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Old 11/24/2012, 05:17 am   #1
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Default Lee in Season 2?

If you let Clementine leave Lee then all you see is Lee passing out (Turning?) so that can mean anything in the next season.

Also if you choose to make Clementine Shoot Lee then if you listen closely after Clementine makes the shot and the screen goes black you can actually hear Lee breathing in (Zombie Lee or regular Lee?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrGur-Qli9Y&feature=plcp *Clip of the Ending*

And (Maybe im wrong on this one) if you look at where Clementine's aiming its at Lee but when the trigger is pulled and the shoot is fired it looks like it goes aside and misses Lee (looking from the angle).

Right now this could mean anything or nothing but i want too know what you guys think about this.

(Sorry for my bad English)

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Old 11/24/2012, 05:38 am   #2
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If you let Clementine leave Lee then all you see is Lee passing out (Turning?) so that can mean anything in the next season.

Also if you choose to make Clementine Shoot Lee then if you listen closely after Clementine makes the shot and the screen goes black you can actually hear Lee breathing in (Zombie Lee or regular Lee?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrGur-Qli9Y&feature=plcp *Clip of the Ending*

And (Maybe im wrong on this one) if you look at where Clementine's aiming its at Lee but when the trigger is pulled and the shoot is fired it looks like it goes aside and misses Lee (looking from the angle).

Right now this could mean anything or nothing but i want too know what you guys think about this.

(Sorry for my bad English)
I'm hoping for a retcon. That ending was terrible. TTG, just come out and say you fucked up on episode 5.
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Old 11/24/2012, 06:15 am   #3
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I think the teaser for Season 2 will show that Lee is gone from the jewelery store, depending on what choices you choosed. If you handcuffed yourself, you will see the handcuff hanging there, or broken if you told Clem to shoot you. THEN BLACK SCREEN!

The Walking Dead Season 2... - Coming out 2015 summer.
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Old 11/24/2012, 06:22 am   #4
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2015? :O

I do have to say I agree with the shot and breathing as I can see that's true, but Lee is gone. Get over it. She didn't shoot the cuffs because they were on the left and she turned right.
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Old 11/24/2012, 06:29 am   #5
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It looks more like she shoots right next to Lee's head (Like on the movies when someone is gonna shoot someone and they shoot Right next to the head). And i think she did it intentionally, maybe she couldn't go trough with it?

Maybe we'll se Zombiefied Lee in season 2?
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Old 11/24/2012, 07:30 am   #6
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Lee won't come back for the same reason that people seem so annoyed about their choices not changing the outcome - for season 2 to happen, I think Telltale need us all to be at the same starting point, whether it follows characters from this season or introduces a whole new cast.
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Old 11/24/2012, 07:34 am   #7
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Also if you choose to make Clementine Shoot Lee then if you listen closely after Clementine makes the shot and the screen goes black you can actually hear Lee breathing in (Zombie Lee or regular Lee?)
That's just his last breath. Don't read too much into it.
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Old 11/24/2012, 07:40 am   #8
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Really?

I can understand denial of Lee's death between episode 4 and 5, if you've never read the comics.

But here?

He was on the floor, a minute away from being a walker, or with led in his face.

He is dead, no way around it.
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Old 11/24/2012, 07:47 am   #9
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That's just his last breath. Don't read too much into it.
Well he can't take his last breath after he's been shot in the head can he? And you don't get that breather scene if you choose to leave him.
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Old 11/24/2012, 07:48 am   #10
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Really?

I can understand denial of Lee's death between episode 4 and 5, if you've never read the comics.

But here?

He was on the floor, a minute away from being a walker, or with led in his face.

He is dead, no way around it.
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Old 11/24/2012, 07:54 am   #11
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I'm hoping for a retcon. That ending was terrible. TTG, just come out and say you fucked up on episode 5.
How on earth was it a bad ending? Because Lee died? That's what makes it so great - the fact that no matter how much you do to try and rescue Clem (which given the odds stacked against Lee to begin with, is a feat in itself given his state towards the end of the game) you die? I think it had to end that way. This story is about Lee teaching Clem and helping her survive in this new world. eventually, there needs to come a point where you let go of the child's hand.

The Walking Dead has never been known for happy endings, and I hope it stays that way.
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Old 11/24/2012, 08:32 am   #12
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It was a great ending! The Walking Dead's purpose is not to be happy, it's to be powerful. This is definitely clear evidence that Telltale captured Kirkman's comics beautifully and accurately.
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Old 11/24/2012, 08:37 am   #13
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as much as i would love for Lee to be miraculously alive and cured and looking after Clem again, any suggestion at such is based upon desperate hope that a deeply upsetting ending can be undone... and not anything remotely plausible. Bobby Ewing in the whole shower/dreaming thing would make more sense.
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Old 11/24/2012, 08:43 am   #14
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How on earth was it a bad ending? Because Lee died? That's what makes it so great - the fact that no matter how much you do to try and rescue Clem (which given the odds stacked against Lee to begin with, is a feat in itself given his state towards the end of the game) you die? I think it had to end that way. This story is about Lee teaching Clem and helping her survive in this new world. eventually, there needs to come a point where you let go of the child's hand.

The Walking Dead has never been known for happy endings, and I hope it stays that way.

No, it's not because Lee died. So that entire rant was for nothing, lol.
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Old 11/24/2012, 08:53 am   #15
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No, it's not because Lee died. So that entire rant was for nothing, lol.
Can you explain why you disliked the ending instead of just saying "So that entire rant was for nothing, lol."?
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Old 11/24/2012, 09:09 am   #16
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Can you explain why you disliked the ending instead of just saying "So that entire rant was for nothing, lol."?
Why should I? Apparently people here will try to rip you to pieces if you say the ending was anything but a masterpiece. And try to explain away any of TTG's wrongdoing. Damn, they're not fucking Shakespeare.

No closure. Poor writing.

Those are my two biggest complaints.
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Old 11/24/2012, 09:29 am   #17
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Why should I? Apparently people here will try to rip you to pieces if you say the ending was anything but a masterpiece. And try to explain away any of TTG's wrongdoing. Damn, they're not fucking Shakespeare.

No closure. Poor writing.

Those are my two biggest complaints.
It's funny when you claim Shakespeare's writing is a master piece when the ending to Romeo and Juliet was absolutely horrid. They meet for about a day, fall in love, and kill themselves because they think the other is dead, again, only about a day or so after meeting each other. I know it was supposed to be a tragedy, but the ending was so forced and horribly written it can't be taken seriously.

What type of closure did you want? A end to the zombie apocalypse? Absolutely can't happen. What we did get, was a end to the Clementine and Lee story line, which was done amazingly. We resolved almost all plot points between the two: Clementine's parents, how Clementine can defend herself, her growth as a character from episode one to five, Lee deciding that she doesn't need him any more, etc. It couldn't have happened any other way than with Lee dying, entrusting Clementine to safety.

While poor writing is essentially an opinion, I'd argue the writing in that last scene was done beautifully. Of course that's still my opinion.
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Old 11/24/2012, 09:33 am   #18
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You are all paranoid, as usual. Lee won´t come back because there is no multiple branches storylines. There is only one ending, Lee´s dead.
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Old 11/24/2012, 09:35 am   #19
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It's funny when you claim Shakespeare's writing is a master piece when the ending to Romeo and Juliet was absolutely horrid. They meet for about a day, fall in love, and kill themselves because they think the other is dead, again, only about a day or so after meeting each other. I know it was supposed to be a tragedy, but the ending was so forced and horribly written it can't be taken seriously.

What type of closure did you want? A end to the zombie apocalypse? Absolutely can't happen. What we did get, was a end to the Clementine and Lee story line, which was done amazingly. We resolved almost all plot points between the two: Clementine's parents, how Clementine can defend herself, her growth as a character from episode one to five, Lee deciding that she doesn't need him any more, etc. It couldn't have happened any other way than with Lee dying, entrusting Clementine to safety.

While poor writing is essentially an opinion, I'd argue the writing in that last scene was done beautifully. Of course that's still my opinion.
Romeo and Juliet is satire, lol. It's supposed to be that stupid.

No. No end to the ZA. Not even a "Lee lives" moment. Just more closure than what we got with Clem in the ending. The last scene between Clem and Lee? Yeah, it was. It was masterfully written. My problem was the rest of the episode was terribly written.
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Old 11/24/2012, 09:36 am   #20
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I do not believe that Lee will be back alive but more like a Zombie in Season 2

Just to be clear to everyone that thinks this is one "Maybe the bullet scratched her cheek" kinda Post
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