But remember Shane??? I agree with killing Larry.
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Old 11/17/2012, 12:46 pm   #1167
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if you told Kenny to go fuck himself he will leave without you. Lol and I took Ben with me so that five seater boat will now only have three people. (Christa, Omid, and Kenny himself.)
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Old 11/17/2012, 12:50 pm   #1168
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if you told Kenny to go fuck himself he will leave without you. Lol and I took Ben with me so that five seater boat will now only have three people. (Christa, Omid, and Kenny himself.)
Yeah, I know it now, but back then when I was first playing I've choosen being polite (as everytime as with Kenny) while refusing him.
Guy is a a selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk,
+++ PLUS +++
He doesn't see the big picture when he is not wanted

Man, guess what; I have whole group including Ben.
And I was desperately desiring going alone!!!
They just didn't let me be.

Ben + Kenny...
I'm doomed, man. I'm really fucked up!


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Old 11/17/2012, 01:11 pm   #1169
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The cop was there lying for some time. God knows how long Lee was passed out.
And about Kat, if you turn your back on a possible turner- especially open your neck necessarily- you deserve that instant attack.

Man, there are many ways to keep someone away from you if you are not sure he is dead(also about to turn) or not. If you are scared to approach him to check if he is dead,I'm sure there are other ways. If it is necessary I would have heap those salt blocks on him- especially on his limbs- than busting his head in front of his daughter, just a simple idea.

My friend, Kenny decided (?) to come with me but this is not because he has a gentle heart. He is still a selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk.
He decided to came because I NEVER TREAT HIM AS HE DESERVED. I was always there for him, I tried to protect him and his family and I always did the dirty work for him.
But what did he do in exchange for? ? ?

My Lee's only mistake was disagreeing his decisions. And this was enough for him to ruin my life, leaving me behind on many occasions, leaving me to death under fatal danger. What a BRO.

You can ask me, "So, why did you treat him so gentle?". Then I can simply answer, "I did, cause I'm not like a guy as Kenny is."

So, it was my succues to have him on board but not because of Kenny's personality (IF THERE IS A SUCCESS IN THIS SITUATION. )

Take good care of Clem next week and if you ask me don't trust him while doing it.
Mark my word.
Kat didnt know that dead people reaminate and anyway it shows that people reaminate quickly and jump up.

Larry was a very strong man, so you would have to heap ALOT of heavy salt licks on him and that would have taken alot of time. You gotta destroy the brain...

And Kenny came with you on a suicide mission to save Clem because you never treated him as he deserved? That makes absolutely no sense. He is obviously a better man than you give him credit for.

I would trust Kenny with my life and im sure Clem is in safe hands with him. I bet Lee's life on it :P
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SPOILERS FOR TV SERIES SEASON 1-2: I mean, some say that the dead don't reanimate very quickly, like Amy from the TV Series. But remember Shane??? I agree with killing Larry.
spoiler tags, remove spaces between the last "spoiler": [spoiler] put something here [ / spoiler]
if you remove them it'll appear like this: I mean, some say that the dead don't reanimate very quickly, like Amy from the TV Series. But remember Shane??? I agree with killing Larry.
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Old 11/17/2012, 01:20 pm   #1171
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Kat didnt know that dead people reaminate and anyway it shows that people reaminate quickly and jump up.

Larry was a very strong man, so you would have to heap ALOT of heavy salt licks on him and that would have taken alot of time. You gotta destroy the brain...

And Kenny came with you on a suicide mission to save Clem because you never treated him as he deserved? That makes absolutely no sense. He is obviously a better man than you give him credit for.

I would trust Kenny with my life and im sure Clem is in safe hands with him. I bet Lee's life on it :P
Then I'm afraid but your Lee is an "already" dead man.

Just play from the beginning when you finish the game, and not side with Kenny with his decisions.
I'm not talking about threatening him or trying to kick Duck outside etc etc... I'm talking about general manners- like rationing food, leaving some place or not leaving... Decision type things I'm talking about.

You will suddenly discover the real Kenny in tears.
Oh and, I'd like to add and no offense but,
really really really ".uck Kenny" (he is the MOST irritating man of this game as replies of this thread proves)
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Old 11/20/2012, 09:28 am   #1172
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I'm kinda concerned about the e5 trailer. It shows Kenny again. That's just for the players who did not tell him to go fuck himself right? I'm more than happy to tell Kenny to go fuck himself again but I'd rather just not see that bastard in my game.
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Wrighty, my friend, I really don't want to argue this but,

MY LEE was doing a heart massage which you just mentioned my Lee wasnt going to do the right thing, when Kenny did his job.

And come on man, you sound like there is no other possiblity to deal with Larry at his very first seconds of his turning. I mean, I don't suppose he will jump as fast as a tiger to his first victim as soon as his eyes opened again as "dead".

If they were SURE that he was already dead, yes I was with you. They could take care of him with every God damn way.

These discussion is pointless as I said somewhere else on forums, that we are all playing different type of games. The thing is all our Kennies Lillies or Carleys are way too different from each other. These are all because of I didn't see Kenny by your way because I never met that guy.

And believe me, in my playthrough he was just a selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk.

And about that babbling I was mentioning was those nagging of him about "how they messed up" or "how will they die" or "how he doesn't want everyone on the boat" or bla bla bla bla...
You might not see these as babbling but for me, his EVERY sentence is nonesense. Last two episodes to me were like wandering around without caring a single word of him. And I'm sure I'll not listen of him on the finale eighter. (Don't ever think I wish him side of me Unfortunately I couldn't get rid of him, when I said "I'm going for Clem cause she is like a family to me", he insisted joining me. And whatever I said I couldn't persuade him not to come with me.)

All the best and good luck on NO TIME LEFT with your Kenny.
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Kenny went against me in the meat locker and again when it came to stealing from the station wagon. I, Lilly and Clem told him it was wrong but he stole anyways. That fucker is to blame for everything! My only regret is that I missed him when I threw the statue head at him. That's right, I tried to kill that bastard before he tried to salt-lick me!
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Kenny went against me in the meat locker and again when it came to stealing from the station wagon. I, Lilly and Clem told him it was wrong but he stole anyways. That fucker is to blame for everything! My only regret is that I missed him when I threw the statue head at him. That's right, I tried to kill that bastard before he tried to salt-lick me!
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Kenny went against me in the meat locker and again when it came to stealing from the station wagon. I, Lilly and Clem told him it was wrong but he stole anyways. That fucker is to blame for everything! My only regret is that I missed him when I threw the statue head at him. That's right, I tried to kill that bastard before he tried to salt-lick me!
Same here! I'd have cut my own hand rather than suggest "Kenny should take care of Clem" when I had the option.
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This thread man... KENNY IS A FREAKIN' HERO!!!
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Old 11/21/2012, 11:35 am   #1178
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People said Kenny would show his true colours in ep 5 and he did. He showed everyone what kind of man he is: a goddamn hero.

RIP Kenny!
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Indeed Kenny is truly the secondary hero in this epic. Kenny is boss!
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Old 11/21/2012, 11:49 am   #1180
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The speech he gives about the people in the house that killed themselves was freakin' awesome. Say what you want about the man, I think that he's always had his head in the right place.
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