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View Poll Results: Do you think there will be a second season? If so, who will it take place around?
Yes, I think there will. I think it will continue Clementine's story. 536 76.90%
Yes, I think there will. I think it will feature a new group of survivors. 150 21.52%
No, I do not think there will. 11 1.58%
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Old 11/22/2012, 04:58 am   #301
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A story with a new set of survivors would feel too disconnected, espacially since i don't think they'd be able to invest enough time into any one character as they did with Clementine this whole season, to make me care about them the way i care about her.

Clementine is 9 at the end of this season.. She has matured way beyond her years with the experience she got. It would make for an awesome season to see her grow up alongside new people and challenges.
One idea from me..Go the comic route make a longer season that spans 1-2-3 years where she grows up mentally and physically (so she's even more capable of defending herself). Although i know it's difficult to make bigger time jumps since the situation the world is in doesn't really allow someone to make it many years. They'd have to be in a really secure situation and not travel around, fleeing walkers for that to work, at which point you couldn't really make a game about it.
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Old 11/22/2012, 05:07 am   #302
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I agree with the comment above. I reckon that the two people Clem sees are the new season 2 characters. I think Clem will be in season 2 and possibly Molly as the audience seemed to really like her and she could have easily escaped Savannah. I doubt they will have any other characters in season 2 that were in 1, even Christa and Omid. It's a new story and I think Clem should be the only continuing theme. I don't wanna be with a new protagonist on episode 4 of season 2 and find that my choice to kill Larry means I can't get on a plane or something mad like that.
It will not have more than a few months time jump due to it claiming to be in the same universe as the comics. Im not that fussed about having a sims style creating my own protagonists' looks. They did well with Lee so I trust them to do it again, hopefully with another interesting character.
The trouble is, if they get a new protagonist and it is (however long into the zombie apocalypse episode 5 was) they have already made huge choices by now. They would need to think of someway to let us 'mould' our character again from when the zombies start yet I feel not make us do all those months again.
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Old 11/22/2012, 05:12 am   #303
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Absolutely YES...we need A NEW SEASON....
we need Second,third and more and more,PLEASE.
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Old 11/22/2012, 05:26 am   #304
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A second season would be great, but without these characters. Their stories are done (and let's face it, if Clementime doesn't get onscreen, nothing bad can happen to her. If she gets on screen, we can't guarantee she'll live) and I do not want them to be extended for a sequel.

However, at the same time, I don't want it to be a group that's BRAND new. We already learned all of the stuff of the apocolypse. Three times now(Tv, comics, and this game) I think it should focus on key events from the comics. The best one would be Lilly(comic Lilly, not our Lilly, although that could work too) and after her events at Woodsbury.

Molly would work too.
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Old 11/22/2012, 05:45 am   #305
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A story with a new set of survivors would feel too disconnected, espacially since i don't think they'd be able to invest enough time into any one character as they did with Clementine this whole season, to make me care about them the way i care about her.

Clementine is 9 at the end of this season.. She has matured way beyond her years with the experience she got. It would make for an awesome season to see her grow up alongside new people and challenges.
One idea from me..Go the comic route make a longer season that spans 1-2-3 years where she grows up mentally and physically (so she's even more capable of defending herself). Although i know it's difficult to make bigger time jumps since the situation the world is in doesn't really allow someone to make it many years. They'd have to be in a really secure situation and not travel around, fleeing walkers for that to work, at which point you couldn't really make a game about it.
A story with a new set of survivors would not feel too distant precisely because the first group was not and because so long as Clementine, and aspects of seasons 1, are included you will feel attached to the new 'team'.

If it is not broken do not fix it. Television series make the mistake where an incredibly popular season will make the writers feel empowered to try a new direction. The longest running shows are those which identify the pattern that was successful and repeat it. Telltale's writers seem of pretty high caliber to me so I suspect they will make the smart (and safe!) choice.

Clementine cannot be the protagonist for a number of reasons. If she is the protagonist our decisions to shape and mold her as Lee mean less since our choices as Clementine will now dictate her actions. Secondly, the primary gender of people playing the game (and the majority gender of the authors) are men and gamers enjoy playing males. Thirdly, Clementine was only appealing as a character because we felt a desire to 'protect' her which grew with every episode. Simply put, Clementine is an excellent supporting character but would be a horrible protagonist precisely because she is a child and because we are adults. Honestly it would be less entertaining.

I will admit that Christa and Omid could be the new 'team' but I suspect you will play a new character with your own motivations primarily because even at their height both Christa and Omid are not incredibly interesting characters. Also, if I am right and Clementine is a supporting character again then finding Christa and Omid will act as a good character motivation for a character that otherwise has none. I agree with the above poster that we will see actual or references to season 1 characters that survived (and some that didn't).

The setting will not leave Georgia and will only make cameos to comic events to avoid continuity issues or spoilers. However because Clementine (and Christa/Omid and likely your new character) have decided to avoid cities I suspect that there will be some plot involving how Clementine and her new group acclimate to 'country life' with another group of survivors who are well off. This is where I would take the story and isn't too "cliche" despite it being the predictable natural course.

Clementine will not be the protagonist.
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Old 11/22/2012, 06:32 am   #306
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I would not be surprised that you'll end up playing with Molly as protagonist and upon meeting the Season 1 surviving group you'd already have a basis of familiarity, also Molly seems like the kind of "tough love" person, which could provide for an interesting formula with Clementine as opposed to the "grow to caring" personality of Lee.
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Old 11/22/2012, 06:41 am   #307
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I think It would be useless to make new characters for Season 2, since Christa and Omid are still alive (Unless they died which wouldn't make much sense) so If they're still alive than that's where Season 2 should pick off, Clementine finds Christa and Omid (Possibly Kenny, but he most likely died) what do you guyz think?
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Old 11/22/2012, 06:44 am   #308
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I think we'll see Christa, Omid and Clementine again. Kenny is a possibility. He might have made it.
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Old 11/22/2012, 06:47 am   #309
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there is always people that feel "why keep on going, just end it here".
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Old 11/22/2012, 06:56 am   #310
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When Kenny gets seperated from the group either saving Ben or Christa, Lee and by extension the player never actually see him die in either case.

I would guess that Telltale might have done this to give themselves the option of bringing him back as the protagonist in Season 2.
If they don't go with Kenny then I guess we'll be following Omid, Christa and Clem or quite possibly Molly.
A new group of characters would be a bad idea.
Why try to build a connection with some all-new survivors when we already have such a strong one with the existing characters?

EDIT: Also, if Kenny becomes the main character of Season 2, I don't know if we'll ever see Clementine again. I'd be ok with that, as long as we don't find out that something terrible has happened to her.

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Old 11/22/2012, 07:00 am   #311
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I think we should be a grown up Clementine. Maybe Lee's actions have an effect on Clementne's future. She is more of a ruthless survivor if Lee took wha he needed from the car and killed potential threats, and more compassionate and mercifull if Lee was.

This would be just a little blurb at the beginning of the game and changes some npc reaction dialouge. Nothing big enough to give the writers a headache with huge decision trees. There must also be a default history.
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Old 11/22/2012, 07:20 am   #312
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Made me laugh. That is seriously the only issue that I have with the Walking Dead. They do so much emotionally for the characters but as actual viewers, readers, or players, they just pile on crap and make it hard for us to be hopeful that anything good will ever happen.

In fact, I remember reading somewhere and either Kirkman or someone working on the TV show said something along the lines of, "There is no cure, there is no safe zone, there is no place that has not been touched." And I immediately lost some interest in the series. Because as a viewer, reader, or player, you are hoping that something will go right, that they will somehow find a place where they are safe. But by saying what they did, they say that it is not a matter of IF but a matter of WHEN everyone becomes infected and/or dies. And what fun is that.

I mean at that point the ending is set, the characters all have to die in some way, or people have to do a lot of zombie killing to make the world better again. And even then, everyone would turn when they died, so you would never be safe again.
But the essence of the story is just that, nowhere is safe... Does an author tailor make his story to fit one's wishfull thinking of happy everafter? Not everyone gets to marry their highschool sweetheart, fall in love with Mr. Right, and the cancer patient sometimes just succumbs. Heh, my boss has a saying. "Life's a bitch, and then you die..." There is no hope in a Kirkman, society has gone to hell so make do with what you can, till your face is eaten off at least...

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Old 11/22/2012, 07:22 am   #313
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I think we should be a grown up Clementine. Maybe Lee's actions have an effect on Clementne's future. She is more of a ruthless survivor if Lee took wha he needed from the car and killed potential threats, and more compassionate and mercifull if Lee was.

This would be just a little blurb at the beginning of the game and changes some npc reaction dialouge. Nothing big enough to give the writers a headache with huge decision trees. There must also be a default history.
This idea has been said many a time and while it is nice enough, it won't happen. If Clem is in the next game then her max age will be 10/11.
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Old 11/22/2012, 07:31 am   #314
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well, I've heard a little bird singing something about a season 2 with the episodes 6-10, but i'm not sure.


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Old 11/22/2012, 07:33 am   #315
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I'd actually really like to play as Christa in Season 2.
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Old 11/22/2012, 07:45 am   #316
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The only real reason I want a season two is because of the scene at the end. It didn't have enough closure for me, and to me, that's what is making this story get really big and interesting fast. I didn't really mind they ended the season with that ending scene, but if they didn't want people to want more, they should've just left it at the bang/close door fade to black scenes. Honestly, I would've probably felt better about the game.
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Old 11/22/2012, 07:56 am   #317
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It will be kinda hard to get so close to a character like Lee in TWD again,it just wouldn't be the samebut we may never know.I just want to find out what happened to Christa and Omid,and of course Clem.Honestly,in my opinion Telltale kinda ruined the epilogue.
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Personally, I hope the next season is set sometime after the ending. Clem has been tougher, older and stronger. This way, she can be the main character. We will also see how the ending has affected her, who those were.

I told Christa and Omid to look for her, most likely around that area. I don't think they gave up and moved on. Maybe they both got bitten. I think those two characters in the distance will be two new characters, with bad intentions. Christa and Omid (if they survived) would find Clem somewhere out in the 2nd season. Makes sense :P
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Old 11/22/2012, 08:03 am   #319
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I don't see why she wouldn't... If she wasn't, why would they even have that epilogue? The cliffhanger would be pointless.
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And you know this how?

Telltale has two, possibly three, other huge projects that they've already announced coming down the line. I haven't heard them say anything about putting any of them on hold in order to jump into Season 2 right away.
game developers dont all work on every project in production at the studio, TT games would not be the exception(example- JP production team wasn't involved in twd game production staff) . Also do to the success of this game id be shocked that they dont have a dedicated team to shelling season two out as fast as possible, seeing as this was the most financially successful game in tell tale history. I think a spring/ summer 2013 release is actually a pretty realistic one.. if they use the same tech for the series.
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