How did campman get to savannah?

[JesseC25]

Ok, so we know campman was in the woods by the motor inn, but what happened after the raid? He could have drove all the way to the railway, them what? Was he driving behind the train the entire time? Or was he secretly on the train?

He advised the group to get off the streets at the beginning of ep4, but how did he know this unless he was ahead of the group?

He knew about everything: saving Carley or Doug, taking Clem to the dairy, Clem eating meat, lee killing the brothers (or not), leaving Lilly on the road.. Was Clem telling him ALL of this?

Also, someone suggested before that kat never committed suicide, but she was shot by someone else. If campman was following the group, what if he was in the woods and shot kat? This would work whether Kenny was with her or not, Kenny could have been looking over at duck when he shot her. He hates her, because he called her "Kenny's stupid fucking wife".

Thoughts? I know questioning kats suicide is a big deal, but now that the truth behind radioman has been revealed, I am questioning everything.

[slimymeteor]

Interesting, but I think Kat definitely killed herself. Shortly before, she was saying, "I love our son more than life itself," so bringing Duck into the woods to kill him was more than she could handle. The stranger would need to be a crackshot to hit her in the head from a far, hidden distance. Also, even if Kenny wasn't looking, he would have known the difference between a gunshot coming from the woods or right next to him.

[BlankCanvasDJ]

There was a plan to go to Savannah long before they actually went. Clem would have told him that. It's possible that he left before they did, in order to get to Savannah ahead of them. Or maybe he left when the bandits attacked the Inn, knowing that if they survived their next step would probably be to go to Savannah. After that, the delays with the train and Katjaa and Duck's deaths could have given him enough time to get there first.

[Eclipsev]

If you notice outside the marsh house, his vehicle(from episode 2) is parked outside.

Edit: Ever since the group found the vehicle of supplies(campman's) he's been stalking them. He probably was hiding somewhere watching them take it.

Edit2: plus clementine must have told the radio some information.

[Milosuperspesh]

it's bit of a plot hole imo..

the car had no fuel so he would of had to source some which could of taken ages, unless he was with the bandits at some point.

the fact he carried that bowling ball bag around made him dodgy regardless of his intentions.. plus clems parents weren't with him no shocker there...

still i let clem put him down.. toughen her up...lol

[BlankCanvasDJ]

Originally Posted by Milosuperspesh

the car had no fuel so he would of had to source some which could of taken ages, unless he was with the bandits at some point.

The time between the group stealing from his car and the group leaving for Savannah was a week. He could have found fuel by then. Lee and Kenny say that Macon has been picked clean by scavengers. He was probably one of them. Or he could have gotten some from the St. Johns dairy, after the zombies had cleared out.

[lilTomTom]

Originally Posted by Milosuperspesh

it's bit of a plot hole imo..

the car had no fuel so he would of had to source some which could of taken ages, unless he was with the bandits at some point.

the fact he carried that bowling ball bag around made him dodgy regardless of his intentions.. plus clems parents weren't with him no shocker there...

still i let clem put him down.. toughen her up...lol

The car that was hit on the track could have had gas in it?

[slimymeteor]

Originally Posted by Milosuperspesh

it's bit of a plot hole imo..

the car had no fuel so he would of had to source some which could of taken ages, unless he was with the bandits at some point.

Most (if not all) of the bandits were killed at the motor inn raid, and they supposedly had various camps with supplies in the woods, so maybe he came across one of those.

[Milosuperspesh]

Originally Posted by slimymeteor

Most (if not all) of the bandits were killed at the motor inn raid, and they supposedly had various camps with supplies in the woods, so maybe he came across one of those.

yeah pretty much this..

[Cooperal]

What I don't get is how on earth he managed to get in touch with Clem on her walkie-talkie. Is it really that easy to get a frequency?

Difficult to explain how it would be the walkie-talkie belonging to Clems parents. He couldn't have found them without having spoken to Clem first.

His travel to Savannah doesn't seem that much of a mystery. That much. Campman is already in Savannah when he's revealed at the end of Episode 3. The most direct route between the motel and Savannah was probably the one that was blocked by the train at the time. It may have been as simple as finding another way around. Or he went like the wind shortly after the train took off.

Now that I think about it, I think it would've been interesting if he managed to infiltrate the group disguised as a friendly. The scene where he appeared in the flesh was powerful but his overall presence was all too brief. The struggle was getting to Campman, not Campman himself. Sad how so much damage was indirectly done in Savannah, by a man who couldn't even win a fair fight with a man who was still hurting from a recently amputated arm, not to mention weakening from a zombie bite. Clem gave him a conk on the head but HE HAD AN EFFING GUN!

[BlankCanvasDJ]

Originally Posted by Cooperal

What I don't get is how on earth he managed to get in touch with Clem on her walkie-talkie. Is it really that easy to get a frequency?

Difficult to explain how it would be the walkie-talkie belonging to Clems parents. He couldn't have found them without having spoken to Clem first.

It wasn't that walkie talkie, that walkie talkie went with Glenn. Campman had his own walkie (he calls it his during the dialogue and it's a different model from Clem's). He found her frequency after the group stole the supplies from the car. My guess is, he was watching the group, plotting some sort of reprisal, and saw Clem talking on her walkie. Then he just scanned the frequencies until he heard her.

[guiludovice]

Originally Posted by Eclipsev

If you notice outside the marsh house, his vehicle(from episode 2) is parked outside.

Edit: Ever since the group found the vehicle of supplies(campman's) he's been stalking them. He probably was hiding somewhere watching them take it.

Edit2: plus clementine must have told the radio some information.

If you inspect his car in episode 2 Lee says "No fuel, figures" or something like that, how the hell did he get to savannah with that car then?

[The_Cheshire_Cat]

I called that ending.

It was the best one to be sure, I enjoy how Lee had to answer for the things he did. Makes me want to play the whole the over again.

[trd84]

It was over a week before they left. I'm sure he found some gas.

And 2 nights passed from the time the group left to when they were walking into Savannah. So its possible that Campman beat them into Savannah.

And Clem was telling him stuff that happened so he could tell her parents.

[kirby18]

The most logical way was that Clem told him everything, and he heard over the walkie. Thats how he knew kenny died... Im sure Clem told him where his parents were staying and that she would be searching for them no matter what. Howd he get the fuel? noone knows but crazier things have happened in the storyline then a man just finding fuel.

[anonymau5]

I don't know? Maybe he flew?

It doesn't matter. People, stop trying to find plotholes by cutting holes in the series. It doesn't matter how he got there. Lee wouldn't know how he got there, Clementine wouldn't know how he got there. Why should we?

[DreadMagus]

WTF, plot hole?

There's tons of vehicles all over the freaking countryside - many of them with tanks full of fuel ready to be siphoned...

You know, that kind of happens when you have an apocalyptic disaster and people start dying by the thousands....