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Old 11/24/2012, 08:55 pm   #121
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Lee got shot when Clementine put the gun to his head and pulled the trigger. Just because you didn't see Lee's brains splatter across the back of the wall, doesn't mean he died. They showed Clementine's face for dramatic effect.

So are you saying that unless you see something happen, it hasn't happened?

Just because the main character hasn't died in the combined Walking Dead media, doesn't mean it will never happen. That just doesn't make sense.
I'm saying exactly what I said....... show me the proof. This game isn't shielded by censors saying it's too violent. Why would they not show Lee dead? Because he's not.

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The main character can't die because the main character hasn't been killed because the main character can't die because the main character hasn't been killed because...is basically what you're saying. You see the cycle, right?
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What does this even mean? "Pout my 40 on the ground"?
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Old 11/24/2012, 09:05 pm   #122
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I'm saying exactly what I said....... show me the proof. This game isn't shielded by censors saying it's too violent. Why would they not show Lee dead? Because he's not.
Because it's more dramatic this way. You don't have to have everything spelled out for you. It is so much better to have the scene end with the gunshot, and not midshot of Lee with his head blown apart (granted, I don't know how the scene ends if you tell Clementine to leave you, but I will find out on my second playthrough).

Do you think Duck is still alive, because we didn't see the bullet blow his little head into gory chunks? Is that something you want to see, just for 'proof'?

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You're saying, the reason the main character can't be killed off is because the main character hasn't been killed off. That's what you're saying, you realise? It creates a vicious cycle whereby the main character can never die if your logic is followed.

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Old 11/24/2012, 10:38 pm   #123
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If you refuse to believe that Lee died, from either being left chained to a radiator and not being shown with Clem at the end or that you don't see some sort of slow-mo of the bullet entering his brain, then you're being a bit too optimistic. Lee's very appearance before being shot, (His skin color is far out of whack) the fact that he can't even stand, and hearing his final breath after the gun-shot should clue you in he's got no time left.
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Old 11/24/2012, 10:44 pm   #124
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Lee and Carly are dead. Sorry.
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Old 11/24/2012, 10:51 pm   #125
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Just leave it guys, he/she isn't going to agree.
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Old 11/24/2012, 11:32 pm   #126
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It's the walking dead. Everybody dies in the end! Kirkman said in an interview that even Rick will die in the comic.

The strenght of the TWD is that danger lurks around every corner.
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Old 11/24/2012, 11:47 pm   #127
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Also........ It's a season finally. Not a game finally. Meaning you want people to be guessing what is next.

What better way to do that, than to make you think you (Lee) are dead?
Good thinking! I think they could think like that! They want everybody to be sad over Lee's dead and they also are excited of who the 2 persons up on the hill is! What I think is that you going to play as a sick Lee whho tries to find Clem and the two persons on the hill is Lee and someone else?! So the ending in Season 1 is like the ending of season 2 but you find out what happend kinda!
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Old 11/24/2012, 11:51 pm   #128
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Lee IS dead this ain't a soap opera
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Old 11/25/2012, 12:08 am   #129
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Hmmm but he's not shown as dead.
Basic leftover taste on Telltale's side.

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So how do you know he's dead?
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Old 11/25/2012, 05:03 am   #130
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Nunyabiznes

This game isn't made for the likes of you, i suggest you try something more suited to your personality such as ......







Oh and..
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Old 11/25/2012, 05:40 am   #131
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I dont mean to knock you opinion or discourage you but can we stop this already? Lee is dead, that was the point of such a dramatic ending. Dont you think it would take away from its effectiveness if Lee just showed up in season two saying , "Hey, guess I just needed some rest" or "thanks for not shooting me Clem"?

It'd also be impossible since you can slowly see Lee degrading throught the episode. You could argue that its from a loss of blood from getting his arm cut off (even though its pretty clear he waited too long), but if you didnt, then he'd turn no matter what. Nobody's immune.
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Old 11/25/2012, 06:09 am   #132
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I know lost as I watched it faithfully, they were dead from the start as the writers and the creators said wasn't true for seasons. But that was the whole point of the final episode. (in case you didnt know it... there is only one way to get to purgatory; death. And that didnt happen at some random point on the island.... it happened in the crash at the beginning... Thus the point of the finally.)

As for the the point of this thread. Show me the proof ... Where did Lee get shot? Paste your screen shot here. Otherwise NONE of the main characters have died. Not in the comics, series, or even the game now.

I said it before. I will not pour my 40 on the ground for someone not seen dead.
You watched it yet you don't understand any of it. I'm sorry but you're getting pretty ridicilous, no offense. People on the island died, so how could they die on the island? Cause they were still alive on the island. When the people died there, they waited for eachother in purgatory. The flash sideways in the last season. They even said so in the last episode. Purgatory was the alternate world where the people on the plane didn't crash, the real world was on the island. You were being spoon fed this.
That the creators said it wasn't purgatory was true, that they used it for the last season was lame though and the last season in general felt lame to me.

If you don't want to take what the creator says as true, then the problem lies with you. And I'm done discussing this. But this clearly isn't for you and neither was lost. Maybe Pokémon or something could be. Simple plot where no one can die.
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Old 11/25/2012, 06:28 am   #133
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The reasoning is sound and I wish it were true but I think you may be in denial about Lee's death, I know I was but either way if you cut his arm off or leave it on he will die from the infection or blood loss, there is also the fact that Clem is a really good shot and was peeking to make sure when she fired the gun, I know on my first playthrough I chopped my arm and got her to shoot me because by the time you end up in that place Lee looks awful his eyes are going yellow and his skin is so pale I think at that point you can give up hope for Lee and just hope Clem makes it out of Savannah.

But yeah maybe I am wrong, I'm just saying that I don't think Lee has a chance to return and that it will be a new protagonist.
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Old 11/25/2012, 06:58 am   #134
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If Lee miraculously recovers to star in season two I don't even know if I'd buy it. That would be such a cop out.
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Old 11/25/2012, 07:07 am   #135
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Lee is dead

He is handcuffed to a radiator trying to get some bodies to gobble

Get over it
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Old 11/25/2012, 10:43 am   #136
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If he Does not cut his arm off he will be 100% dead or walker, however if the bloodless plot line is true and he survives I highly doubt season 2 will be starring a one armed hero! Also if some people chose to not chop his arm off they cant possibly pick up with Lee if a percentage of people chose to let him have two arms and therefore know he is dead?
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Old 11/25/2012, 01:09 pm   #137
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This thread is amazing.
If I were one of TWD writers I would be partying right now.
People getting so attached to a character they won't even admit his death.
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Old 11/25/2012, 01:11 pm   #138
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I have a feeling that the ending whoudnt of had such a big impact if Lee still lives.

He's dead.. and thats agood thing, cause it means its depressing and a good story. Otherwise if Lee is alive in season 2 then that means we'll have a protagonist who cannot die ... canonicly. And that whoudnt be fun anymore.
what about rick
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Old 11/25/2012, 01:38 pm   #139
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This thread is amazing.
If I were one of TWD writers I would be partying right now.
People getting so attached to a character they won't even admit his death.
Exactly! That's just amazing... That's why I think this thread is interesting, that's funny to see how people are now attached to the characters. That's about genius from TTG.
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Old 11/25/2012, 01:42 pm   #140
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