Why are there so many negative people on this board saying this game sucks now?

[DatDude]

Originally Posted by Valkama

• The choices you made at the end of episode 4 didn't matter as you still end up with the entire group not to mention most of them completely forgot why they didn't come with you/came with you. Lazy writing.
• Vernon steals the boat which is not only completely unrealistic that his group could do that but it was also completely out of character for the character himself. Bad writing.
• Christa and Omid didn't get any character development at all. They remain boring bland filler characters and the two remaining interesting characters got killed off early on in the episode. You never really go to learn anything about these two characters. Sure Christa is pregnant and acts like a pregnant woman and Omid is a clown and then what?
• More on Ben and Kenny's death. It was poorly written. Ben falls down and says he's fine he just hurt his leg. Oh and there is a spike through his chest? Then of course walkers surround them and Kenny locks himself in the alley with them for no bloody reason, if he was going to mercy kill Ben he could have done it without the sacrifice.
• Gauntlet: oh how I love disappearing zombies.
• Campman was the most pathetic antagonist on the face of the planet. Your telling me that this guy was able to stalk us since the end of episode 2 without getting killed by walkers. He could just casually watch us through the fence without a fear in the world yet he couldn't beat Lee who might have only had one arm.
• Campman's back story makes no sense. He went out in the woods looking for his son because he disappeared while they were out hunting. Why the fuck were they out hunting for fun during the zombie apocalypse. THAT MAKES NO GODDAMN SENSE AT ALL.
• I also love how Clementine just randomly sees her parents then Lee arbitrarily faints for like the fourth time in the episode and then Clementine was somehow able to pull him to wherever they were.
• Also none of the "hard choices" you made during this episode matter at all. Lee loses his arm, oh well he only used his right hand throughout the entire episode either way. Kenny scene doesn't change anything about anything. Leaving your weapons or not doesn't matter cause they still get knocked away. Doesn't matter if you kill campman or not cause clem does and doesn't care one way or another and it doesn't matter whether you are killed by her or become a zombie. I'm not going to say the the choices in previous episodes didn't matter but the choices in this episode meant nothing at all. At least give me some flavor text. This is just another example of really poor writing on TellTale's part.

In short, bad writing and plot holes everywhere. There weren't even fun little adventure game puzzles to keep me occupied.

Meh. It featured an excellent emotional payoff between Lee and clem that I think many will remember for a long time.

[Fezzan]

Originally Posted by darknessofheart

A lot of people wanted Campman to be this incredibly horrible and malicious villain, whereas Walking Dead is not always about pure evil vs good. There is no such thing in this reality and Campman really made for a great reflection into that reality. People wanted a pure evil man who wanted Clem for some horrible purpose; that would've been lame in my opinion though. Campman was great because he made us question what we did and was quite disturbing himself; the simplicity of his vendetta made it realistic and great.

I agree, but his reason for taking Clem. was stupid IMO.

As for the OP just ignore them, this has been my best experience this year and I'm sure for a lot of others as well, there mostly just trolls (some of them might actually not like the game, which is fine but a lot of them are just doing it for their idea of funnsies)

[Doctanian]

It doesn't suck. It's an amazing game. It's just the "campman" storyline fucked up what would've been one of the greatest video game stories ever told. They should've just stuck with the concept of survival, finding Clem's parents, and bonding/power struggles with people. I wanted to like episode 5 and I wanted to "like" campman as a villain, but they fell flat and I'm not going to suck up to TTG just because I adore them as a developer. They fucked, in my honest opinion. And I've been calling them out because I don't want season 2 to go downhill because of sloppy writing.

I give the overall game an 8/10.

Gary Whitta did a good job with episode 4 until the end with that bullshit cliffhanger. Episode 5 was just terrible. Only redeeming thing was Clem and Lee's final moments together.

[Atarius]

Why so much hate for the Chapman plot? I thought he was interesting and a decent twist. Wondering why he took his son out on a hunt? Probably something Rick and Carl would do if you think about it, hell Lee was teaching Clem how to shoot etc... except Campman got his son killed.

He stalked the survivors because he lost his son, his wife, his daughter and that was centered around his failure. Failure to secure anything including their food and supplies. He has nothing left to lose so why not take what's precious to those he blames? It's not like there's anything else to do in the apocalyptic zombie wastes.

As far as "none of the hard choices making a difference". It's fatalistic, you are to believe they will work and things will be okay or at least better. Then they get worse, much worse. It's realistic, and tragic. Tragedy doesn't end with a happy ending and everything neatly wrapped up, I think consumers of entertainment are far to used to happy endings.

To me Lee is an Oedipus character, he's doomed from the start and when you first started the game you should have realized things were not going to go well. As people continually died and futility of most if not all of their plans set in, it became increasingly obvious. The early predictions that Lee wouldn't survive became more and more viable. Rather than having him give up or check himself out, he cut of his arm and kept going. Until the end, despite the certainty of failure.

That's a story that tries to say something. Rather than say, Lee picks up some Zombrex and they find the CDC and it's full of said Zombrex and him and Clem live out their days there till he passes away of old age in his sleep and she shoots him so he doesn't come back.

[mkane24]

Originally Posted by Atarius

Why so much hate for the Campman plot? I thought he was interesting and a decent twist. Wondering why he took his son out on a hunt? Probably something Rick and Carl would do if you think about it, hell Lee was teaching Clem how to shoot etc... except Campman got his son killed.

He stalked the survivors because he lost his son, his wife, his daughter and that was centered around his failure. Failure to secure anything including their food and supplies. He has nothing left to lose so why not take what's precious to those he blames? It's not like there's anything else to do in the apocalyptic zombie wastes.

As far as "none of the hard choices making a difference". It's fatalistic, you are to believe they will work and things will be okay or at least better. Then they get worse, much worse. It's realistic, and tragic. Tragedy doesn't end with a happy ending and everything neatly wrapped up, I think consumers of entertainment are far to used to happy endings.

To me Lee is an Oedipus character, he's doomed from the start and when you first started the game you should have realized things were not going to go well. As people continually died and futility of most if not all of their plans set in, it became increasingly obvious. The early predictions that Lee wouldn't survive became more and more viable. Rather than having him give up or check himself out, he cut of his arm and kept going. Until the end, despite the certainty of failure.

That's a story that tries to say something. Rather than say, Lee picks up some Zombrex and they find the CDC and it's full of said Zombrex and him and Clem live out their days there till he passes away of old age in his sleep and she shoots him so he doesn't come back.

yeah but doesn't chapman come after you even if you don't take the supplies?

[Gman5852]

Originally Posted by mkane24

yeah but doesn't chapman come after you even if you don't take the supplies?

Your group took the supplies no matter what you say, so that's why he went off for revenge. He wasn't exactly after Lee and Clementime, but he knows what Lee has done in the game and tries to take Clementime away from him.

[Jennifer]

Yeah, in the situation where you didn't steal from the car, he's mostly after the group and especially after Clementine, rather than Lee. In the game where Lee didn't take the supplies, it's also possible to get him to calm down and no longer want to kill Lee (by telling him that you've been bitten).